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zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
May 21 2010 06:12 GMT
#581
I applaud Blizzard for the most meaningful patch this Beta has seen so far. Every change in the right direction, and the Z changes will make the race better, no doubt. Can't wait to see this go live!

"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
May 21 2010 06:13 GMT
#582
This patch sucks bring back patch 11 and start over from there and ffs stop trying to make the ultra usable and just take it out and start over with something new.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
May 21 2010 06:13 GMT
#583
450 Hp ultra = supposedly 1 hit ko death from thor YAY FOR ULTRAS~
RuhRoh is my herO
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
May 21 2010 06:14 GMT
#584
On May 21 2010 14:38 TheDna wrote:
Well some of you obviously must have overread the most important change this patch:

Facebook feature is integrated: Here’s a quick way to expand your social network by seeing who among your existing Facebook friends also has a Battle.net account.


I mean how could you possibly be unhappy with this great feature already being in the Beta?!
You guys are haters!


Now all my internet friends will know I play Blizzard games when I'm off work. :0
There's no S in KT. :P
Attica
Profile Joined February 2010
United States277 Posts
May 21 2010 06:14 GMT
#585
Even with reading all these ultralisk changes I still can't see myself choosing them over Broodlords. What does an ultralisk do that a broodlord cannot? Broodlords own marauders and siege tanks even better than ultralisks so again why would I get them over broodlords?
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
May 21 2010 06:14 GMT
#586
Hah massive units walking over FFs I totally called this one! (well, for ultras I did). More terran upgrade cheapened, I like. They even touched Void Rays, didn't expect that.

The one thing that is baffling are the new spells on the overseer. I mean, holy crap on such a fast flying unit! A bunch of them can fly into your base, disable some of your buildings, rinse and repeat? Very curious how that will turn out..
here i am
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
May 21 2010 06:15 GMT
#587
I like how Colossus were made unable to walk over forcefield, but now just break them.
P⊧[1]<a>[2]<a>[3]<a>tt | P ≝ 1.a.2.a.3.a.P
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
May 21 2010 06:15 GMT
#588
On May 21 2010 15:14 Attica wrote:
Even with reading all these ultralisk changes I still can't see myself choosing them over Broodlords. What does an ultralisk do that a broodlord cannot? Broodlords own marauders and siege tanks even better than ultralisks so again why would I get them over broodlords?


shhh

Blizzard might nerf brood lords again if they hear you.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
rbkl
Profile Joined March 2010
772 Posts
May 21 2010 06:16 GMT
#589
Fixx the roach situationnnn
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Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
May 21 2010 06:18 GMT
#590
On May 21 2010 15:15 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 15:14 Attica wrote:
Even with reading all these ultralisk changes I still can't see myself choosing them over Broodlords. What does an ultralisk do that a broodlord cannot? Broodlords own marauders and siege tanks even better than ultralisks so again why would I get them over broodlords?


shhh

Blizzard might nerf brood lords again if they hear you.


i pray every night that blizzard doesn't actually listen to the community cos if they do, this game is going to be really stupid. NERF FUCKING EVERYTHING. that's the message blizzard is getting if they read this messageboard.
payed off security
Avid221
Profile Joined March 2010
United States63 Posts
May 21 2010 06:20 GMT
#591
On May 21 2010 15:04 Actinium wrote:
I'm not really a fan of the zerg changes. It's dumb to complain about things before I've ever even used them but I really dont want to use overseers for harassment and I don't want my ultralisks to die 25% faster and I won't want to use frenzy on anything but ultralisks which are the last thing I want to combo with infestors because they're both gas hogs.


Pretty sure the Frenzy ability makes the unit do more damage not take more damage
eelix
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia36 Posts
May 21 2010 06:22 GMT
#592
On May 21 2010 15:20 Avid221 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 15:04 Actinium wrote:
I'm not really a fan of the zerg changes. It's dumb to complain about things before I've ever even used them but I really dont want to use overseers for harassment and I don't want my ultralisks to die 25% faster and I won't want to use frenzy on anything but ultralisks which are the last thing I want to combo with infestors because they're both gas hogs.


Pretty sure the Frenzy ability makes the unit do more damage not take more damage

I am pretty sure he was refering to the 600hp to 450hp change, ie 25%...
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 06:25:57
May 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#593
On May 21 2010 15:11 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 15:07 AmstAff wrote:
On May 21 2010 15:00 Zelniq wrote:
On May 21 2010 14:55 blabber wrote:
can't believe they didn't do anything about the ridiculousness of siege tanks... and instead BUFFED Terran. Wow

this is a relatively recent trend of terrans, and blizzard's patches are always a couple weeks behind. i expect them to address it in either the next patch..or the following one which is likely after the beta comes back online >_<


what or why do you want to nerf the tank? its just "ok". 3 supply 125/125. yes if you let get a terran 20 tanks sieged and covered with marines in bunk in a good position you are really fucked but thats the way. if he isnt sieged or has less support units chargelots/blink/colossi/void ray rape them.

imo siege tank is equivalent to the colossi or broodlord. a strong damagedealer that can be countered easily if it has no support or if it doenst hit critical mass.

Tanks aren't really so much of a problem in TvP as in TvZ. There's no way to "stop" a Terran from getting 20 siege tanks if he wants to. What are you going to do, say "no mech kk" ?


ah i didnt saw that he has a guard icon ( 8AM for me with no sleep =( ).
yeah T mech is really strong, like T mech in sc1, i think this problems will be fixed with "balanced" maps. actually the maps are really small or at least the "fight areas" are small and force the Z to suicide his army into the Mechball (caused by bad positiong, but this is cause by the maps).

Nydus and drops are underused btw, the zergs i play are still used to this "1a" hydra/roach and just reproduce with the same units.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
May 21 2010 06:26 GMT
#594
I wonder if frenzy will be useful on banelings...
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 21 2010 06:27 GMT
#595
On May 21 2010 12:09 Kraz.Del wrote:
This Ultralisk should be able to deal with both mass Marauders and mass Roaches which are a common threat to zerg players in some end game scenarios.

WTF blizzard. First they say infestors neural parasite ultralisks, which ppl tell me was a typo, now apparently roaches were also a problem to the ultralisk.

What games are blizzard watching that involve ultralisks in a zvz.
( ・´ー・`)
Wi)nD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada719 Posts
May 21 2010 06:29 GMT
#596
so no1 knows when this patch will come into effect

and like some1 posted above, bring back the roach :D
IrVeNoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland61 Posts
May 21 2010 06:29 GMT
#597
This patch smells like warcraft 3 ... Frenzy spell ... so I guess Zerg is the new undead in space ...I'm sad ;(
W.A.M
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
May 21 2010 06:30 GMT
#598
I play Terran and think the Roach nerf was unwarranted.

Blizzard should probably increase the Roach's initial armor back to 2 and bring back their high regeneration ability in the un-burrowed state.
Sealteam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia296 Posts
May 21 2010 06:34 GMT
#599
Ultras will not get to the enemy 25% sooner and not deal 10 more damage to marauders when they don't reach them.

The problem against T wasn't walking over forcefields, it was dying before getting close.

Against P this is good.

I still don't see a single one being built...
weltraumMonster
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany62 Posts
May 21 2010 06:40 GMT
#600
Zergling all in is now more powerfull again against protoss.
Before the patch a zergling all in pretty much ended when the first collossus came out.
But now with the new Overseer ability you can delay the collossus to give your lings more time...
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