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J7S
Profile Joined March 2009
Brazil179 Posts
July 21 2010 16:16 GMT
#1
I was looking at the page to download the client that will be activated on july 27th. There I can choose my region, that is Latin America, and choose the language I want the game to be. However there's only spanish and portuguese to choose.

I'm stuck with spanish and portuguese? I want the game in its original language, come on! So I sent an email to blizzard asking for options to solve this issue. This is their answer:

The game is locked to specific geographical regions. Based on region, is how you get the language for the download. If you want a US NA copy you would need to buy a boxed copy and have it shipped.



Darin O.
Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment
www.blizzard.com/support


That is simply wonderful. I would never play this game in other language besides english.

Not sure what to do then.
"Mein Führer, I can walk!" - Dr. Strangelove
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
July 21 2010 16:19 GMT
#2
Can't you just create a new account where you specify a North American country as your location?
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
July 21 2010 16:19 GMT
#3
I'll tell you what to do. Buy a boxed copy and have it shipped. Like the e-mail says.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
July 21 2010 16:19 GMT
#4
didnt they say you can dl different clients/language packs?

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PunkSkeleton
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland226 Posts
July 21 2010 16:19 GMT
#5
OMG... This would be just too much for me. I wouldn't buy the game then.
Mortis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
July 21 2010 16:21 GMT
#6
I think his concern is maybe latency issues due to different regions?
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
July 21 2010 16:21 GMT
#7
Can't you just buy the game in example from UK or USA?
The region lock is determined from your Bnet account so you can just buy an english version of the game and play it in Latin America.
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:22:16
July 21 2010 16:21 GMT
#8
On July 22 2010 01:19 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
didnt they say you can dl different clients/language packs?



ill post this again, i want a response on one of these forums regarding this eventually... Where is everyone getting this information? like sources etc... as the last i heard is that it is locked by region and the only packs you can download are those available for your region. So if your region only has Spanish, Portuguese that is all you can get...
J7S
Profile Joined March 2009
Brazil179 Posts
July 21 2010 16:34 GMT
#9
I asked him if i could download a North American version of the game and activate it in my region. He answered me that: I can't because the download is based on region.

Maybe I am stuck and will have to buy from USA or UK and wait a few weeks, more taxes, to have the game I want. I really can't believe this is how they're doing business.

Can't you just create a new account where you specify a North American country as your location?


I can, but as Blizzard is always pointing out, I won't have "the best online experience ever". I'm not sure how's the starcraft 2 community in Latin America will be, but for now, I just want to play listening to "Rock and Roll" and not "Samba, Bossa Nova, Carnaval amigos"

On July 22 2010 01:19 PunkSkeleton wrote:
OMG... This would be just too much for me. I wouldn't buy the game then.


I'm not sure if you're being ironic, but have you ever played Starcraft in other language? Is pure crap. And more, everything SCI-FI in movies, games, series is in english. A marine speaking portuguese simply do not exist, it's a lie.
"Mein Führer, I can walk!" - Dr. Strangelove
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
July 21 2010 16:43 GMT
#10
On July 22 2010 01:21 KiF1rE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:19 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
didnt they say you can dl different clients/language packs?



ill post this again, i want a response on one of these forums regarding this eventually... Where is everyone getting this information? like sources etc... as the last i heard is that it is locked by region and the only packs you can download are those available for your region. So if your region only has Spanish, Portuguese that is all you can get...



does the predownload require anything special? couldnt you just make a us acc,dl the client, buy the game,register on your real acc and then use the preload client?


also it seems like atleast us eu guys can dl in pretty much all languages then:

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=26137474239&sid=5010

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Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 21 2010 16:45 GMT
#11
The game clients are region-locked - yes. Also, each region has a limited rage of client languages available to them.

HOWEVER, during the beta it was possible to install two clients, one for the region you want to play in, and one with the language you want to use, combine their data files, and use the language you want in the region you want. It is not yet confirmed that this will be possible with the full version (we'll know in a few days), but it worked just fine for the beta, and I don't suspect a large enough change to the client on launch to make this too difficult.

ALSO, Blizzard HAS said that while cross region-support will not be available at launch they ARE working on it. So, it may be worth it to get the NA client, and wait for cross region, or get the LA client, and mesh it with a NA download... I will be posting instructions for this as soon as I figure it out after launch.

References:
Using English Language in Asia Region:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=135866
Cross-Region Support:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25399603041&postId=254795749937#254795749937
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171934229&sid=3000&pageNo=4#69
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170780404&postId=254795951424#254795951424
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:51:55
July 21 2010 16:50 GMT
#12
In the beta you could also change clients to connect to whatever region you want. It's the same with WoW so I'm sure it's the same with SC2 come release. Just DL an english client from wherever and change the gateway to the server your account is on.

That is if you can't find another solution. I don't think combining data files or whatever the poster above mentions is a better solution though
J7S
Profile Joined March 2009
Brazil179 Posts
July 21 2010 16:56 GMT
#13
I'll wait and see. I probably won't be playing SC2 at launch.

