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forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
May 31 2010 07:31 GMT
#481
Ho....ly....shit...

Eyes officially opened.

Bravo on the research OP, bravo.
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Azalie
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand117 Posts
May 31 2010 07:34 GMT
#482
Epic read thanks alot for making this, more people need to see this thread and know whats up
showbiz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States66 Posts
May 31 2010 07:44 GMT
#483
Going outside the game a bit...

In the investment world, Bob Kotick (activision ceo) is considered a huge drag on the company by most analysts. Activision's stock hasn't gone anywhere and many people point to him as the reason.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 31 2010 07:48 GMT
#484
Captain Peabody's post on page 24 was quite long but it really helped me ponder a totally different perspective in this tumultuous climate of nerd rage.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Xiphiasar
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
May 31 2010 07:53 GMT
#485
So sad. I had heard about the Infinity Ward debacle, but never made the connection that those assholes are the same people who Blizzard answers to.

Maybe Blizzard will hear the nerd-raging and change their plans. Fingers crossed for chatrooms and cross-region play.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1171 Posts
May 31 2010 07:56 GMT
#486
let's just all start playing C&C XD
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Aredhel0
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 08:02:23
May 31 2010 07:56 GMT
#487
Well done. You've not only successfully put into perspective a looming issue in the videogame industry, but plastered a bullseye on one incredibly well-deserving target. The only question that remains is, what we as consumers can do to help shield our beloved Blizzard Entertainment, a company that has shown benevolent disregard (by traditional corporate standards) for the pursuit of financial gains in lieu of providing excellent service and products to their loyal fanbase, from the capitalist onslaught of it's majority-partner, and cruel overseer, Activision.

Robert Kotick is just plain evil. He has advanced beyond everyday evil, and transgressed into the realm of cartoonish super-villainry ala Mr. Burns in the "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" episode of the Simpsons. I mean we're talking Prison-Wardon-from-Shawshank-Redemption-Evil. We all know what happened to the individuals in these examples....
"I had Mustard!?" - Otto
blackodd
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden451 Posts
May 31 2010 07:58 GMT
#488
Epic post.

"Failboat" and "Set sail for fail" comes to mind when I think the whole situation
For I am the Queen of Blades. And none shall ever dispute my rule, again...
Mecha71
Profile Joined March 2010
United States59 Posts
May 31 2010 08:29 GMT
#489
:/ Surprising so many people didn't get this feeling already. $$$>"Hardcore niche groups" interest.

Soccermoms and casuals now make up the majority of gamers, they have the most power when it comes to a games conception.

Activision is going to milk the ever living hell outta blizzard's track record for max profits and drive blizzard into the ground and just buy out the next gaming company that "appears" to care for gamers and has any originality.

I hope you like facebook integration and wowlike policies for the rest of blizzards cash cow franchises, gonna be funny seeing micro transactions in Diablo and difficulty lowered to match brain dead monkeys who wanna get full armor sets in a couple weeks or less, cause we all know "excessive" hours playing games to get anywhere is unattractive to little timmy with mommy's credit card in pocket.
Cheesenium
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia9 Posts
May 31 2010 08:29 GMT
#490
FYI,guys, there are some really interesting or disturbing insights about our "beloved" Kotick with these 2 links from Kotaku. Take it as a pinch of salt,as this could be sensationalized news.

http://kotaku.com/5474949/bobby-kotick-warm-and-fuzzy-defends-notorious-no fun-statements
http://kotaku.com/5475039/activision-chief-regrets-not-making-guitar-hero-with-harmonix

Back then, when Guitar Hero first came out,it was published by Activision. Then, Kotick thinks that Harmonix is some failed developer,so he bought Red Octane instead. Forward to present day, what happen to Red Octane and Harmonix?

Harmonix is still alive and kicking with their competitor, EA again, while Red Octane is dying. Same thing happen with CoD's veterans who are now in a publishing deal with EA under the banner of Respawn Entertainment.

Activision didnt just killed Call of Duty,they killed Guitar Hero too. Now Starcraft 2 is the next on the chopping board. They are definitely gonna kill it in one way or another.

