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some_noob
Profile Joined August 2010
160 Posts
August 12 2010 14:23 GMT
#161
Pressured maybe, forced no.
Pking
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden142 Posts
August 12 2010 14:24 GMT
#162
On August 12 2010 22:56 Cedstick wrote:
Yes, but not just for marketing image. Set a good example for those in the community, mostly the younger players. If we're going to have such static, unhealthy hobbies and even careers like this, we need to stay in shape and not fuck over half the population. It's the same idea as people cutting shit like McDonalds out of their life to keep America thin or whatever.


I agree with this. I'd be rather turned off by the community if every starcraft pro looked unhealthy and sickly.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 12 2010 14:27 GMT
#163
On August 11 2010 06:05 eLiE wrote:
lol, as i read this post, i thought of seeing the qxc interview during day[9]'s count down party

Everything about that was painful to watch. From the acne, the odd camera position, the lighting, the way he carried himself? Kid needs some swagger, some confidence.

The problem is that in other sports, the act of practicing keeps you in shape, while practicing in e-sports is far from healthy. Whoever said the 1 hour of exercise for every 3 hours of gaming/laddering, that's a great way to take a break, stay healthy, and keep your mind on target. Not to mention gamer culture promotes an absolutely horrific diet of soda, energy drinks, and junk food.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 12 2010 14:29 GMT
#164
On August 11 2010 06:47 figq wrote:
If it turns into this, I'm not even gonna watch it anymore. + Show Spoiler +
It's enough disappointment to read Bisu's thoughts in the recent Ro16 ceremony revolved mostly around fashion, instead of the game (and then of course, he doesn't even perform too well). This is supposed to be an intellectual sport; I really hope the fashion superficiality has not plagued science yet, but it would be the ultimate parody if it ever does. It's absurd, because cultural preferences vary a lot, and are also inevitably manipulated. People with strong aesthetic norms should realize that none of these are universally applicable anyway. What they consider ugly in another culture is considered beautiful, or is just ignored.

This isn't true; there are standards of beauty that apply across the human race because we've evolved to prefer those traits. For men, wide hips and large breasts (showing fertility), for women, things like height, status, wealth are found attractive.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 12 2010 14:31 GMT
#165
On August 12 2010 12:36 Buddhist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2010 12:28 MythicalMage wrote:
Yes. Absolutely. The leagues should pressure the teams, and the teams should pressure the players, assuming we're going by a system similar to the Koreans. Regardless, pro gaming should be a career, and should be treated as such. Professionalism is what's going to bring e-sports to the mainstream.

Professionalism isn't the same as good looks. Looks are actually completely irrelevant. The only problem is that the majority of spectators care about looks more than things that are relevant, so it's in the players best interests to look good.

Dressing nice, maintaining hygiene and taking care of your body is professionalism though. No one is asking them to become male models, but, come on, wash your face, exfoliate, get a decent hair cut, and do some exercise from time to time instead of laddering and sleeping.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 12 2010 14:33 GMT
#166
On August 12 2010 16:03 Laforge wrote:
9 out of ten soccer players are extremely ugly and when they are interviewed they have their soccer clothes on. So why do girl love them? (anywhere, but the states). Because guys look up to them.
Let face it, if the cool boy in the yard was the gamer and not the soccer/football player, then the girls would dig him. Girls love men with power, and how do men get power? When other men admire they abilities.
So all we have to do is to grow the e-sport, not f….. changes clothes.

Girls love them because they have lots of money and are in great shape. They are pretty much hard-wired to love them.
carwashguy
Profile Joined June 2009
United States175 Posts
August 12 2010 14:36 GMT
#167
This post received over ten thousand views... wtf... gj op.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 14:58:27
August 12 2010 14:57 GMT
#168
On August 12 2010 23:33 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2010 16:03 Laforge wrote:
9 out of ten soccer players are extremely ugly and when they are interviewed they have their soccer clothes on. So why do girl love them? (anywhere, but the states). Because guys look up to them.
Let face it, if the cool boy in the yard was the gamer and not the soccer/football player, then the girls would dig him. Girls love men with power, and how do men get power? When other men admire they abilities.
So all we have to do is to grow the e-sport, not f….. changes clothes.

Girls love them because they have lots of money and are in great shape. They are pretty much hard-wired to love them.

Sure, there's that whole athletic thing, but Laforge has got it right. They're attracted to influence, and a man with that kind of power over others is definitely the epitome of such.

Anyway, let's try to stay away from girl talk and stay on-topic: ugly has nothing to do with it. STAY IN SHAPE, GUYS.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
stoneric
Profile Joined April 2010
United States69 Posts
August 12 2010 15:11 GMT
#169
I do believe that in order for Esports to gain that popularity we all want to see we need a few good looking poster-child eligible professional gamers.

Now, its not to say they all need to look like Calvin Klein underwear models, but some simple grooming, maybe a haircut or two and some nice fitting clothes would go a long way for a professional appearance.