Thanks.
"Mein Führer, I can walk!" - Dr. Strangelove
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 21 2010 17:20 GMT
#14
On July 22 2010 01:56 J7S wrote:
I'll wait and see. I probably won't be playing SC2 at launch.

Thanks.


This is probably the best idea. Within a few days of launch, we should have a good idea of exactly how things actually work instead of just speculation on them.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 21 2010 17:21 GMT
#15
On July 22 2010 01:50 Numy wrote:
In the beta you could also change clients to connect to whatever region you want. It's the same with WoW so I'm sure it's the same with SC2 come release. Just DL an english client from wherever and change the gateway to the server your account is on.

That is if you can't find another solution. I don't think combining data files or whatever the poster above mentions is a better solution though

Do you know of a way to do this in SC2 Beta without borrowing data files from the client for the region you want to connect to?
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
July 21 2010 17:23 GMT
#16
On July 22 2010 01:19 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
didnt they say you can dl different clients/language packs?


Don't hold your breath. They said they'd do that for WoW and they still haven't.
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Dance.jhu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
July 21 2010 17:25 GMT
#17
the way activision is handling this is bullshit.
It is what it is...
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
July 21 2010 17:29 GMT
#18
english is the international language so it would be bullshit if it did not apply here.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 21 2010 17:37 GMT
#19
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/12518-starcraft-2-to-be-multilingual
Xenomerath Wrote:
Greetings,
Thank you for your email. After you purchase Starcraft II and register game on battle.net you will be able to download game in all available languages. Polish game will unlock english client as well.

Best regards,

Xenomerath
Account Administration Team
Blizzard Entertainment Europe
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 21 2010 17:46 GMT
#20
On July 22 2010 02:37 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/12518-starcraft-2-to-be-multilingual
Show nested quote +
Xenomerath Wrote:
Greetings,
Thank you for your email. After you purchase Starcraft II and register game on battle.net you will be able to download game in all available languages. Polish game will unlock english client as well.

Best regards,

Xenomerath
Account Administration Team
Blizzard Entertainment Europe

This is true. The Polish game will unlock the English Client, because they're both available languages in the EU region, however, English does not seem to be available in the Latin America region.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 21 2010 17:48 GMT
#21
Hm, that is an absolutely bizarre restriction.

Especially as I was under the impression that South and North America share servers anyway, so if you were to register a North American account, you'd be playing with the exact same player base/servers o_O
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
J7S
Profile Joined March 2009
Brazil179 Posts
July 21 2010 17:59 GMT
#22
On July 22 2010 02:46 Girlscoutcookie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 02:37 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/12518-starcraft-2-to-be-multilingual
Xenomerath Wrote:
Greetings,
Thank you for your email. After you purchase Starcraft II and register game on battle.net you will be able to download game in all available languages. Polish game will unlock english client as well.

Best regards,

Xenomerath
Account Administration Team
Blizzard Entertainment Europe

This is true. The Polish game will unlock the English Client, because they're both available languages in the EU region, however, English does not seem to be available in the Latin America region.


That's what I thought when I read this message. That's why I asked Blizzard. There's two different informations regarding that. The guy in the forums says it will be possible, and the guy in support tells it wont.
"Mein Führer, I can walk!" - Dr. Strangelove
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 21 2010 18:03 GMT
#23
On July 22 2010 02:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Hm, that is an absolutely bizarre restriction.

Especially as I was under the impression that South and North America share servers anyway, so if you were to register a North American account, you'd be playing with the exact same player base/servers o_O

Do you have a Blizzard quote about the shared servers? If this is true, then there's no reason not to just buy a NA client and play in the NA region. If not, I imagine after launch we can do some traceroutes and find out, though.

Also, here's some good posts by Blizzard about region locking at launch (and for the foreseeable future afterwords. They've promised cross-region play, but also assured us they haven't even started on it yet.)

http://beta-us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/13531371?page=1#6
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25969522553&postId=262247222496#262247222496
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
dogmeatstew
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada574 Posts
July 21 2010 18:04 GMT
#24
This just seems a little bit ridiculous and retarded from blizzard -- its even a little bit arrogant to say "you live is South America so obviously you speak Spanish or Portuguese". Honestly that's just straight up untrue.

As Jinro said above --bizarre, I don't see any reason why languages would be locked based on region, if I moved to China for a job I would still speak English, as far as I'm aware my native language doesn't change based on my current region.
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 21 2010 18:11 GMT
#25
I strongly suspect it's a licensing and support issue. Since accounts are tied to specific regions, account support for your account is handled by that region. The US Blizzard Account Support team for example only speaks English and Spanish. If they allowed any SC2 language, they would need to provide support for accounts using those localizations. If they added the English client to the Latin America region, they'd also need to add English support personnel. Note this is all speculation.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
J7S
Profile Joined March 2009
Brazil179 Posts
July 21 2010 18:35 GMT
#26
Actually is damn good speculation. Although I think they should have support for all languages.
"Mein Führer, I can walk!" - Dr. Strangelove
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 18:39:13
July 21 2010 18:37 GMT
#27
On July 22 2010 02:21 Girlscoutcookie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:50 Numy wrote:
In the beta you could also change clients to connect to whatever region you want. It's the same with WoW so I'm sure it's the same with SC2 come release. Just DL an english client from wherever and change the gateway to the server your account is on.