Also, a nice read on how shallow Kotick is,with some quotes.

"Maxis? "When Maxis was getting sold everyone was being sold on Sim City 2000 being this fantastic product that was incredibly late and wasn't coming out." Kotick went to visit some executives at the company. In another office, Will Wright was working on a game called Jefferson. Kotick didn't meet with Wright. No one could explain the game to him. What Kotick missed was the game that would become the Sims."

"Blizzard? He should have bought them sooner. He had thought that a subscription version of World of Warcraft was "the silliest thing" he'd ever heard of."

""When we were buying Guitar Hero, or buying Red Octane, the makers of Guitar Hero, we knew about Harmonix," Kotick said. "We had always known them as sort of somewhat a failed developer of music games." Activision decided that their own studio, Neversoft, made good games, so they would make Guitar Hero from now on, not the Boston-based Harmonix. He said that had Activision met with Harmonix, things would have been very different."

Source: http://kotaku.com/5474949/bobby-kotick-warm-and-fuzzy-defends-notorious-no fun-statements

Lastly, Tim Schafer, creator of Psychonaunts and Brutal Legends said this on his Twitter.

"Getting mad at Activision for this kind of thing is like getting mad at an ape for throwing feces. It's just how the beast communicates."

This is how Activision treating their developers,and we all know how they are treating us.

Source: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=237548

Would be great to see that these are also in the thread.

EA has it's notorious past, but EA's notorious glory is now over, replaced with Activision Blizzard's even more ridiculous greed.
RAZROK
Profile Joined March 2010
Latvia49 Posts
May 31 2010 09:08 GMT
#491
On May 31 2010 02:53 UnderWorld_Dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 02:24 shurgen wrote:
On May 31 2010 01:34 UnderWorld_Dream wrote:
Huge work into this, and very interesting.

I hate money whores and i don't want my favorite game to be a product for the $profit of someone. But let's face it, the goal of any compagny is to make benifits and the more they do, the more they will try to do.

For those saying: 'im not buying sc2 anymore': Well, are you really gonna sacrifice all the fun and entertainement you could have with this game because of that guy? You dont wanna lend your money to them? Well thats also a greedy comment IMO
I mean, not being willing to buy a game because the owners are looking for profit is kinda greedy in itself, isnt it ?

Just leave the money-minded people focused on their profits. I will be focusing on playing the game because that is what I like.

They can have all the money they want i just don't care. I will have more fun than them in life then.
Com on guys don't let this ruin your game.


EDIT
Hey this is a Starcraft progaming forum.
Do not discourage people from buying the game in here, what the hell?


This post just made me rage.

I'm greedy for not wanting to pay a significant amount of money (at least $150 for all 3 campaigns + more if I want cross realm play) for an unfinished game that developers have not even been showing signs of listening to what the people want?

Oh and this is a STARCRAFT programing forum (for now) not a STARCRAFT 2 progaming forum, as it kind of doesn't exist.

Yay for Blizzard run e-sports I guess


I'm only saying that being so concerned by the cost of the game is somehow greedy. But it's my opinon you can disagree i'm totally fine with it.

It's a matter of how much you love something and how much you are willing to pay for it. Some people would not pay 5$ for sc2 while i would pay 200$ and woulndt care. (of course i would find it
expensive but i'd just drink less beer??)

Sadly this world is ran by profits and whatever you could do, it won't change.


WTF, just WTF. Dude... Im speechless. How is this greed, obviously u have no idea what greed is. Its like if Ferrari and some cheap, crappy but good looking chinese car would cost the same. Would you really spend your money on that peace of junk instead of ferrari? Starcraft 2 feels loose, not finished and just massed up to get fast money type game. All they do is talk, talk, talk, promote, talk, talk, hype people with all their events, talk and once again talk. They dont actually do anything.
You will not win because I will not lose!
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 09:09:39
May 31 2010 09:09 GMT
#492
Playing SC:BW with 2 other friends - $20

