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Perfect Balance
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 11:51:39
May 20 2010 11:50 GMT
#361
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.

The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.

Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..

As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us..
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Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
May 20 2010 12:14 GMT
#362
On May 20 2010 20:50 Perfect Balance wrote:
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.

The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.

Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..

As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us..


Disable the word filter??
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 20 2010 12:28 GMT
#363
There used to be a vanity pet in WoW called the maine coon, named after the actual type of cat called a maine coon, because it was a maine coon. Blizzard and their Super Lawyer Buddies Extravaganza team thought it was inappropriate so they changed it.

It's minor, but it's completely asinine nonetheless.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 20 2010 12:55 GMT
#364
Blizzard has to draw the line somewhere, and honestly, I don't mind if Dopeman is out of bounds- it's mildly offensive, but is also a pretty shitty nickname. If stricter enforcing of naming policy will weed out more names that make my eyes bleed, I'm all for raising the quality bar on nicknames.
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Rickilicious
Profile Joined July 2009
United States220 Posts
May 20 2010 13:01 GMT
#365
On May 20 2010 20:50 Perfect Balance wrote:
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.

The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.

Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..

As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us..



slut means end in swedish?! wow I'm gonna use so many shitty jokes with that.



but on topic, it's kinda ridiculous, and I wish they would draw the line somewhere, but I bet activision has say in it, not just blizzard, because, HAVE YOU SEEN THE NIGHT ELF DANCE, zomg horny movements lolz.
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gedassan
Profile Joined March 2010
Lithuania83 Posts
May 20 2010 14:19 GMT
#366
On May 20 2010 20:50 Perfect Balance wrote:
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.

The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.

Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..

As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us..


Yes, this is bad design. They are totally not thinking about the rest of the world in this case.
Although you and your friend do have a workaround in turning off the profanity filter.
The way is made clear when viewed from above.
raz`
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom33 Posts
May 20 2010 14:21 GMT
#367
132 voted yes, is this some kind of sick joke?
gedassan
Profile Joined March 2010
Lithuania83 Posts
May 20 2010 14:33 GMT
#368
On May 20 2010 10:21 morimacil wrote:
Its not really about whether you find it offensive or not.
Its more about if its appropriate or not.
I guess none of you are parents, most people here must be teenagers. So yeah, you probably smoke weed, and dont find names like "dopeman" offensive. To be honest, neither do I, but thats not the point.
The point is, that when the game is rated for 12 and above, as parents or as a company, you just dont really want the 12 year old kid to log in, and then face off against "dopeman.dopeman", "crack.addic7ed", "mein.kampf", "gay.fucker", and all that good stuff that people some up with for names when there is no moderation.
Now sure, you might not find the name "dopeman" offensive. And for example, a nazi wouldnt find the name "mein.kampf" offensive. And I suspect that drug users wont find the name "crack.addic7ed" to be offensive.
But they are still inappropriate. And 12 year old kids still shouldnt be seeing that kind of stuff when they log on to battle.net.
The question is not whether you as a teenager find the name offensive, the question is whether its an appropriate name for a 12 year old kid to see.

Seriously, how hard can it be to come up with a name that isnt a reference to drugs, sex, or an insult?


You make a lot of assumptions about the posters here - I can assure you they are not correct.

Sure there are teenagers here, but there are also grown up people who do not rely on a game rating (teen) to save their kids from foul language.
This system encourages kids learning about drugs, sex and insults. You can use a (seemingly) common word and get it censored out/banned/warned for it. Naturally you will go and check it out.

You also make an assumption that marijuana = dope. There is a world of difference between those two. Sure, I don't want to see a lot of
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"mein.kampf", "gay.fucker"


However, "dopeman.dopeman" says absolutely nothing about drugs to a person who doesn't know that meaning. They will never know what it means, unless they actively pursue the knowledge outside of the game experience.

I am simply saying that Blizzard should ban words that have a single direct meaning - but should not ban normal words that may mean something in slang. It is counterproductive.

Of course that is assuming they are not just doing a half-assed attempt at reaching a particular rating by implementing a half-assed system and not caring about the results it produces.





The way is made clear when viewed from above.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 16:04:08
May 20 2010 16:03 GMT
#369
On May 20 2010 05:29 omg.deus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 05:06 travis wrote:
On May 20 2010 05:02 omg.deus wrote:
Why do I see everyone associate dope with weed...where I'm from dope is heroine and the only people who think dope is marijuana are old people like my parents. The first time my dad found a joint in my car he ran in the house holding it screaming, "are you smoking dope son!?" I burst out laughing...who the hell calls marijuana dope?!


it just means drugs
and most people don't hang out with many people who do heroin
so they wouldn't be using it to mean something other than marijuana


totally wrong...dope doesn't mean just drugs...it was slang for weed decades ago and nowadays exclusively refers to heroine. doesn't matter if u hang out with heroine users or not, it's irrelevant...unless ur sheltered or grew up in the 60s u know dope as heroine and heroine only.

b/c of this I can see why blizzard doesn't want any heroine related user names

EDIT: did some research and I guess there are some places like Kansas where heroine isn't around so people say dope to refer to crystal meth. Still, I found that the vast majority of people thought as I did that dope only refers to heroine.


way to tell me I am totally wrong when you are posting with no clue whatsoever.

I am not totally wrong. You are totally wrong. Look the word up in a fuckin' dictionary. Christ.

