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On May 21 2010 06:53 Risu wrote:
What I said was just to point out the differences of "Dopeman" and "Speedman". Dopeman is a bad name choice however way you look at it. I don't know how you would justify calling yourself Dopeman, it is not a funny or creative name by any stretch of the immagination and thinking for a second before he made that name would of stopped him getting banned.
ID's aren't for being funny or creative. Their only function is to tell people apart from other people. Dopeman works fine.
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Blizzard doesn't let me get name "beetlejuice" I can't even get to identifier section of account creation.
I made a topic on general forum of starcraft 2 b.net. No blue post replied.
I asked them if it's filtered by language/profanity filter.
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the degree of censorship is both ridiculous and hypocritical...stim has a picture of a syringe with rines going "aaaah thats the stuff" while becoming faster and stronger.... to me that is going to make a child more curious about drugs than a username as mild as "dopeman"
edit: maybe I should write to blizzard and suggest that instead of stimming, marines and mauraders chug red bulls or energy drinks to move and shoot faster...that would probably make the game more successful since it will offend less people right?
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yeah what about stims. lets mail blizzard!!!
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Its a fine policy. And it's fairly irrelevant as to what we decide as a community because the fact that the policy exists isn't going to harm the demand for their game by much, if at all. They make their game more "compatible" for all ages which is probably a bigger target group than the people who will "Not play SC2 on principal because it won't let them have drug references, etc" in their name. Honestly, I don't really find Dopeman offensive, and its probably a stretch on their policy. But their policy is in their best interests, so its probably never going to change.
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the vary next game i played after reading this thread was against an opponent call jewgasser. guess they slipped through.
might as well chime in i guess.
so in this game i can
-burn people alive
-use a needle full of stim making the marines say "ahhh" when you do it.
-play a religious zealots that kill others for their god.
but you can't say dope?
dope is also slang for cool or hip.
on the other hand maybe blizzard is just testing the beta to see if banning is bugged.
i would have to say that there ToS is messed up. they have taken away lan so we can't play as dopeman at home. they wont let us play as dopeman in asia or russia (iccup) where it is not considered offensive either.
by my 5th game playing the beta i had to turned the chat censer off because i could never tell what anyone was saying when i played.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
I read through all the posts, and some were really funny ('BigNickDigger' really made me laugh, I'm so going to use that one :D).
Offensive nicknames should be censored, I agree.
But who determines what's 'offensive'? Offensive to whom?
And what about ambiguous nicknames, such as 'BenDover' or 'FagotSlayer'. Would you ban those names on BNet 2.0?
Speaking from my experience, part of the fun in WC3 is trash talk because, when it happens, it makes the game personal. You're no longer playing to merely win, you're out to get revenge. Censoring trash-talk makes the game feel sterile. And again, who gets to determine what is 'trash-talk'?
Now, I've seen this line
It's a privilege, not a right
several times in this thread and elsewhere and I think it deserves to be explained properly.
I'll be concise, I promise :D
Everything revolves around property.
You either own something and you have rights (permanent and inherent) or you are a limited-access user and you have privileges (temporary and granted).
Now read section 8b at this link:
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html?rhtml=y
(go on, I'll wait :D)
Who owns your account?
Blizzard.
Do you have any rights?
Nope.
But, but, but I bought the game...?
Nope.
But, but, but, this isn't fair...
Nope.
That section is quite common in every EULA, but in SC2's case, you can't opt-out of BNet 2.0 - it comes bundled with SC2, and thus EULA becomes enforceable on you, whereas before that was not possible.
If you buy SC2, you must use the 'Service', you must make a nickname that adheres to Blizzard's vague naming conventions, you must consent to your chat being monitored and/or recorded (same link, section 11e), you cannot make more than one account per CD-key and you cannot use the game offline if your CD-key gets banned, in which case your SC2 DVD becomes a 60$ frisbee. Oh, and there are other restrictions. Sounds fun, doesn't it? :D
SC2's BNet 2.0 is the wet dream of every DRM advocate.
In conclusion, I will not buy SC2, and there are many reasons for that, but the foremost is, when I saw the gameplay videos, I deeply felt that this isn't it, this has nothing to do with StarCraft, and that Blizzard has become a faceless corporation and uses the familiar name of StarCraft to lure you into the depths and do with you as it wills.
P.S. Maybe I went overboard with the end, but I wanted a dramatic finish :D
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On May 20 2010 01:25 iCCup.Nove wrote:
Another problem that no one seemed to address is where should blizzard then draw the line if they allowed names such as dopeman to exist? It's obvious names such as fuck.you or any racial slurs deserved to be banned. The policy may be strict but that's the way I think it should be. Not because they are trying to 'keep the children safe' or maintain face but because people online will CONSTANTLY push the boundaries of any rules that you set.
If dopeman is ok shouldn't drugman be ok? Drugman may not even refer to illegal drugs it could be a name someone who works in a pharmacy likes. Rxman in my opinion is an acceptable ID to have while Drugman is not.
Give someone an inch and they'll take a whole mile.
The questioning of such language censors on a game with 'killing' and 'light drug usage' is a strong argument to have but as I previously stated they have to draw the line somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if there was cursing during the campaign. Such as Raynor saying 'Damn'. This however doesn't mean that Damn.Damn is an appropriate name to have.
