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Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
July 16 2010 03:26 GMT
#1
Since I'm taking summer classes now I have a lot of free time, and of course, rather than go outside I choose to sit in front of my computer. With the end of the beta fast approaching I'm sure we all want to get a lot of play time in before the second wait prior to release. However, I'm finding my mental stamina for training, if it can be called that, is a lot weaker than I'd like. Sure, I'll plunk down in front of my monitor and say, "OK, time to rock this shit", but after about 6 to 10 games, particularly after a string of losses I feel either discouraged or my willpower weakening. Of course, massing mindlessly without analysis is not very useful, so I'm including that in my playtime. Also I'm obviously taking breaks to eat as well. I'm sure many TLers struggle with their focus and endurance while playing; what do you all do when trying to play a bunch? Pretend you're a progamer? Take replay/relaxation breaks? Ultimately (most of us) are playing this game for fun, but this being a site about competitive Starcraft I imagine many of you find yourselves in the same situation.

Poll: How many games do you usually play at a time?

3-5 (164)
 
51%

6-10 (70)
 
22%

1-2 (43)
 
13%

11-20 (29)
 
9%

21-40 (10)
 
3%

40+ (8)
 
2%

324 total votes

Your vote: How many games do you usually play at a time?

(Vote): 1-2
(Vote): 3-5
(Vote): 6-10
(Vote): 11-20
(Vote): 21-40
(Vote): 40+

TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 16 2010 03:28 GMT
#2
21-40. I like to game for a while and then take a good break. Especially since my work schedule is off the wall.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Winks
Profile Joined July 2010
United States78 Posts
July 16 2010 03:28 GMT
#3
6-10 if I'm playing ranked... much more if I'm messing around hopping between unranked matches and custom games.
Have no fear or apprehension of the afterlife; the same force that gave you life and sustained it these years will provide for you again when your time for death has come.
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
July 16 2010 03:29 GMT
#4
The most I can stand is usually 4 or 5 hours at a time, regardless of the number of games played. After that 4 hour mark, I can feel my play rapidly deteriorate.

I think that like anything, the amount of time you can play at your best is something that comes with a lot of practice. Even though it's just sitting in front of a screen, your brain is still running quickly and making tough decisions for hours at a time.
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v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 03:30:28
July 16 2010 03:30 GMT
#5
3-5 games then usually something comes up or I take a break, that is during the week. Works out pretty well, on the weekends or weeks where I have extra time, possibly 6-15 games per session.
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
July 16 2010 03:30 GMT
#6
I can only play a lot of games if I'm winning. I tend to take a break whenever 2-3 losses accumulate.
sinn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States132 Posts
July 16 2010 03:30 GMT
#7
i'm gonna be honest i've played over 12 hours straight of other games before lol. sc2 takes too much mental processing though i usually get tired after 6-7
Postman
Profile Joined July 2010
United States269 Posts
July 16 2010 03:31 GMT
#8
Usually I'll play around 5 games, then take a break after one of them is particularly draining or after a string of losses. Play some lower stress 2v2s, custom maps, or just grab a snack and watch something on Hulu.

I think part of long sessions meant for getting better should include just practicing certain openings/builds in a custom game either against AI or a training buddy without worrying about winning league matches which (in my experience) make you lose steam faster.
Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
July 16 2010 03:35 GMT
#9
6-10, take a 30 minute to an hour break, then another 6-10. Basically like that throughout the whole day.
Kaasflipje
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands198 Posts
July 16 2010 03:37 GMT
#10
6-10, and I watch most of my replays.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
July 16 2010 03:47 GMT
#11
Self control is a very very important skill to have when doing anything competetive. If you cannot sit there and play over 30 games because you're losing, thats something you really have to work on if you want to be the best. With that said, you dont have to put in all that much time to be a good player, but to be the best, yeah it has to be done, and you have to be able to control yourself.
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Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
July 16 2010 03:49 GMT
#12
I can play the entire day (ie - from 9am through till past midnight, stopping for short food and toilet breaks), providing that I'm not just grinding randoms on a ladder but playing with practice partners or people I know. That definitely helps my gaming stamina
Day9 Made Me Do It
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
July 16 2010 03:50 GMT
#13
I play about 3-5 before I take a break, but I take a short (10 minute) break and then continue playing. I usually play for many hours straight or not at all, depends what I'm doing on the given day.
i-bonjwa
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
July 16 2010 03:51 GMT
#14
i can play ranked games in 5-10 game blocks then i need to take a break for 30 min to an hour doing customs or something away from the computer.
mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
July 16 2010 03:54 GMT
#15
Play 5 games. Analyze the losses. Let it simmer for about a day. Make a decision if my builds need further tweaking. Then do 5 more games. Rinse and repeat.