That is if you can't find another solution. I don't think combining data files or whatever the poster above mentions is a better solution though

Do you know of a way to do this in SC2 Beta without borrowing data files from the client for the region you want to connect to?


Yes it's quite a simple process but it involves changing a game file. Here it is:

+ Show Spoiler +
1. Download the .MPQ editor here
2. Open \StarCraft II Beta\Mods\Core.SC2Mod\Base.sc2data with the editor.
3. Extract the text file “ProductLocale.txt” edit it and change its contents from “enUS” to “enGB” or vice versa.
4. Go back to the editor, select add file and add the modified “ProductLocale.txt” file. (Remember to add a new rule for text files) Add it as a compressed file. (Not as the default, an encrypted file)

You can also then save more than 1 ProductLocale with different regions for quick changing.


I'm not sure if this is technically "legal" but I'm sure others can fill you in
theBlues
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
El Salvador638 Posts
July 21 2010 18:56 GMT
#28
I am in El Salvador, and I was able to download the english client with a small warning about latencies.
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eLFootman
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile58 Posts
July 21 2010 19:14 GMT
#29
I'm in Chile and I'm able to choose from any region, then close the latency warning popup
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 21 2010 19:25 GMT
#30
As seen in the other thread, where digital downloads were available pre-release but needed to be activated and installed on the day of, couldn't you just download the client you wanted and wait for your key if you pre-ordered from somewhere etc? As many people say it's battle.net related, at most there would be a realmlist you need to change to your desired destination.

example

living anywhere but US/Canada with intention to play on an Asian server.

Download US client, wait until the 27th. Install and use your CD key given from wherever you are in the world, and play?

If it doesn't work then I'm sure the next step would be to try and locate a realmlist file, or gateway whichever you want to call it. As with beta when it came back for phase two, EU got the patch before US did and to download it we just changed our path to the EU realm, downloaded the patch and switched back. Maybe it was possible to play on the EU realm as well if we had the appropriate BNET account, not sure this is all just speculation.
DarkwindHK
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong343 Posts
July 22 2010 02:36 GMT
#31
I guess Hong Kong is the only place in the world where you actually have TWO versions of starcraft.

Either you buy English to play in SEA server or you buy Chinese to play in Taiwan server.

Imagine you and your friend wait for 10 years just to buy and play together.

"Hell! Its about time!!"
Have you installed your game yet? Let's play online now.

After 30 minutes

Where the FXXX are you? I still cannot find you on Bnet?

I guess we are in different servers.....

WTF!!

Nice way to trick your returning customer and a sure way to piss of new customers as well.
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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 02:57:34
July 22 2010 02:57 GMT
#32
On July 22 2010 02:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Hm, that is an absolutely bizarre restriction.

Especially as I was under the impression that South and North America share servers anyway, so if you were to register a North American account, you'd be playing with the exact same player base/servers o_O


actually they are separated. and thats one of the reasons why south america has the subscription fee as well =/

note the SA server didnt exist in beta.
nbMifu
Profile Joined January 2010
Brazil170 Posts
July 25 2010 15:27 GMT
#33
On July 22 2010 02:20 Girlscoutcookie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:56 J7S wrote:
I'll wait and see. I probably won't be playing SC2 at launch.

Thanks.


This is probably the best idea. Within a few days of launch, we should have a good idea of exactly how things actually work instead of just speculation on them.


Yes, I am also Brazilian, and I'm facing the same dilemma as J7S. We should probably wait somedays until people figure out if it is possible to change the UI languages like it was in the beta client.

What I expect to happen is that we Latin Amercans will end up buying the LA version, and be able to change some files to have an English UI.

Also, I read a blue post that said that language packs will be available later. But it may take some time... http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=22739813925&postId=227373976011&sid=3000#11
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Two
Profile Joined May 2010
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 16:26:21
July 25 2010 16:25 GMT
#34
Get one shipped from USA.

edit: ya? or will that not solve any problem~
LeCastor
Profile Joined July 2010
France234 Posts
July 25 2010 18:25 GMT
#35
Maybe you could simple copy MPQ's of the english version to your LA client without affecting the connected server.

Other thing, get à NA client and translate IP adress of battle.net server to LA.
RA
Profile Joined October 2008
Latvia791 Posts
July 25 2010 18:30 GMT
#36
Sorry but this is bullshit, if I live in Latvia and I would get only Russian (obviously not Latvian) language I would fucking throw that out for the price I payed.

I want ONLY English, I play and use English everywhere.

