EPT@Maniac I have a lycosa but haven't thought of anything cool to do with it, how about posting some of your cool ideas? ^^
Anyone Using Razer Naga for Starcraft 2? - Page 3
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Australia156 Posts
@Maniac I have a lycosa but haven't thought of anything cool to do with it, how about posting some of your cool ideas? ^^ | ||
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
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Nakas
United States148 Posts
On May 17 2010 10:18 ManiacTheZealot wrote: How well does this work for you? Do you see it as being faster and more comfortable then a regular keyboard? I've always looked at these keypads wondering if I could make good use out of them but I have never bought one. I like it a lot, I certainly find it more comfortable and convenient. Speed-wise, I think it's faster overall. Accessing a 1 to 5 control group might be a touch slower due to requiring a modifier key, but not by much. It's like the speed difference between pressing '5' and 'ctrl-5', except the modifier keys on the n52 are much better placed (they're placed at the thumb). But this is offset by the fact that my fingers aren't moving around as much, not even up two rows to reach the number keys. For instance, if I need control group 0 to use an ability in the 'z' box, it's just 'modifier-g, z', rather than '0,z' which I think is a lot slower. It gets really fast when control group binds and actions fall on the same key, for example, I bind all my hatcheries to control group 1, so accessing my hatch, selecting larvae, and spawning drones from them is just 'modifier-q,q,q'. You know, after writing this post I looked at how I set this up and realized that in the end I didn't use any of the special Nostromo modifier functions, but instead did it by just remapping hotkeys in the .mpq files using the program posted on these forums. That means you could probably do a similar setup with a standard keyboard by changing the "recall control group x", "set control group x", and "append control group x" hotkeys to 'alt-(letter)', 'ctrl-(letter)', and 'shift-(letter)', respectively. I don't see this being as good as a Nostromo though, since the Nostromo has all the modifier buttons placed nicely on the thumb. | ||
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Perkster
United States5 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.musicorner.nl/pics/Razer%20Naga%202.jpg) It looks like a mouse phone to me.. | ||
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Nutshell
United States41 Posts
On May 17 2010 10:13 ManiacTheZealot wrote: This. I'm like you I don't use past 5 but not because I can't hit them instead because its tough to bind them. Pressing control and hitting 6 to 0 stresses my hands a bit to much. I don't care how fast anyone thinks they are at hitting control + 9, but I guarantee you someone with as much practice as you with "9" bound to a mouse key would be faster. | ||
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
On May 17 2010 13:38 Nakas wrote: I like it a lot, I certainly find it more comfortable and convenient. Speed-wise, I think it's faster overall. Accessing a 1 to 5 control group might be a touch slower due to requiring a modifier key, but not by much. It's like the speed difference between pressing '5' and 'ctrl-5', except the modifier keys on the n52 are much better placed (they're placed at the thumb). But this is offset by the fact that my fingers aren't moving around as much, not even up two rows to reach the number keys. For instance, if I need control group 0 to use an ability in the 'z' box, it's just 'modifier-g, z', rather than '0,z' which I think is a lot slower. It gets really fast when control group binds and actions fall on the same key, for example, I bind all my hatcheries to control group 1, so accessing my hatch, selecting larvae, and spawning drones from them is just 'modifier-q,q,q'. You know, after writing this post I looked at how I set this up and realized that in the end I didn't use any of the special Nostromo modifier functions, but instead did it by just remapping hotkeys in the .mpq files using the program posted on these forums. That means you could probably do a similar setup with a standard keyboard by changing the "recall control group x", "set control group x", and "append control group x" hotkeys to 'alt-(letter)', 'ctrl-(letter)', and 'shift-(letter)', respectively. I don't see this being as good as a Nostromo though, since the Nostromo has all the modifier buttons placed nicely on the thumb. Cool thx for the info. I'm definitely tempted to get one just to try it out. | ||
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D-Lite
United Kingdom223 Posts
On May 16 2010 14:17 kzn wrote: i am still amazed that people can use the naga at all i honestly thought it was a joke the first time I saw it it looks like an early generation mobile phone without a screen i use the steel series wow mouse before i get RTS nerd raged, i thought it would make my competative arena play better....it didnt pros it stops paper from flying off my desk when the window is open cons cant change the lights on windows7 64bit too big and bulky buttons aint responsive buttons aint in the right place too many buttons to actually use cant change the DPI in windows7 without custom drivers the "d-pad" on it is a joke overall the mouse is a joke | ||
