EPTUPDATE: Still Unlisted Patch Balance Changes - Page 30
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Uranium
United States1077 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On July 09 2010 08:40 wooozy wrote: oh god the symbols for watchtowers are eyes now the mini map angry face in metalopolis is now an actual angry face http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7763/screenshot2010070815360.jpg Damnit, now I can't get that out of my head -.- | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 09 2010 09:52 Uranium wrote: Forcefield costs 50 energy btw OP. Its always costed 50 hasnt it? | ||
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Pebble
Germany326 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.platkat.com/images/ffffuuuufruit.jpg) when you take control of the lower tower... | ||
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Back
Canada505 Posts
On July 09 2010 10:32 arb wrote: Its always costed 50 hasnt it? Yes. He was just pointing out a typo on the opening post. + Show Spoiler + On July 09 2010 10:34 Pebble wrote: I wonder if it looks like when you take control of the lower tower... Yes it looks just like rotten fruits when you take control of a tower. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
On July 08 2010 12:36 Zelniq wrote: [*]Replays speeds are now Normal-Fast-Faster-x2-x4-x8 (before it was Slow Normal Fast Faster Fasterx3 Fasterx6.) Really the only change I could care for. Everything else will probably be tweaked within a month. | ||
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ab0x
Sweden9 Posts
It is of course possible that they will follow up with a larger animation. | ||
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Raano
Australia1 Post
It appears that you can now shift-queue gatherers (although I've only tested Probes) to dump their loads before following the next action in the queue, where in the past I believe they failed to dump their loads before continuing to the next waypoint (they would nudge the building and then wander on to next point while still carrying the resource). This is beneficial when selecting say 3 random Probes on minerals for gas, where you can now shift-queue them to the Nexus and then to the geyser without wasting the minerals they were (potentially) carrying. Another example may be when pulling all probes off during a harass and then shift-queueing them all back onto the Nexus then minerals. This will allow any gatherers carrying gas to dump their load before instead picking up minerals. Prepatch, iirc, they would hit the Nexus without load dumping and then proceed to the geyser/mineralpatch and waste their gas/minerals when they swap for minerals/gas. As I said, I've no way to double-check this was the case before, and I only noticed it while playing Protoss (but I assume it affects all races). This is likely related to the rally-point attack-move to move change, so there may be other subtle alterations to shift-click queuing etc. EDIT: I did some more playing around and noticed that the 'failure to dump load' bug(?) still exists in some situations. I had all mineral Probes at my main shift-clicked to my expo Nexus and then further shift-click queued to the minerals there. They failed to dump their loads and just nudged the expo Nexus before moving over to minerals (where then the one's already carrying minerals, of course, remembered they were carrying something and then returned to drop off their load). Only situation I can see this being useful were it not the case would be when transferring gatherers to your expo and want to cash in their loads before they make the journey (vulnerable Probe trains are better off not being loaded with minerals if eaten). Although I didn't try actually queuing my main's Probes to their Nexus before sending them on their journey to the expo (which would make more practical sense anyway), I assume it would be the same and they nudge the main's Nexus without load dumping before heading to the expo. EDIT2: It appears that this is a bit more than I thought and I have no idea what is prepatch and what isn't, so will just list what I see. Only tested with Probes. A: Select a group of Probes, half carrying minerals and/or gas and half empty (matters not whether they were idle or mining). Click them to the Nexus (not shift-click). The mineral/gas-carrying ones will dump load and then return to mining OR gas, depending on which they were carrying. Gas carriers will divide equally between the immediate geysers. Probes without a load will then will sit and hug the Nexus forever. B: Select a group of gathering Probes. Shift-click them to (main) Nexus and shift-click queue then to wherever you like such as over at your expo's minerals (or the ground next to your main  ).Some of them will dump their loads, and some won't. Seems to be that: a) Probes that were in the process of returning will dump their minerals and then continue to next waypoint. b) Probes that were mining will leave the mineral patch holding a crystal, then nudge the Nexus without dumping load, then continue to next waypoint. c) Probes that were on their way back from dumping a load will pick up more minerals, then nudge the Nexus without load dumping, and then continue to next waypoint. Result: Depending on the individual stage of the auto-mining process a gatherer is at will depend on whether they are carrying minerals at the end of such a shift-click waypoint queue. Is this significant? I'm not really qualified to judge, but it doesn't seem intended. As an extra note, Probes remain selected after entering a geyser and will follow any commands given once they exit (that's new, yeah?). Probes within a geyser are not able to be selected, as before. | ||
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IdleSource
Canada1 Post
I wasted a large portion of my army coming out of a nydus worm before I noticed this...  | ||
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
It seems as though "pushing" enemy units doesn't have the same effect as it used to? For example, I run 10 Zerglings into a probe line, the probes can now effectively surround and make a wall around the 'lings. Forgive me if I'm wrong (it has been a month since Phase 1), but it seemed as if before you could run through the probe line, pushing some of the probes out of the way. Now you just hit a probe wall. Maybe somebody still on the old patch can confirm/deny what I'm remembering as the past behavior. Maybe I'm just crazy. To further add to this point, I was playing a 2v2 with a buddy, and our units were too compacted in a choke (whatever that terrible Lava map is. Death to lava maps! \o ) I tried to move my units outside of his clustered MMM ball so tank fire wouldn't shoot everything at once, but the units simply collided and nothing was done to spread them out. I know that before this patch your units could nudge your allies units out of the way if units were stuck in a ball... | ||
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Mactavian
Canada60 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
On July 09 2010 12:49 InfiniteIce wrote: I don't know if this has been mentioned. Sorry if I miseed it in the excitement of Beta and the length of this thread... It seems as though "pushing" enemy units doesn't have the same effect as it used to? For example, I run 10 Zerglings into a probe line, the probes can now effectively surround and make a wall around the 'lings. Forgive me if I'm wrong (it has been a month since Phase 1), but it seemed as if before you could run through the probe line, pushing some of the probes out of the way. Now you just hit a probe wall. Maybe somebody still on the old patch can confirm/deny what I'm remembering as the past behavior. Maybe I'm just crazy. To further add to this point, I was playing a 2v2 with a buddy, and our units were too compacted in a choke (whatever that terrible Lava map is. Death to lava maps! \o ) I tried to move my units outside of his clustered MMM ball so tank fire wouldn't shoot everything at once, but the units simply collided and nothing was done to spread them out. I know that before this patch your units could nudge your allies units out of the way if units were stuck in a ball... The allied units thing is definitely true. Does it do that with your own units? I mean does your unit nudge your other units out of its way? If it doesn't this is going to be really, really annoying I can't believe this game is 2 weeks from launch, it seems like they've completely broken it. Bnet is f'ing out, so many new bugs... wtf is going on? | ||
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
The vision blockers outside the mains of Scrap Station have a different shape. They were previously rectangular, and now they have diagonal edges. Screenshot: http://img413.imageshack.us/f/picture1xw.png/ | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On July 09 2010 09:52 Uranium wrote: Forcefield costs 50 energy btw OP. Wow..i cant believe i said 25. I knew it was 50..jeezes | ||
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Bork
United States4 Posts
#26 Transport units now move towards the unit to Load it, when you Right-Click a Transport with the units you want to load. Previously, only the units would move toward the transport, while the transport would just sit there. NOTE: It QUEUES this action, meaning it will first finish any orders you gave to it, before it moves to pick-up the units. This was already in the game. | ||
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Spaceball
United States213 Posts
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
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