This is a very stupid policy.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 25 2010 18:31 GMT
#37
On July 22 2010 01:50 Numy wrote:
In the beta you could also change clients to connect to whatever region you want. It's the same with WoW so I'm sure it's the same with SC2 come release. Just DL an english client from wherever and change the gateway to the server your account is on.

That is if you can't find another solution. I don't think combining data files or whatever the poster above mentions is a better solution though


This is what I assumed, just find the realmlist and edit it to its appropriate gateway.
theBlues
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
El Salvador638 Posts
July 26 2010 05:36 GMT
#38
I hope the community comes up with something to fix this issue, I am really dissapointed , first no lan and now this...
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TobZero
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany493 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 12:02:11
July 26 2010 12:01 GMT
#39
i didn have the problem here in germany.
bought the CE from amazon.de - got it shipped on saturday - activated sc2 on my bnet account(key from the german CE box).
-> manage games -> sc2 -> client download -> en_GB
= no problem

strange that you cant do the same.
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FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
July 26 2010 12:17 GMT
#40
On July 22 2010 01:34 J7S wrote:
[...]
I'm not sure if you're being ironic, but have you ever played Starcraft in other language? Is pure crap. And more, everything SCI-FI in movies, games, series is in english. A marine speaking portuguese simply do not exist, it's a lie.


Sry but the German version of SC2 (and BW for that matter) isn't crap at all, it's very well done. And I am a person who is opposed to dubbing and always tries to watch US movies in the original version simply because I want it how it was meant to be. But those aren't "real" marines/zealots/banshees anyway, they are all animations dubbed with voices, and I can't see why the portugese voices should necessarily be inferior to the US ones.

And your latter statement is simply silly. You have trouble with a terran soldier speaking portugese, but not with an extraterrestrial species speaking english?

BUT maybe the portugese version is really crap, and in this case i sympathize and think Blizzard should make the english client more easily available to you and others with the same problem. If they don't, you can still hope that language packs will come from the community.
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
July 26 2010 13:12 GMT
#41
I live in Belgium, imagine I would have to play in Dutch or even worse, in French.
I simlply wouldn't play, but normally I'll be able to play English

and n/o to other language, but this game is designed in English, so the only decent language to play it in is English.
Melt
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland281 Posts
July 26 2010 13:18 GMT
#42
And whats about the Hotkeys?

Played all Beta long with english hotkeys and now i have to play with crappy german ones?
DCV_Whiplash
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil14 Posts
July 26 2010 13:19 GMT
#43
On July 26 2010 22:18 Melt wrote:
And whats about the Hotkeys?

Played all Beta long with english hotkeys and now i have to play with crappy german ones?


I read somewhere they will keep the same hotkeys for every client.
No quote today
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
July 26 2010 13:29 GMT
#44
On July 26 2010 22:19 DCV_Whiplash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2010 22:18 Melt wrote:
And whats about the Hotkeys?

Played all Beta long with english hotkeys and now i have to play with crappy german ones?


I read somewhere they will keep the same hotkeys for every client.


well mayB for a german client they changes keys around for german QWERTZ keyboard?
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
July 26 2010 13:32 GMT
#45
i had no problem to play the english game during beta time and i'm sure i'll go on with the retail...tonight
I guess that if you don't have english in your available downloads at battle.net you're screwed ):
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MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
July 26 2010 13:34 GMT
#46
On July 22 2010 01:19 PunkSkeleton wrote:
OMG... This would be just too much for me. I wouldn't buy the game then.


no problems for polish
all europeans can choose english as their language on battlenet account, then download the correct installer
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Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 26 2010 13:56 GMT
#47
If you're in Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, or Southeast Asia, and you wish to play in English... buy a copy appropriate for your region, and simply download the appropriate English client for your region:
Europe [enGB] -
https://eu.battle.net/account/management/sc2/pre-download.html?gameRegion=EU&lang=en-GB&platform=win
North America [enUS] -
https://us.battle.net/account/management/sc2/pre-download.html?gameRegion=NA&lang=en-US&platform=win
Australia/New Zealand/Southeast Asia [enSG] -
https://sea.battle.net/account/management/sc2/pre-download.html?gameRegion=SE&lang=en-SG&platform=win

If you're in a region without a native English client, Latin America, Russia, Korea, or Taiwan, and you wish to play in English... no one knows for sure exactly what to do. Most likely a solution will be found (quickly) to use another region's English client in your region. I, Girlscoutcookie and not blue or any official source, would recommend downloading the enUS release, and the release for your region. You may not need both (hopefully we can get you playing with only the enUS copy), but it's possible you may need a valid client for your region to activate. No one knows yet. If you're not in a hurry, just wait a day. The first thing I'll be doing before I start playing is figuring out a solution to this question.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 26 2010 16:05 GMT
#48
On July 22 2010 01:34 J7S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:19 PunkSkeleton wrote:
OMG... This would be just too much for me. I wouldn't buy the game then.