at least thats how i roll with my sc2. Currently 13:6 with 2 of those losses not only being disconnects but also being placements
I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
July 16 2010 04:07 GMT
#16
3-5 games at a time. I then usually take a break for a bit and reflect on the games I played.
Pokemonxoxo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States217 Posts
July 16 2010 04:09 GMT
#17
1-2 games if its 1v1. I normally play lots of custom games. It's just that i'm not so good and 1v1 makes me stress a little.
Within and Without
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
July 16 2010 04:09 GMT
#18
no1 who takes the time to respond to this poll is really 40+
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 16 2010 04:14 GMT
#19
I think after about 45 minutes of gaming (whether it be one long game or three 15 minute ones.) It is good to stand up and walk around. You might get a pilonidal cyst if you don't. >_>
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
July 16 2010 04:15 GMT
#20
i play one game a day, then go to bed =)
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 16 2010 04:16 GMT
#21
Ughhh, I played three games today, and I'm really tired. I feel like it's 3 am even though its only 12. Haven't played in a while.

Starcraft is mentally tiring.
Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
July 16 2010 04:29 GMT
#22
Personally I find that 10 games is A LOT for one day. The number feels small, but if you consider that each game takes from 12 minutes to over 40 min (excluding rushes; those aren't really "games" =p), you are spending anywhere from 2 hours to over SIX hours in game. Add in your toilet breaks, meals, and analysis, you just might be spending 8 hours on it, A DAY.
Same difference is not an oxymoron!
theRiverX
Profile Joined June 2010
Malaysia59 Posts
July 16 2010 04:37 GMT
#23
I can't spend more than 2 hours playing consecutively. It's stressful not only to my brain but also it's physically stressful. It's bad for your back, arms, wrists (carpel tunnel syndrome is possible), eyes. Not something to be taken lightly.
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
July 16 2010 04:38 GMT
#24
Many are the keys to good gaming stamina and most people tend to disregard all of them. The number one key to good game stamina is those really boring things, ergonomics and posture. If you got your computer space set up right and you are using good posture then that will vastly extend how long you can play. Good posture improves breathing and you will not get that feeling of your mind being dumbed down after a while.

Mini breaks is the other key, You can sit for several hours straight and then get tired and you end up needing a long break. But if you take 2 minutes between each game, get out of the chair, walk around, get a glas of water. Then you can sit forever without getting really tired. The key with the short breaks is to stand up and focus your eyes on something that is not the screen. Eye strain and prolonged sitting down is the two things that does the most to make you tire fast at the computer.

Also take breaks in between games to stretch your wrists, forearms, neck, roll your shoulders ten times one direction and then ten times in the other to improve blood flow to your arms. I can sit for 12 hours straight with no issue without getting pains or feeling tired and since I keep doing a lot of stretching exercises between games my muscles and joints are still soft as ever when I am done.

War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 16 2010 04:42 GMT
#25
YA, i get a little to stressed out playing 1v1 so i can usually do about 5. If i am playing more fun or messing around i can last longer. The ums games i can go all day haha
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
July 16 2010 04:47 GMT
#26
It depends, if I'm laddering then I usually play 6-10 games then take a short break and maybe play one custom game and browse forums a little bit, then play another 6-10 games. If I'm practicing with a practice partner, then I will play infinite games until either he has to go or I have to go to sleep/eat food.
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 04:53:24
July 16 2010 04:47 GMT
#27
I understand you because i also had to find out a way to be able to play games in my best conditions.

My very best record of games are 2 to 3 hours of straight playing non stop, makin around 15 to 20 games in one time.


BUT
i must have slept very well.
It means i must not be tired at all.
After having lunch, or dinner (if i have time in the night, and i-m not sleepy).
With the build orders wandering on my head and watching the map im playing and repeat the same strat to train it over and over again.
close messenger, webpages, everything.
focus on playing.
A cup of tea right next to me, and maybe a cigarrete for 5 minutes break
.

After playing 5 to 7 games i stop to watch the repays of the game o lost in really fast speed cz i usually know what i missed (macro, scouting, supply cap, lack of expansion, wrong unit composition, others).
I usually go 3 to 5 wins, and 2 or 3 loss, then 3 to 5 wins again (because the ladder works like that, if im really inspired i can go to 7 wins in a row but then its really hard to win again). it doesnt matter to lose... you just need to play all the freaking time...

I was able to do that more time than i thought i could, and without any distraction,

I-m able to play that many games cz some games doesnt last more than 7 to 12 minutes because i always train fast timing rushes, and sometimes it works and i win, and sometimes it doesnt and i lose right away and other it doesnt work and the game last 30 minutes.

I dislike turtling, so im always harrasing, and that means u can win fast or lose fast but is the only way to train macro and micro at the same time.

thats my 2 cents, im not a pro player, and i niether do this everyday of the week because im a disorganized person... but i think it can be a really good way to improve, i was a warcraft 3 player and i wasnt that good at frozen throne, but i feel good when im able to be at least around the top 20 of my diamond league... it might not mean nothing to you but at least it means im not plat, gold, silver or copper like some other friends of mine that doesnt give the time to train at all... or just play in a really messy way...

