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KungKras
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden484 Posts
May 29 2010 19:28 GMT
#301
I am going to cancel my preorder and reconsider buying the game, so no.
"When life gives me lemons, I go look for oranges"
haggard312
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3 Posts
May 29 2010 19:30 GMT
#302
On May 29 2010 18:49 Ai52487963 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:24 haggard312 wrote:
This pretty much sums up this entire thread. [image loading]


That doesn't say how many are playing from a torrent.


On topic, I'd buy it, but only to play with my housemates. I'm moving to England for graduate study for a year and if I stay there for my phd, then I guess I'd have to buy the Euro copies and say goodbye to playing with my US friends in SC2.


It would say "In non-steam game" if it was a torrent.
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 19:36:49
May 29 2010 19:36 GMT
#303
as a BW fan for a long time...I'll buy a copy to at least see what the sequel to bw has to offer...
but that's the only reason
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Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
May 29 2010 19:37 GMT
#304
I'll probably buy it but I've been shaken ever since the no LAN deal. LAN is a big deal for me.. my friends and I love putting on LANs and playing UMS games. They probably wouldn't of gotten into BW if it wasn't for us playing on LAN.

I think I'm going to buy the game, cuz I love SC and have a pirated copy on my flash drive with LAN capabilities when they develop it.
Legends never gg
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 29 2010 19:39 GMT
#305
I'm sure I'll buy it, but if it doesn't get MUCH better FAST I won't be buying the expansions.

If a crack team comes up with a version that lets you play LAN mode I will absolutely be downloading that.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
May 29 2010 19:50 GMT
#306
On May 30 2010 04:39 -orb- wrote:
I'm sure I'll buy it, but if it doesn't get MUCH better FAST I won't be buying the expansions.

If a crack team comes up with a version that lets you play LAN mode I will absolutely be downloading that.


Samezies.

I'd rather play a nonlegit copy on private servers without all the stupid features like achievements than bnet if it meant LAN latency, global ladder, chat channels, and better custom game hosting. I think 90% of TL would too, which is more than enough people to populate such a server.
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terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
May 29 2010 19:58 GMT
#307
On May 29 2010 16:05 Piski wrote:
Well I have to say yes. Dont really see why not. I like SC2, it's the bnet I dislike and I can always hope that changes for the better


Excellant point. Honestly as people voice their opinions on things that bnet needs. They will patch it to include new features (such as chat rooms) Blizzard will probally not make any massive changes to bnet prior to the release of sc2 simply because not everyone can play it yet therefore not everyone can make an intelligent enough choice on the issue.

I'm going to be honest I would like to see chat rooms in sc2 however, in all honesty I only ever want to chat with 2 types of people.
1.) Real life friends/ friends of real life friends (in this case getting an email address will be easy so I can add them as a friend and talk to them)
2.) People that I do not know personally but I played a game with them and had alot of fun. With this case if you just played a game with them, [whether that be the match making ladder or regular create game] I can select there name in the scores screen at the end of the map and select add friend or chat If they feel the same way I do and wish to have other matches with me then they will respond in the chat or be added as a friend.

With case 2 yes a chat room would be more efficient imho however there is a work around with bnet 2.0 just be patient and wait I'm almost postive that before all the expantions are released chat rooms will be brought in

As to the question in this thread at hand, I have already preordered the game however I probally would have anyway. (did not vote since I already bought the game)
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
May 29 2010 19:59 GMT
#308
On May 30 2010 03:35 yiff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 03:33 swanized wrote:

I don't get why everyone is so hardcore about staying with SC1. I mean, yea the game was fucking amazing, with an incredible skill ceiling. But isn't it time to move on? It's been like 12 years. Updated graphics and physics engine isn't a bad thing. Sure we have MBS and automine etc..but all that does in reality is take away the monotonous activities like sending EVERY scv to minerals EVERY game. In the end i think after 1-2 years when SC2 is balanced we will all forgot about SC1.

Have faith in blizzard xD



I am guessing from your 34 posts that you are not a Broodwar player and that you probably don't see how truly epic playing BW was (I may be wrong though number of posts don't mean a lot)

what I mean is not that new graphics and Automine are bad things.

those are nice additions but the overall game quality has dipped down quite a bit so I don't why move on after 12 awesome years to something of lesser quality even if it has been a while. I am ready for another 20 years of BW if needed



Wierd. I feel completely the opposite. I feel that SC2 is a completely superior game to BW in every way. And i played BW. Since i was 15. I even managed to get to B- with terran. I'm 26 now and i simply can't wait for the release of SC2. Maybe im the exception? I just love the new graphics..the new units..new abilites..new strategies. Perhaps i was just burnt out on SC1.


I think you're missing the point here, no one is saying the GAMEPLAY of SC2 is that bad, in fact I would agree that it is probably on par with Brood War (this is from a non e-sports perspective of course). The problem I have and many other people have with the game is the presentation - namely BNET 2.0. The game itself is fine but the service through which we must play is about 4 giant steps backwards in design principle, this is the reason people are complaining, we want PROPER channels, cross region support, and LAN play. And to all of those who say 'BNET 2.0 will have good latency eventually' the bottom line is this - LAN will always be faster than over the internet regardless of what SPEED your internet is (I made a blog post about this before). This is a key difference between connection speed and latency, latency can only be reduced by reducing the number of 'hops' (the number of computers and servers your connection goes through to reach its destination). LAN support effectively reduces this to 2 hops, your computer, your router, your friends computer. BNET 2.0 will ALWAYS have higher latency no_matter_what_internet_you_have as latency is not affected by the speed of a connection. One could potentially be running 2500 MS latency but still have 5 MBPS download. Latency is the time it takes to MAKE a connection, speed is how fast information moves once a connection is made. I'm still taking my Networking Technician course and I can figure this out, Blizzard is supposed to have highly-skilled and experience network admins working for them, how come they can't figure the same?
i-bonjwa
TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
May 29 2010 20:06 GMT
#309
While StarCraft 2 is a pretty damn good game, it's a huge disappointment. We've seen nothing ground breaking; and it's difficult to justify 5 years of production value.