I'm not sure if you're being ironic, but have you ever played Starcraft in other language? Is pure crap.



it's starcraft, in another language.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
praetor.at
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Austria92 Posts
July 26 2010 16:08 GMT
#49
i never was as glad that 'we' (the europeans) have the United Kingdom.
But seriously, this policy is just sad.
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
July 26 2010 16:09 GMT
#50
Shoulda bought the US version online and returned your latin copy same server anyways
MC's strength: confidence weakness: over confidence
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
July 26 2010 16:11 GMT
#51
Are the eng_GB and eng_US diferent in any way? Except being locked to EU / US servers?
zvz is imba
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 16:20:06
July 26 2010 16:14 GMT
#52
On July 22 2010 02:23 scintilliaSD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:19 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
didnt they say you can dl different clients/language packs?


Don't hold your breath. They said they'd do that for WoW and they still haven't.


It's false. I had french version of wow and I downloaded an official patch to play in english.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
July 26 2010 16:19 GMT
#53
On July 27 2010 01:11 WeSt wrote:
Are the eng_GB and eng_US diferent in any way? Except being locked to EU / US servers?


Only difference I could see would be how words would be spelled. Armory (US) Armoury (GB) and so on. The US doesn't like adding the u into most words like honor and honour.
Brood War forever!
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
July 26 2010 16:19 GMT
#54
Maybe if you download the enUS version and just changed the address the client connects to? I thought there was a file with the server address, this could be totally wrong tho.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
July 26 2010 21:19 GMT
#55
I'm having the same worries and i'm undecided about what should I do, i really don't want a game with spanish dialogue the tranlations for games are often poor and the voice acting is usually awful.

but anyway I just wanted to say that if you change your country in you b.net account inormation then you'll be able to download different client versions, in fact i'm in the middle of downloading the en_US client. so you could just do that and figure out later the payment method you'll use.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 26 2010 21:45 GMT
#56
On July 27 2010 01:19 Clow wrote:
Maybe if you download the enUS version and just changed the address the client connects to? I thought there was a file with the server address, this could be totally wrong tho.


There was for WoW and Beta, however I'm looking through my client right now and cannot find the realmlist.stf that was in the beta client under support. Could probably just create one, however I don't know the address for the US server 100%.
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 26 2010 21:46 GMT
#57
I'm currently in the process of looking into this. The tricks we used in Beta don't work. This currently isn't as simple as simply changing your gateway. Doing this gives an error about needing an authorized language pack to play with this language. I am however, still exploring more technical options.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 26 2010 21:48 GMT
#58
Which one are you trying to connect to and with which client??
Chaotic_flare
Profile Joined March 2008
United States42 Posts
July 26 2010 21:50 GMT
#59
that's ridiculous.
these people should not have to go out of their way to play a game in the original language or be denied to play in a language that is obviously available but 'region locked'.
but i guess its what they have to do...
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 26 2010 21:56 GMT
#60
On July 27 2010 06:48 SONE wrote:
Which one are you trying to connect to and with which client??

I'm currently attempting to connect to TW region using the enGB client.

Merging the locale files (as in my earlier step by step) and changing the ProductLocale.txt in Base.SC2Data both result in a successful connection, but an error about needing an authorized language pack to play in that language.

I am currently looking into merging the enGB data into the zhTW datafiles.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 22:16:57
July 26 2010 22:05 GMT
#61
Ahh. Do you think the way you are doing it would work for KR to US server? We won't know for sure since well, US isn't up but KR should have an English Pack no? Can't seem to find your step by step on how you got it to connect.
MurdeR
Profile Joined May 2004
Argentina89 Posts
July 26 2010 22:18 GMT
#62
Well, at least in Argentina, everybody is going to play in US servers, Spanish translation is so ugly and latency was not an issue in beta, so it wouldn't be now.

Gogo US untill cross-realm is enabled.

-1 for Blizzard ant they are now like -7/10 for me.
Comunidad Argentina de SC2: www.latingamers.net
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 22:38:55
July 26 2010 22:18 GMT
#63
to be honest, being forced to play in Latin American servers will make South America's SC2 community to grow stronger. we will have the option to change to US later, but I really think they should force us to play in LA for a time. the only bad thing is to hear everything in portuguese! it is awful! lol

At least for Brazil, there isn't a strong scene here and we need something like that. hangarnet is the only thing I know, but its only a forum...

EDIT:
I am signed as brazilian in my battle.net account and I still had the option to download the USA client. just had to click "change region". I will update here when finished to guarantee everything is fine. woot, I'm downloading it! 6.9 GB, but can't buy the digital sate yet.

lol
what I just said about the LA community is going to hell... if we have the option, we will use the USA client, obviously. we love america! =D
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
MurdeR
Profile Joined May 2004
Argentina89 Posts
July 26 2010 22:41 GMT
#64
LA will be only-noob-server, since all experienced players are going to play in US. Thanks Blizz for doing wrong things.. its to hard for u to understand that we WANT to play in English?
Comunidad Argentina de SC2: www.latingamers.net
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 26 2010 22:49 GMT
#65
Success!... sorta...