I try... hehe thats all... i havent played BW for 10 years and only played 2 years of war3 compitetively it was my first RTS i ever played against somebody else. im not a gosu gamer but i try to do what i can :D.



In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
Monk___
Profile Joined March 2010
United States123 Posts
July 16 2010 04:49 GMT
#28
For me it is kind of weird now. I have a busier schedule so there is a lot of days I can only play 1-2 games. But then I will have a free day with nothing to do. Maybe one of those a week. I can play 30-40 games on these days as long as I'm in the mood for it.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
July 16 2010 04:49 GMT
#29
Starting a couple days ago I have been trying to just play for 2 hours straight, no pauses It makes you more numb to losing, and you can analyze your play after the session if you wish to.

Up until recently I would play based on if I won or not...to sum it up, I was being a pussy.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 05:00:44
July 16 2010 04:54 GMT
#30
On July 16 2010 13:09 xiaofan wrote:
no1 who takes the time to respond to this poll is really 40+


...right because its not like theres this magical thing called a que where Im forced to wait for SC2 to find me an opponent...

also tips for gaining stamina. Keep playing, play till you find yourself unable to continue, then take a 5 minute break and keep playing. Do this repeatedly for many days(my usual is about 10-12 days of as many games as i can fit into my schedule), then take a break for a day or two, playing only a small fraction of what you normally play. This is to let your muscles relax while at the same time allowing you to "keep up" so to speak on training them for the memorization. Unfortunately because of my life I can't practice as much as pro gamers but I still get a good 5-10 hours in on a day where I got nothing else to do. Infact today i played roughly 30 something games easily.

edit-ninja edits!:
Don't be afriad to do stretches and hold your arms up to drain the lactic acid.
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 16 2010 04:57 GMT
#31
I generally play 5-10 games a day, at 3-5 per session, generally one in the morning/early afternoon and one at night.

What I've found is that after 3-5 games I've usually lost a couple and my mind starts losing focus and thinking about how I lost. Then I keep losing and create a self fulfilling prophecy. So I have to take some time off and stop thinking about it for a while. Then I come back and start with a fresh slate.
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
July 16 2010 04:59 GMT
#32
40+? I call shenanigans.

I try to play atleast 5 a day. Usually more depending on what my schedule is for the day. I watch a lot of SC2 though too.
Life is Good.
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
July 16 2010 05:03 GMT
#33
why is 40+ games there lol that is ridiculous.. that is like 10 hours straight.. idra only does 4 hour periods and i thought he was insane lol
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Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
July 16 2010 05:16 GMT
#34
I can't really tell how long I am playing without a break. It depends on the games.
If I have a 50minute harcore econgame with a lot of action it will certainly take more stamina then a straight win after 17 minutes.

A cigarette after a loss or a few breaths of fresh air in between games is definitely helpful for me.

When I remember how we played for 2-5 days straight up during early LANs without a real break (besides when the pizza arrived), I am suddenly feeling really old....
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
kakumei
Profile Joined August 2009
United States4 Posts
July 16 2010 11:14 GMT
#35
3-5, then my wrists tend to hurt :O

i normally play around 100apm, but lately ive been playing at around 150, so thats prolly why i can't play for as long as i used to

i used to be able to go like 10-15 matches without pooping out though
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 11:20:32
July 16 2010 11:20 GMT
#36
After 4-5 games I need a pause. Losing a game after a long game session can be very annoying. If I play too much, I can get kind of angry after a lose
You lose focus too, you play better with pauses.

Dillingerz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States54 Posts
July 16 2010 14:20 GMT
#37
I play 2-10 games a day usually. I like to take time between every match to get something to drink, piss, eat, talk to someone IRL, or something like that to remind me I'm in the real world or I'll sit there from 10pm to 6am playing nonstop.
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
July 16 2010 14:25 GMT
#38
i'm surprised by the result of this pool, turns out we're more casuals than we though ^
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ViRo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States137 Posts
July 16 2010 14:26 GMT
#39
I tend to play 2-3 games, then get up and do something else then come back 5-10 minutes later. I've also noticed I'll play more when I lose consistently. On a daily level I think I play about 10-20 games.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 14:35:05
July 16 2010 14:34 GMT
#40
Hmmm, I'd say 3-5 games. I usually lose interest playing more in 1 go. But I usually stretch my wrist and fingers after every game. I go watch the news, go for a walk with my dog, make some tea after 3-5 games in a row.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Canada505 Posts
July 16 2010 14:41 GMT
#41
This is my biggest problem I think. Whenever I'm not playing, especially at work, I can't think of anything else. I can't wait to play! Then when the time finally comes, I sit in front of my computer and my brain doesn't want to do it anymore. It doesn't want to deal with the intensity and would rather watch videos or replays.

I was getting pretty good at the end of phase 1 but the break took its toll. I think it's important to force yourself do a few really long sessions. You get used to it and everything gets easier.
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