Especially on major events that will be broadcast on television, do us proud and look professional!
sup?
EppE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States221 Posts
August 12 2010 15:40 GMT
#170
On August 11 2010 04:23 Hider wrote:
It def. would not hurt the esports scene if there was a progamer who was really good looking, as it may draw some more interest to the scene.



This is actually a good point and if e-Sports wants to be big in the West it needs to be considered. Look at Anna Kournikova. Not a great tennis player but popular due to looks. People don't want to watch ugly people on TV. I think "fit" progammers are going to be required if this is going to work in the West. You don't have to be super models but you can't be grungy.
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
August 12 2010 15:42 GMT
#171
We just need a few cool, good looking superstar players. Preferably english / korean speaking.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 12 2010 15:43 GMT
#172
Better looks => more fangirls. I'd look as good as possible for a match if I were progamer.
:)
GhostBusters
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
August 12 2010 15:44 GMT
#173
On August 12 2010 23:27 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 06:05 eLiE wrote:
lol, as i read this post, i thought of seeing the qxc interview during day[9]'s count down party

Everything about that was painful to watch. From the acne, the odd camera position, the lighting, the way he carried himself? Kid needs some swagger, some confidence.

The problem is that in other sports, the act of practicing keeps you in shape, while practicing in e-sports is far from healthy. Whoever said the 1 hour of exercise for every 3 hours of gaming/laddering, that's a great way to take a break, stay healthy, and keep your mind on target. Not to mention gamer culture promotes an absolutely horrific diet of soda, energy drinks, and junk food.

Thats a really good idea, i usually try to do something like that, and i only drink water/diet green tea b/c of how much i'm gaming.
Yut, bellybuttons.
REM.ca
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada354 Posts
August 12 2010 16:42 GMT
#174
If our goal is for esports to become mass popular then ABSOLUTELY there needs to be poster boys and poster girls for the sport.

The average joe looking at a Starcraft event or watching an interview with a progamer will be totally turned off by esports if he is lead to believe that only ugly nerds play.

Classical social expectations and desires. "I don't want to be considered like a nerd so I won't bother getting interested."

Sure, WE don't care, WE're just interested in the skill level of the player. But we're ALREADY convinced that it's a great game and there is not enough of us to make esports as huge as the big sports.
I have a palm permanently stuck to my face yo.
YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
August 12 2010 16:47 GMT
#175
We the Starcraft community need to spread propaganda correlating playing starcraft with increased penis size.
I'm very good at making carriers.
Newtybar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States19 Posts
August 12 2010 16:51 GMT
#176
The target audience is not female, so does it matter too much?
Walk to Your Own Beat
EppE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States221 Posts
August 12 2010 17:14 GMT
#177
On August 13 2010 01:51 Newtybar wrote:
The target audience is not female, so does it matter too much?


It's not just about females and if you don't understand why I don't know what to say.
sNes.
Profile Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 17:33:45
August 12 2010 17:27 GMT
#178
On August 11 2010 05:17 Azile wrote:
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On August 11 2010 04:52 shawster wrote:
btw, grubby's wife


No lie, this man knows the score.

[image loading]

More on topic I think this is something that any player aiming to go pro should consider. Sponsors/organizers shouldn't have to pressure you to look presentable, you should already be doing it for yourself so you actually look professional.

Classic example, watch the TLO vs MaDFroG showmatch, pretend you are Intel and you are scouting out players to join your team, pretend you don't know the results of the match. Which player would you take? FroG wins by a large margin, he presents himself far more professionally than TLO does. He was perfectly cool/calm in front of an audience and camera and very well groomed and dressed, while TLO kind of look like he just woke up and you could tell he was very aware of the cameras at all times and was doing his best to ignore them.

Now this is not to say TLO won't gain that kind of presentation, this was his first LAN appearance after all while FroG has been around a long time.. this kind of thing is not new to him.



ummm no tehy didnt..i saw alot of close ups of TLO and TLO looked perfectly fine to me..TLO looked a bit nervous but not so much..they were times where he even smirked and smiled when he won..i think people over analyze and look into this to much..cameras werent ignoring him..thats just stupid to even think..over anaylzing

most people who have these thoughts are themselves not as confident as they think they are and probally have underlying self esteem issues..thats why they generally are disgusted at ugly people is because they see themselves in that person..its a Subconscious thing..a person who is completly confident and strong with themselves doesnt see this within people and can accept anyone..again im not saying go to LANS smelling and not showering or at least cutting your hair or something..but be yourself..dont be pressured to impress some guys..women see confidence not only looks..a guy can have the best looks with the best body but with no confidence chicks will see that and be like..yo this guy is a loser..and yes women i believe are attracted more to power and confidence its an instinct females have to be attracted to the pack leader..power=status and confidence..women feel a man with these qualities will keep them safe..
Heroes get remembered but Legends never die
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
August 12 2010 17:33 GMT
#179
Players should be forced to wear a tuxedo, top hat and a monocle and grow a handlebars moustache.
Dr.Smoke
Profile Joined July 2010
United States64 Posts
August 12 2010 17:37 GMT
#180
WORST


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OP FAIL

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