I've successfully localized a portion of my Chinese (TW) client into English. I'm currently looking into how to localize the rest of it, and then eventually an easy way to accomplish this. Check back later for more updates!
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 26 2010 22:51 GMT
#66
On July 27 2010 07:49 Girlscoutcookie wrote:
Success!... sorta...

I've successfully localized a portion of my Chinese (TW) client into English. I'm currently looking into how to localize the rest of it, and then eventually an easy way to accomplish this. Check back later for more updates!



PM'd you so I don't have to keep posting here as much if I don't come across anything major.
Ihsahn
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile132 Posts
July 26 2010 22:52 GMT
#67
I dont think many people in LatinAmerica are understanding the way this works.
For LA we have a specific server, hosted in Brazil(I think). The main issue here is that if you buy on most of the stores today(at least here in Chile), you have a cd key that works on those LA servers. For those servers, you can only download a spanish o portuguese version of the game. I think most of us want to play the game in its original language, but blizz isnt giving that option. If you choose to download the US(english) client you can only play with US cdkeys( which can be bought in LA in some stores).
If you bought the 30 dolar version(6months), it will only work on LA servers.
That said, I think it will be rather easy to transform a englishUS client into a one that works in LA, but it will need some work in the inner core files.(like on the beta)
nadaesimposibleniunawea
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
July 26 2010 23:00 GMT
#68
On July 27 2010 07:52 Ihsahn wrote:
I dont think many people in LatinAmerica are understanding the way this works.
For LA we have a specific server, hosted in Brazil(I think). The main issue here is that if you buy on most of the stores today(at least here in Chile), you have a cd key that works on those LA servers. For those servers, you can only download a spanish o portuguese version of the game. I think most of us want to play the game in its original language, but blizz isnt giving that option. If you choose to download the US(english) client you can only play with US cdkeys( which can be bought in LA in some stores).
If you bought the 30 dolar version(6months), it will only work on LA servers.
That said, I think it will be rather easy to transform a englishUS client into a one that works in LA, but it will need some work in the inner core files.(like on the beta)


oh god. I'm downloading the english version
thanks for explaining this. changing to BR version now...
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 23:16:26
July 26 2010 23:14 GMT
#69
If the LA server is hosted in Brazil then i will buy the US version because US has much better latency for us in Colombia than Brazil.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
July 26 2010 23:19 GMT
#70
I played in the LA WoW server for some time, and it's latency was way higher than the US servers. I'm buying the NA version of SC2, and so are my friends.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
Ihsahn
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile132 Posts
July 26 2010 23:26 GMT
#71
I had no problems playing WoW on US and LA servers, and no problems on the Sc2 beta, but I favored LA because of local competition..
nadaesimposibleniunawea
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3984 Posts
July 26 2010 23:31 GMT
#72
Lol im glad we're not a big country, i'd be horrified if the game was brought out in my language. Really a shame for you LA guys, that sucks. What if you moved over there with your parents and you only speak english? You need to pay extra for shipping? That's ridiculous.
Anteloptics
Profile Joined April 2010
United States31 Posts
July 26 2010 23:33 GMT
#73
I'd have to agree with whoever it was that speculated that the lack of an English language pack is probably due to Blizzard not currently maintaining any English-speaking support offices for the LA region. Although, I still think it's completely retarded of them to not offer any way at all to get an English client in the region.

Blizzard continues its trend of demolishing the last scraps of faith I had in the company. At least I'll have something else to complain about with my European and Asian friends in vent while we're not playing each other.

tl;dr : QQ.
Coil
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina119 Posts
July 26 2010 23:36 GMT
#74
On July 27 2010 07:52 Ihsahn wrote:
I dont think many people in LatinAmerica are understanding the way this works.
For LA we have a specific server, hosted in Brazil(I think). The main issue here is that if you buy on most of the stores today(at least here in Chile), you have a cd key that works on those LA servers. For those servers, you can only download a spanish o portuguese version of the game. I think most of us want to play the game in its original language, but blizz isnt giving that option. If you choose to download the US(english) client you can only play with US cdkeys( which can be bought in LA in some stores).
If you bought the 30 dolar version(6months), it will only work on LA servers.
That said, I think it will be rather easy to transform a englishUS client into a one that works in LA, but it will need some work in the inner core files.(like on the beta)


Source? Where does it say the LA servers are in Brazil? I'm betting they are on Dallas like the WoW servers...
BTW: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136769 vote!
<@Failure> I GOT RIZZIED <@Failure> NO ORDINARY GURL KAE <@Failure> SHE RIZZIE
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-26 23:52:04
July 26 2010 23:49 GMT
#75
if it's true that the LA servers are in brazil then for me the best choice is to connect to the US servers (I'm in Mexico) and if it's also true that licence keys are also region locked then that means i must NOT buy the localized version and I should trick b.net into thinking i'm in the US so i can buy the digital en_US version.