How your friends use the words isn't relevant. People use words differently all over. Especially slang. But the word does have an actual definition.
sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
May 20 2010 16:17 GMT
#370
looks like jaedong will have to use another name
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 16:19:13
May 20 2010 16:18 GMT
#371
On May 20 2010 10:21 morimacil wrote:
Its not really about whether you find it offensive or not.
Its more about if its appropriate or not.
I guess none of you are parents, most people here must be teenagers. So yeah, you probably smoke weed, and dont find names like "dopeman" offensive. To be honest, neither do I, but thats not the point.
The point is, that when the game is rated for 12 and above, as parents or as a company, you just dont really want the 12 year old kid to log in, and then face off against "dopeman.dopeman", "crack.addic7ed", "mein.kampf", "gay.fucker", and all that good stuff that people some up with for names when there is no moderation.
Now sure, you might not find the name "dopeman" offensive. And for example, a nazi wouldnt find the name "mein.kampf" offensive. And I suspect that drug users wont find the name "crack.addic7ed" to be offensive.
But they are still inappropriate. And 12 year old kids still shouldnt be seeing that kind of stuff when they log on to battle.net.
The question is not whether you as a teenager find the name offensive, the question is whether its an appropriate name for a 12 year old kid to see.

Seriously, how hard can it be to come up with a name that isnt a reference to drugs, sex, or an insult?


I put the responsibility of raising my daughter in my hands.

This means that everything I allow her to do is my responsibility.

If I allow her to play a game that's multiplayer then it's pretty safe to assume that the rating is an automatic M. You could try to pass off SC2 as a teen rated game I suppose and then find yourself amused as you watch a collossus burn a marine to a husk...you know with burning corpse and everything.

A 12 year old is no longer shielded for society unless you have home schooled the poor kid. They've already heard all of that and more in middle school. I am already more than aware of what people on the internet are prone to saying. I mean really, people are much more likely to say things they normally wouldn't due to the anonymity of the internet.

Again what your kid sees or doesn't see should rest on the parents, period. It shouldn't be on the shoulders of the company or the TV..or the school.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
slowmanrunning
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada285 Posts
May 20 2010 16:21 GMT
#372
On May 19 2010 06:56 afg-warrior wrote:
my online name is afghan madman....am i in danger???



oh lord... you don't have long
I aim to become a hydralisk and then stop posting, cause I don't wanna be a queen...
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
May 20 2010 16:31 GMT
#373
Better not get Stimpack as your name.
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Beatus
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada101 Posts
May 20 2010 16:38 GMT
#374
Well it's a beta and like other people already said I am sure they would have made you change your name if it was the actual game.

That said I think it's a good idea to ban/give name change to names like that even if I don't think "Dopeman" is that bad..
?
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 20 2010 16:42 GMT
#375
On May 21 2010 01:31 Nyxs wrote:
Better not get Stimpack as your name.


This reminds me that marines use drugs and at the same time Blizzard restrict nicks which mean drugs. Nice one Blizzard. ^^
iounas
Profile Joined July 2008
409 Posts
May 20 2010 16:46 GMT
#376
On May 20 2010 23:19 gedassan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 20:50 Perfect Balance wrote:
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.

The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.

Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..

As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us..


Yes, this is bad design. They are totally not thinking about the rest of the world in this case.
Although you and your friend do have a workaround in turning off the profanity filter.

ha, that is terrible..
I remember some online game that had a filter with words from many languages and if there is a single word from filter in a sentence it wouldnt even show..
So I sit there trying to chat with a friend in my language and chat wasnt showing up.. Changing some words and trying to figure out what was going on and the game banned me from chatting..
That is hilarious.. How stupid do you have to be to make a system like that when some basic words mean something else in another language..
IdrA: stalkers actually do negative damage. when you shoot a marine with a stalker it gains health.
iounas
Profile Joined July 2008
409 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 17:01:55
May 20 2010 17:00 GMT
#377
On May 20 2010 20:50 Perfect Balance wrote:
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.

The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.

Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..

As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us..

Why is lust filtered? Why is white and black filtered?
Anything with "trans"? Wtf? Cant say transfusion, transport, transform, transparent...or anything from here http://www.morewords.com/contains/trans/

Seriously this shit doesnt make any sense..
What is next? I find mondays, december and letter "v" offensive.. ban that..

Terrible terrible system..
IdrA: stalkers actually do negative damage. when you shoot a marine with a stalker it gains health.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
May 20 2010 17:09 GMT
#378
I like the system. Turn off the chat filter if it bothers you and it keeps 12 year olds from having retarded names.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 20 2010 17:15 GMT
#379
On May 20 2010 22:01 Rickilicious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 20:50 Perfect Balance wrote:
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.

The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.

Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..

As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us..



slut means end in swedish?! wow I'm gonna use so many shitty jokes with that.



but on topic, it's kinda ridiculous, and I wish they would draw the line somewhere, but I bet activision has say in it, not just blizzard, because, HAVE YOU SEEN THE NIGHT ELF DANCE, zomg horny movements lolz.

"Out of minerals" = "Slut på mineraler"

Yeah, english word filters - by default - on a product meant for international use is fun It shouldn't even be there in the first place, certainly not as a default.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32149 Posts
May 20 2010 17:20 GMT
#380
This is basically just a challenge for all you suckers to get a little original and come up with something really offensive that passes the filter. GOD FORBID YOU USE YOUR LITTLE CORRUPT MINDS
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