It's wrong that they banned you from beta and it's likely that instead of banning you post release you'll probably get notified of a name change.
And as I previously stated, you probably fucked up somewhere and BMed the wrong person who then reported you. Blizzard isn't just looking for excuses to ban people from their beta.
StimPack
The newest versions of the Marine Powered Combat Suit and Firebat Heavy Combat Suit feature an in-field chemical delivery system filled with a powerful mixture of synthetic adrenaline and endorphins coupled with a powerful psychotropic aggression amplifier. When activated, the StimPack provides the user with greatly increased speed and reflexes. Some tissue damage may result. Side effects including insomnia, weight loss, tremors, grand mal seizures, mania/hypomania, paranoiac hallucinations, severe internal hemorrhaging and cerebral deterioration have all been declared nominal and well within Confederate acceptable safety margins.
(Starcraft instructions manual)
Thank goodness that evil Dopeman never got the chance to give the poor marines any of his heavy stuff.
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On May 22 2010 12:41 greendestiny wrote:
That section is quite common in every EULA, but in SC2's case, you can't opt-out of BNet 2.0 - it comes bundled with SC2, and thus EULA becomes enforceable on you, whereas before that was not possible.
If you buy SC2, you must use the 'Service', you must make a nickname that adheres to Blizzard's vague naming conventions, you must consent to your chat being monitored and/or recorded (same link, section 11e), you cannot make more than one account per CD-key and you cannot use the game offline if your CD-key gets banned, in which case your SC2 DVD becomes a 60$ frisbee. Oh, and there are other restrictions. Sounds fun, doesn't it? :D
SC2's BNet 2.0 is the wet dream of every DRM advocate.
In conclusion, I will not buy SC2, and there are many reasons for that, but the foremost is, when I saw the gameplay videos, I deeply felt that this isn't it, this has nothing to do with StarCraft, and that Blizzard has become a faceless corporation and uses the familiar name of StarCraft to lure you into the depths and do with you as it wills.
P.S. Maybe I went overboard with the end, but I wanted a dramatic finish :D
i guess the only thing we can do is submit to blizzards governess in this situation and us our CD keys as our name. it is the only safe name to use.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:38 xylon wrote:
i guess the only thing we can do is submit to blizzards governess in this situation and us our CD keys as our name. it is the only safe name to use.
Nice try, however, if WoW's naming restrictions apply, you can't have a 'gibberish' name. Even if you decided to suck up to Blizzard and make an account named 'iloveyoublizzard', you can still get into trouble because Blizzard is the name of a company, and again, that's prohibited under WoW naming rules :D
My idea is to provide you with information that will help you understand how this works, and there is a really good reason why EULAs aren't written in plain english, but in a language that uses similar words but gives them a different meaning, and that is called legalese, the language of the law society.
Bill Clinton said:
It depends on what your definition of the word 'is' is
and people laughed, but that right there is legalese. Every single word is redefined, the words need not mean what you think they mean, and the total result may shock you.
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Pagan is offensive cant understand why 
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I saw a guy called analprobe, yet he seemed to slip by just fine :/ . The censoring system really needs work.
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I used the ID Sieg.heil last patch, and I even had a guy in my division named MeinFuhrer. We managed okay thankfully :D
But yeah, I really don't think Blizzard is too serious about this, OP was just unlucky enough to be chosen and made an example of. It's likely that this thread is only bringing the attention towards the warning that Blizzard made, which is exactly what they wanted to achieve. Hell, it may even have made matters worse, as now there's quite a few posts in here, reactivating the OP's account would only be an admittance that they were wrong and we are right, which would encourage more borderline names.
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wow, they replied?
and they gave an awesome response, too. love it. 
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I was a mod on a big MMO and i found in this situation it was much better to ask them to change the name than outright ban. Most were very understanding that someone had complained and that we were bound by our own rules. Strange that they didnt even give you that chance, maybe bnet doesn't easily enable them to force a name change. Saving embarrassment by a ban maybe?
As an aside nobody seems to care what your nick is in the FPS's ive played are they more relaxed or are MMOs/RTSs more uptight.
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On May 20 2010 20:50 Perfect Balance wrote:
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.
The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.
Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..
As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us..
Why don't you disable the chat filter?
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On May 24 2010 07:29 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 20:50 Perfect Balance wrote:
Their new policies are quite ridiculous.
The word "lust" means "want" in swedish, so every time I ask a friend if he wants to play a game I'm forced to write: "Do you have the intention to enter a game?" It's really annoying.
Then, if I want to end something, I can't even write "slut", which means "end" in swedish..
As you can imagine, starting and stopping games is quite a challenge for us.. Why don't you disable the chat filter?
But shouldnt chat filters be language specific? I am so glad we are being protected from such evil words as "lust" though. Though I am going to remember the Swedish for slut for future reference :D.
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On May 22 2010 12:41 greendestiny wrote:
And what about ambiguous nicknames, such as 'BenDover' or 'FagotSlayer'. Would you ban those names on BNet 2.0?
BenDover, no
FagotSlayer, yes
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You think that's bad? They won't even let me use "hunter", probably because it's close to something else.
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the word "fuca" is censored. They went way way overboard with their censoring. They must be using some ridiculous dictionary.
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