and this is the best choice for anyone in Mexico. it's obvious that they didn't think this through, why the obsession with locking regions? it isn't practical for anyone, ping issues would be dealt automatically by common sense by the gamers themselves so that's not the reason. what is the real reason you ask? the same reason google forces localized results in searches: that you can place adds more accurately.

edit: and ultimately this will mean that i won't be able to play with irl friends who didn't have this knowledge and bought the localized version. the LA comunity will be split.
Ihsahn
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile132 Posts
July 26 2010 23:51 GMT
#76
On July 27 2010 08:36 Coil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2010 07:52 Ihsahn wrote:
I dont think many people in LatinAmerica are understanding the way this works.
For LA we have a specific server, hosted in Brazil(I think). The main issue here is that if you buy on most of the stores today(at least here in Chile), you have a cd key that works on those LA servers. For those servers, you can only download a spanish o portuguese version of the game. I think most of us want to play the game in its original language, but blizz isnt giving that option. If you choose to download the US(english) client you can only play with US cdkeys( which can be bought in LA in some stores).
If you bought the 30 dolar version(6months), it will only work on LA servers.
That said, I think it will be rather easy to transform a englishUS client into a one that works in LA, but it will need some work in the inner core files.(like on the beta)


Source? Where does it say the LA servers are in Brazil? I'm betting they are on Dallas like the WoW servers...
BTW: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136769 vote!

Im not gona lie, I dont really remember..I think it was on blizz forums, but not sure, so take that as a rumor(actually I also thought that servers where in US, but after reading that my mind changed )
nadaesimposibleniunawea
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 03:53:23
July 27 2010 03:31 GMT
#77
Digital Sales start 07/27/2010 12:00 PM CDT

can we only buy it in 12 hours?! WTF??

edit: lol 12 pm is in like 1 hour...
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
July 27 2010 03:41 GMT
#78
Anybody else getting this error?

Couldn't decompress Ogg data. Se esse problema persistir, entre em contato com o Suporte Técnico da Blizzard. (InstallerDecompressOgg)


Note I'm installing the BR version.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Lord_of_Chaos
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden372 Posts
July 27 2010 04:12 GMT
#79
On July 27 2010 08:33 Anteloptics wrote:
I'd have to agree with whoever it was that speculated that the lack of an English language pack is probably due to Blizzard not currently maintaining any English-speaking support offices for the LA region. Although, I still think it's completely retarded of them to not offer any way at all to get an English client in the region.

Not how it works for us Swedes with most things. There are rarely localised versions (thank god) and rarely any Swedish support. We have to call to UK or US to get support in the only other language we understand: English. I don't see what would stop Blizz from doing the same for LA region. If you want English support: Call the US or send an email.

Most likely they just tried to be nice and make localised versions and were blind to the problems. Just like no chat channels, no cross realm play, the ladder system and the real ID debacle. They try to make something good and lose complete track of the actual problems with it.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
July 27 2010 08:07 GMT
#80
I still can't buy the digital sale. wth?
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
July 27 2010 14:13 GMT
#81
On July 22 2010 01:19 TBO wrote:
Can't you just create a new account where you specify a North American country as your location?




then he wouldnt be able to play in the LA server if he wants to play with his friends.

that happens to me at least...
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
Bidouleroux
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada24 Posts
July 27 2010 15:54 GMT
#82
I feel for you guys. Here in Quebec, retail outlets have to sell the French version too if they want to sell the English version (because Quebec = 80% native French speakers vs. only 10% native English speakers). But of course, the French version plays on the EU server. Jim Raynor may well sound funny with a Parisian accent - I first played the original game in French when I was younger - but Starcraft is supposed to be serious business. Also, Tricia Helfer = better than any French tramp (although Glynnis Talken fit the role better : Helfer's voice is too high for a zerg queen imo).
Jaedong
LeGo_MaN
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile49 Posts
July 27 2010 23:49 GMT
#83
maan, now I'm having seconds thoughts on what version to buy... I think most of my friends are going to buy the LA version, but the things is... I want the game in English

Please keep us posted for any useful information, hope Blizz does something about it quickly -.-
DCV_Whiplash
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil14 Posts
July 28 2010 00:29 GMT
#84
do you know what the BEST part is???
they changed our hotkeys!!!! Select Larva is bound to L !!!!
And no, i'm not using the left handed option
/wrists

c'mon blizzard.. we already got this crap portuguese version, and now this =/
I should've bought the US version somehow
No quote today
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
July 28 2010 07:15 GMT
#85
On July 27 2010 07:49 Girlscoutcookie wrote:
Success!... sorta...