Disappointment result from unmet expectations. And I for one will certainly be lowering my expectations of the Blizzard brand.
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GiantEnemyCrab
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada503 Posts
May 29 2010 20:07 GMT
#310
ima wait and see...if this game turns out to be epic like startcraft 1 did after 2 or 3 years ima buy it but defintly not buying it when it comes out i never do
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yomi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States773 Posts
May 29 2010 20:17 GMT
#311
I would buy it on the trust that it will improve over time. But right now exactly as it is I do not think it is worth $60.
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
May 29 2010 20:18 GMT
#312
On May 30 2010 05:07 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
ima wait and see...if this game turns out to be epic like startcraft 1 did after 2 or 3 years ima buy it but defintly not buying it when it comes out i never do


Well I'll buy it because for me 50 bucks for a game, even if I only got 15 hours out of it I would say I got my money's worth (and I've already got more like 1000 hours of SC2B for free so clearly I like the game and its a hell of a lot cheaper than going out somewhere for entertainment). That said as my previous posts in this thread indicate, I have more than my fair share of qualms about the direction BNET 2.0 is taking (I lump leagues and ladders into BNET 2.0 category as well, some may say these are directly linked to game play however). I will play the game for what it is and I'm sure I'll enjoy my time with it, but for this game to hold my attention for three to four years like all of Blizzard's previous games have (most cases longer) BNET 2.0 is going to have to step it up a notch in terms of true competitive play.
i-bonjwa
Vynakros
Profile Joined March 2010
Slovenia63 Posts
May 29 2010 20:20 GMT
#313
On May 30 2010 05:06 TossFloss wrote:
Disappointment result from unmet expectations. And I for one will certainly be lowering my expectations of the Blizzard brand.


This, and it saddens me :[.
Fraud
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada108 Posts
May 29 2010 21:14 GMT
#314
zomg guys, we've given them feedback and they haven't coded chat rooms in immediately. I think we shouldn't buy the game. I don't get how coding chat rooms in takes time.

Yes Blizzard made a few mistakes, we realize it, they realize it, you don't need to be so melo-dramatic about it. The sky isn't falling, you will buy SC2 because its a fun game, and all is right in the world.
Bull-Demon
Profile Joined January 2003
United States582 Posts
May 29 2010 21:42 GMT
#315
All they need is use created and modderrated chat rooms. Clan channels, x17 type stuff. Forget the public shit.

And give people a choice on which realm to play on.
~_~
Opinion
Profile Joined May 2010
United States236 Posts
May 29 2010 21:45 GMT
#316
On May 30 2010 06:14 Fraud wrote:
zomg guys, we've given them feedback and they haven't coded chat rooms in immediately. I think we shouldn't buy the game. I don't get how coding chat rooms in takes time.

Yes Blizzard made a few mistakes, we realize it, they realize it, you don't need to be so melo-dramatic about it. The sky isn't falling, you will buy SC2 because its a fun game, and all is right in the world.


NO SIR THE SKY IS MOST CERTAINLY FALLING AND BLIZZARD SHOULD JUST CANCEL STARCRAFT 2!!!

Hysterical over exaggerations are the name of the game.

This is just politics.

Grab a virtual pitch fork.
Smikis
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania117 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 21:54:03
May 29 2010 21:51 GMT
#317
On May 30 2010 04:30 haggard312 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:49 Ai52487963 wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:24 haggard312 wrote:
This pretty much sums up this entire thread. [image loading]


That doesn't say how many are playing from a torrent.


On topic, I'd buy it, but only to play with my housemates. I'm moving to England for graduate study for a year and if I stay there for my phd, then I guess I'd have to buy the Euro copies and say goodbye to playing with my US friends in SC2.


It would say "In non-steam game" if it was a torrent.



you can add mw2 as steam game to be listed as official game, and you were able to play pirated mw2 over steam mplayer.. dunno if you still can , i have no interest in shity games like that one

as for sc2, if it still like this, i will probably wont buy it day of release.. who knows, maybe in month or two , i still hope they will fix a lot of things when they bring down beta servers..
E_minus
Profile Joined July 2009
Russian Federation60 Posts
May 29 2010 23:03 GMT
#318
I'm not buying it.
I'll wait and see how it turns out, but I think I'd rather play bw on iccup.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 29 2010 23:06 GMT
#319
Not for at least a month. When it releases, I won't have much time to play and I'd rather wait and see how things actually develop, and whether the awesome UMS we see are actually usable on Bnet.

If they're not, I'll probably wait till it drops from $60. I'll probably still follow it as competition until then.
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DiTH
Profile Joined March 2010
Greece116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 23:10:44
May 29 2010 23:09 GMT
#320
In its current state no.I cancelled my preorder today and ill just wait for price drop + features added to bnet.WinWin situation for me i had enough of SC2 in beta for my GIFF SC2 now sensation to leave and now looking it calmly i can say im very dissapointed.
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