Playing SC2 with 2 other friends after all expansions are out - up to $540

For everything else, Activision is there to take your money.
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 31 2010 09:33 GMT
#493
Nice write up, but this isn't too surprising since Kotick is the devil in the gaming industry and you can ask almost any well informed gamer who knows about the industry will say the same thing. Ever since the success of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Kotick decided to kick it into gear and start releasing CoD titles every year. In fact, a new CoD title is due to hit this fall (last CoD game was Modern Warfare 2, which came out around November 2009). Activision had no problem removing InfinityWard, who were the guys behind the "good" CoD games because they have Treyarch, who is another CoD developer, and they hired a 3rd studio recently.

In all, I just hope, this won't affect Blizzard too much. I like the beta so far, but it doesn't have the same love that I have with SC1. I'm sure that will change over time with the full release.
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
May 31 2010 09:33 GMT
#494
i like the image of the COD airport scene. I feel that that was really appropriate.
Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
TastyQQQs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1 Post
May 31 2010 09:34 GMT
#495
Activision/Blizzard is taking the bet that SC2 players will tolerate being treated like garbage in order to play the best RTS on the market. The community has been complaining forever about these problems, but none of it will matter if you show up to Best Buy and lay down your $50-60 on day one.

Your money speaks much louder than any forum post. Withhold your cash until some big changes are made.
Prae
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium77 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 10:00:02
May 31 2010 09:52 GMT
#496
Too bad people are stupid enouph to spend their money on these things,
else they woulnd keep doing it, you can say we'll boycot it but theirs so many ppl that will still buy these silly features & bs
just look at the state of console gaming these days the same will happen on the computer

Blizz sold their soul to the devil & now it belongs to him & so does all our money, if we want to play some decent maps 9/10. Cus they will give the mapmakers a littlebit of money & who doesn't need money? i know i do.. so all the good maps will become "premium" & all the poor sobs can play the "sucky" maps without paying for them

and in the end the people who refuse to pay get screwed cus we can't get the "full" game experiance as paying players do

Activision you screwed blizzard up good
khaiyin
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia2 Posts
May 31 2010 10:33 GMT
#497
Thankyou for this write-up. A real eye-opener. And I was curious as to why Modern Warfare 2 was still at $90 even though it's 6 months old. It explains a lot of the gaming community decisions which their games have made: MW2 'stimulus map pack', WoW's ever-growing fees, SC2's direction.
GuYuTe-
Profile Joined February 2005
United States550 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 11:07:33
May 31 2010 11:02 GMT
#498
Great post. I really hate to see what Blizzard has become. Sc2 hasn't appealed to me at all since the very first screen shot and this is just the last straw. I will definitely not be buying Starcraft 2, and that's coming from someone who has bought probably 7 copies of Broodwar over the years and an ardent supporter of Blizzard since Warcraft 1. Hopefully I'll be able to pirate a cracked version of the campaign as that's all I care about playing at all. If not I'll just have to do without it.
gedassan
Profile Joined March 2010
Lithuania83 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 11:39:29
May 31 2010 11:36 GMT
#499
The greatest problem I have with Blizzard is how they cannot keep my account from getting hacked. Just recently got an email that my WoW account (cancelled subscription last year) was suspected of illegal activities and thus closed.

With them now merging the accounts into one BattleNet account, all the risk is compounded. All a hacker needs to do is hack one account instead of several for each game... And their security is still crap.


Concerning new maps for sale, I can live with what is out there allready. If I master all those maps, I will then think if I really need a new one.

Frankly, there is a reason why Lost Temple was so often used in BW. I don't really need that many maps unless we are doing some random comp stomping with friends.
The way is made clear when viewed from above.
TheDrill
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation145 Posts
May 31 2010 12:08 GMT
#500
On May 31 2010 18:09 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
Playing SC:BW with 2 other friends - $20

Playing SC2 with 2 other friends after all expansions are out - up to $540

For everything else, Activision is there to take your money.

It gets even sillier when you already have a US account and your two friends are in Europe and Asia, with their own accounts in Europe and Asia... Just add $360 to that price.
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