I've successfully localized a portion of my Chinese (TW) client into English. I'm currently looking into how to localize the rest of it, and then eventually an easy way to accomplish this. Check back later for more updates!


holy shit, good news... i have the korean version, and while i don't think the localisation is TOO bad i still want the thing in my native tongue. keep us posted!
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
July 28 2010 07:52 GMT
#86
On July 27 2010 01:05 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:34 J7S wrote:
On July 22 2010 01:19 PunkSkeleton wrote:
OMG... This would be just too much for me. I wouldn't buy the game then.


I'm not sure if you're being ironic, but have you ever played Starcraft in other language? Is pure crap.



it's starcraft, in another language.


For the same reason that many people would prefer not to watch anime in anything other than Japanese, he wants to play Starcraft in its native language. Dubbing is seldom done at the time of the media's initial production and seldom done with much direct coaching from the original creative staff, and even more seldom done with any finesse. In short, 95% of dubs are unbearable. Final Fantasy X. "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! *gasp* HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!" ...It still brings me to shudders, that single awkward 30-second clip of a nasally-voiced white guy laughing at approximately one laugh-per-second during what was supposed to be one of the most tender moments in the game. It was utterly ridiculous and I'm really sad that I didn't have the chance to play that game with subtitles rather than dubbed voices.

I will say this, however: Blizzard may not be doing this because they want to. In some countries or regions it's possible that complex agreements between retailers and trade unions (for example, the screen actors' guild is such a union) prevent Blizzard from selling the product in that region using anything except the voice actors native to or hired in that region. It's very likely that this is all related to legal, contractual bullshit which does not have anything to do with you, the customer, but Jimmy Jerkoff the voice actor won't have things any other way. Try and imagine the things I'm describing on a global scale with numerous different countries and voice actors. Kel'thuzad's voice lines were re-recorded for Wrath of the Lich King in WoW; the originals used in Naxxramas during pre-Wrath were vastly, vastly superior, and I am led to believe this was done because the original voice actor was violating some manner of trade union agreement by secretly working with Blizzard at a time when he was contractually forbidden from doing so, and this became known. "Minions, soldiers, servants of the cold dark! Obey the call of Kel'thuzad!"

Good luck getting the enUS client, I wouldn't want to play a game as grand as SC2 with all the damn nice dialogue replaced with Spanish dubs from some cast of no-namers, and all the art assets rewritten into another language, possibly by a 3rd party unaffiliated with Blizzard. Just another case of Blizzard telling you what you want, unfortunately.

All of the above is speculation on my part.
What is a dickfour?
Tupan
Profile Joined December 2004
Brazil319 Posts
July 28 2010 10:48 GMT
#87
I've already posted this in other threads, but it seems this is the correct one.

For those of you buying a SC2 license to play on Latin American servers, you will NOT be able to use an english client to play the game.

The option seems to be buying an american or european license but then you will NOT be able to play on Latin American servers (=lag).

Please tell me if I'm wrong because I'd love to be wrong this time.
Believe me: translated SC2 voices and unit names are ridiculous.
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 28 2010 13:06 GMT
#88
Check out this thread for progress on my scripts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139082

I could use some help from the LA community.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
DCV_Whiplash
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil14 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 13:42:57
July 28 2010 13:42 GMT
#89
On July 27 2010 07:49 Girlscoutcookie wrote:
Success!... sorta...

I've successfully localized a portion of my Chinese (TW) client into English. I'm currently looking into how to localize the rest of it, and then eventually an easy way to accomplish this. Check back later for more updates!


Any progress on this?
I've given up trying to connect the NA client on LA servers, already replaced Base.SC2Data files, but then it starts patching and gives an file not found error at 71%.

My hope lies on you!

EDIT: Beat me lol
No quote today
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 17:59:22
July 31 2010 17:57 GMT
#90
Is there anywhere we can whine to blizzard about this? Apparently EVERYONE in LA agrees that this decision is completely retarded.
"Oh you guys be from South America, so you want to play the game in Spanish/Portuguese!"
Battle.net forums don't seem that serious, and emailing blizzard gives you crap replies.
You guys have no idea how bad portuguese sounding units and hotkeys is, especially the cinematics...
LeGo_MaN
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 23:58:05
August 01 2010 09:13 GMT
#91
On August 01 2010 02:57 Z-BosoN wrote:
Is there anywhere we can whine to blizzard about this? Apparently EVERYONE in LA agrees that this decision is completely retarded.
"Oh you guys be from South America, so you want to play the game in Spanish/Portuguese!"
Battle.net forums don't seem that serious, and emailing blizzard gives you crap replies.
You guys have no idea how bad portuguese sounding units and hotkeys is, especially the cinematics...


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/106470842?page=10

that's the biggest thread that I've seen in blizz forums, but still no official answer. Apart from making a fuzz, I don't know what else we can do :/


http://eu.blizzard.com/support/index.xml?locale=en_GB&gameId=13&rootCategoryId=8640

Here are the policies of sc2 accounts and such, and the thing most similiar thing to what we are doing would be the Exploitation and Client Server Manipulation Policy , but it doesn't mention anything about changing files.

Can anybody else check the rest of the policies, to see if I didn't see something?
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