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Evenge
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia10 Posts
June 02 2010 13:34 GMT
#21
Sad to hear that IAH will be the company host for SEA Region.

*sighs*
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
June 02 2010 13:48 GMT
#22
On June 02 2010 20:30 Boonbag wrote:
What the hell do they think their new game is ? Some kind of masterpiece of Da vinci ? The longeviety argument... so we have to pay you more so that you can keep making good games ? Wait isn't that your job on the first place ?


3 words for you : Robert A Kotick
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 13:55:43
June 02 2010 13:54 GMT
#23
I find the assumption that e-Sports will take off in SG is utter BS. If you know the average mentality of a Singaporean parent. STUDY STUDY STUDY!

Hence I'm buying the US version. Apart from the extreme price hike, the majority of keyboard warriors in SEA servers is just..... can't even have a good game with half the people screaming at you cause you messed up.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
June 02 2010 13:58 GMT
#24
Vanilla WoW + BC + WoTLK = 80 + 60 + 60 = 200
Subscription = Total two years subscription = 24 months x 25 = 600.

I've spent about S$800 on WoW through the years. Now, think about a game that's going to last as long, or possibly longer than WoW and has the potential to serve as a future platform of long-term gaming that's slated to replace Warcraft III. If you have seen the level of features and functionality Blizzard has thrown at the typical user with the Map Editor, that potential is exponentially expanded.

Think about it. The S$109 you're paying for is going to last just that long instead of a Company of Heroes that remains hot for 2-3 years at most
.

I agree. SC2 should be S$800.

I'm not someone who's utterly devoted to RTS and spend most of my time looking at the game-related fansites.


Yeah man, who would spend all their time on a fansite for a game? What losers eh
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
June 02 2010 14:25 GMT
#25
I don't really see what ppl are whining about when it comes to the price, cus here at least starcraft 2 is cheaper than most other new games coming out.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
LastToNight
Profile Joined May 2010
Israel4 Posts
June 02 2010 14:27 GMT
#26
On June 02 2010 20:30 Boonbag wrote:
What the hell do they think their new game is ? Some kind of masterpiece of Da vinci ? The longeviety argument... so we have to pay you more so that you can keep making good games ? Wait isn't that your job on the first place ?


I completely agree with you.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
June 02 2010 14:31 GMT
#27
On June 02 2010 22:21 danbel1005 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2010 19:38 Perfect Balance wrote:
There's one direction Blizzard is moving in - towards more money.

That's the only common denominator of all their recent decisions, and users suffer.


OMG really? You sir are a genious
Dude, who doesn't. Do Restaurants give food for free, Does a Hospital operate for free, don't you have to pay for clothes, or gas, Will Your Girlfriend marry you if your a Cheap-ass?
Don't know what world you might be living in, one thing is for sure tho, on Mother Earth MONEY TALKS, get over it, its pretty obvious Blizzard will set a price to any of its products, complaining about it its pointless, once the product is out if you consider its worth the money you'll buy the damn thing. Buying SC2 is not an Obligation.

On the other hand. a little sarcasm plz?
+ Show Spoiler +

There's one direction Automotive is moving in - towards money.
Wish I could talk to Ettore Bugatti or Jean Bugatti so they could set a lower price to its products.


Theres a difference between just making a product and selling it and squeezing every last drop of money you can from someone. Im not gonna pay to use a napkin at a restaurant.

Oh and public health care is pretty cool
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Nitron
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore177 Posts
June 02 2010 14:38 GMT
#28
The only fear i have from buying the US version is that it will lag a lot. I really do not wish to play in the asian servers.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
June 02 2010 14:57 GMT
#29
On June 02 2010 20:30 Boonbag wrote:
What the hell do they think their new game is ? Some kind of masterpiece of Da vinci ? The longeviety argument... so we have to pay you more so that you can keep making good games ? Wait isn't that your job on the first place ?


Pardon me, but i guess they lost their more talented staff, who have went off in search of greener pastures. Compare the blizzard of today and that of the past - obviously the past blizzard made decisions that were much better and accounted more to the gamers. Now, all this staff have went off in search of other up and rising companies - leaving substandard people to take over their jobs.

So, some guy just comes in and takes over important positions in the company. They make decisions based on their own judgment - they do not care about the gamers in general, thinking that all the gamers are saying are complete bullshit and only their judgment matters. They trust themselves so much that it has backfired. I'm sure that the facebook integration crap was due to some employee who thought that he had struck gold after he had the idea of using facebook since facebook was what connected "everyone" and would thus serve as the BEST platform for people to add friends. They could just pay a small fee to facebook to allow the integration and voila! - nobody can spoof anymore.

Problem is, they are so narrow minded that they do not give a hoot about people that do not use facebook. Basically, from everything i have seen, Blizzard just seems to give this message to everyone,"Either conform to our terms, or get your stinking ass out of our sight. We are the best, so we do not need to care about others. If you aren't happy with our game, then go find some other developer. But we know that you will still come back to us since we develop the best games." They are trying to dominate global eSports, competitions and anything related to games
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
HypnoticPoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Singapore291 Posts
June 02 2010 15:08 GMT
#30
I hope this improves the eSports scene in Singapore. Right now it's just a bunch of garbage DotA leagues and the only way we can compete in games like starcraft its in WCG, which is haphazardly ran. Ever since the screwup with Hellgate London i can never trust the quality of IAHgame's services, i hope they do better this time.
MEOW.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 16:21:21
June 02 2010 16:00 GMT
#31
On June 02 2010 15:02 wwiv wrote:
That's right. People can look at Starcraft, or Diablo II, or Warcraft 3 and realize just how freakishly long Blizzard has been supporting this game.


Those were Blizzard games, not Activision Blizzard games.
CoD:MW2 was released last November, this month Activision released a U$15 "stimulus package" (read: map pack). It even included maps from the first Modern Warfare game.

EDIT: Funny thing is that NO producers of BW work at Activision Blizzard in 2010, some programmers are still around.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
June 02 2010 16:13 GMT
#32
1. You're paying for a Blizzard Game that's bound to last for a long, long time.


So they are going to switch their model and try to kill their own game? I don't undertand how taking what made blizzard a great company and shitting all over it and feeding it to us is going to make the game last better.
MadLag
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland82 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 16:27:29
June 02 2010 16:25 GMT
#33
On June 02 2010 23:25 Roflhaxx wrote:
I don't really see what ppl are whining about when it comes to the price, cus here at least starcraft 2 is cheaper than most other new games coming out.


well not in Poland :D they even rised price for it -_-; and now the most akward part - buing in uk (along with delivery payment) is cheaper than buying in shop next door :D

this pretty much looks like blizz is trying to ripp off no english speaking comunity (specialy now when they translate game on their own instead of 3rd party how it used to be here - even then game was cheaper ... )
htennek_mil
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore59 Posts
June 02 2010 16:47 GMT
#34
The Q&A makes me feel happier for pre-ordering the game from USA.

No way my money is going to them for those kind of rubbish reasons.
Deimos0
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Poland277 Posts
June 02 2010 17:32 GMT
#35
On June 03 2010 01:25 MadLag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2010 23:25 Roflhaxx wrote:
I don't really see what ppl are whining about when it comes to the price, cus here at least starcraft 2 is cheaper than most other new games coming out.


well not in Poland :D they even rised price for it -_-; and now the most akward part - buing in uk (along with delivery payment) is cheaper than buying in shop next door :D

this pretty much looks like blizz is trying to ripp off no english speaking comunity (specialy now when they translate game on their own instead of 3rd party how it used to be here - even then game was cheaper ... )



Yeah, the present price is just ridiculous :D. But the initial rage against it won't stop most of the players.
protect me from what I want
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
June 02 2010 17:38 GMT
#36
I posted a thread explaining how the whole SE Asia thing is a cost cutting (covering) exercise, but was closed on the basis that it was obvious and common knowledge.

Anyhow, basically because Blizzard's new battle.net design is client-server rather than peer2peer their bandwidth costs will be a lot higher, and international traffic is more expensive than local. It's just plain cheaper for them to plonk Australia, New Zealand, Singapore etc on a more localised server.

Sure, WoW was client-server with servers based in the US for sg, nz and aus players, but that was supported by a 20$ a month fee.

It's all about money.
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 17:53:24
June 02 2010 17:49 GMT
#37
Blizzard's pro-gaming intentions in general:
-Remove cross realm, maybe add it later
-Remove LAN so instant unit response isn't even a possibility anymore
-Remove chatrooms so that organizing tournaments without going through them becomes a huge pain
-Ask for more money to play their game in general because poor Blizzard is just having a hard time getting by these days (shed a tear for them here)
-Screw the one organization that managed to just about bring their video game to sport level because they weren't accepting total control and ownership of all produced content by Blizztard. Silly them!

My my, that whole attidude has some really huge potential for Blizzard's wall... uh.. I mean ESPORTS growth!

Trying to nickel and dime at every corner will never see this game become a sport. In fact, Blizzard really don't want it to, because to develop as a "sport", you need enough independence for players and tournament organizers to easily set things up themselves. And the last thing Blizzard wants to give players or organizers is any kind of independence, as evidenced by every single decision regarding Bnet 2.0 as of late. Would be too hard to charge users for "premium service" if they have even the option to step out of line for a minute.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
June 02 2010 17:55 GMT
#38
I'll choose KR one for playing on Asia server instead of SEA Server lol
@taefoxy
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
June 02 2010 18:02 GMT
#39
On June 03 2010 01:00 Caos2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2010 15:02 wwiv wrote:
That's right. People can look at Starcraft, or Diablo II, or Warcraft 3 and realize just how freakishly long Blizzard has been supporting this game.


Those were Blizzard games, not Activision Blizzard games.
CoD:MW2 was released last November, this month Activision released a U$15 "stimulus package" (read: map pack). It even included maps from the first Modern Warfare game.

EDIT: Funny thing is that NO producers of BW work at Activision Blizzard in 2010, some programmers are still around.


Mike Morihame and Frank Pearce, two of Blizzard's founders, still work there. From what I could find out the majority of people that left were from the diablo team, not starcraft.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71614

there's a list of some of the Blizzard employees working on sc2 and their experience
hofodomo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
June 02 2010 18:35 GMT
#40
On June 02 2010 23:31 SubtleArt wrote:
Theres a difference between just making a product and selling it and squeezing every last drop of money you can from someone. Im not gonna pay to use a napkin at a restaurant.


Except you probably already are...I'm pretty certain that the $11 burger plate I got at the local sports bar isn't covering only the burger.
Smoke weed ev'ry day.
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