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EnderW
United States170 Posts
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Nakas
United States148 Posts
On May 18 2010 00:42 EnderW wrote: Edit: I also have a Nostromo n52, but i haven't got around to using it yet because i don't know how to set it up. If anyone uses this and would be kind enough to PM me to help me get it set up I would love you forever :D I'll make a new thread detailing my exact Nostromo setup when I get the chance, rather than continuing to hijack this thread on the Naga. | ||
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Izslove
Australia69 Posts
I play using the Naga it's revolutionary to my game. 6 - CC 7 - Rax w/ techlabs 8 - Factory/s 9 - Starport/s 10 - changes game to game. I've kinda considered it.. But I don't think I will ever do it. Set up a g-15 macro to hit 6 then S and set it to loop every 17 seconds. Though if I ever did that it would feel like cheating due to never ever having to remember to build an SCV again. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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DorF
Sweden961 Posts
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
Pretty much EVERYTHING you want to do in SC2 is a clutch move, so I haven't intentionally bound anything to it at all, nor tried to make use of it. I'm quite comfortable with 1-7 on the keyboard. The design is very comfortable, though. I'd definitely recommend one of the similarly-designed Razor mice if you haven't got one. | ||
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Stoles
Turkey53 Posts
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Prem_
United States85 Posts
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DeadMaus
United States3 Posts
On May 16 2010 14:02 Nutshell wrote: 1. How easy is it to bind the naga buttons to anything you want through provided drivers? I'm not sure if this is exactly how I would do it, but for example, could I bind the "3", "6", "9" and "12" side keys to 6 7 8 9 respectively? In the videos on their site, it says they have addons for games like world of warcraft which allow you to bind the buttons in game, but I assume the windows drivers it comes with will allow you to bind the buttons universally. 2. Assuming the above is possible, would I run into problems if i ever wanted to compete in a LAN tournament? I'm not sure what the commonly accepted rules are for bringing your own mouse and drivers to a tournament. I realize rules may be different depending on the host. 1) Extremely easy. The mouse buttons on the left side can be recognized as either your top rows of number keys above QWERTY (0 - 9, - , =). Or it can be recognized as 0 - 9, . , - , and + on your number pad. All you have to do to change how your computer recognizes the buttons on the side of your mouse is to flip a switch on the bottom of the mouse. 2) I have never competed or been to a tournament but I would think that they would let you. Again, this is a total guess coming from a guy who has never been near a tournament before. | ||
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
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sinisterpink
Japan1 Post
The fact of razer naga is it reduces the amount of key presses your left hand has to make by allowing you to spread the load of control groups (and anything else you want to remap) to your right. Physically it can be a lot easier on your hands, but some people are going to encounter steeper learning curves than others obviously because it takes time to adjust to using your thumb so much on the naga. For me I've had a history with cramping after playing for extended periods of time (particularly with RTS) which has been resolved after switching to the naga. I found learning to use it takes around the same time as learning how to navigate a new cellphone (e.g. switching from a regular cell to a touch smartphone) - and once I got the hang of it, it really flies. Here's a little info on me: Zerg 2v2 platinum standard hotkeys (w/ spacebar for base camera) 1-6 on naga for unit control groups 7,8 on naga for hatcheries, queens respectively 9,10,11 on naga for evo 1, evo 2, and spire (though because I'm far from a good macro player, these often get neglected) One great factor of using the naga is it's grid layout: 3 keys in 4 rows basically. You can organize each row according to how you want to tactically organize groups ingame (which of course can be done with the keyboard, but there is a higher risk for misclicks when your APM starts to climb in battle with the long, single row of control groups). 1st row: main army groups. Last key I generally reserve for infestors. 2nd row: harass groups. Muta or a couple of small ling packs for counters. 3rd row: macro groups - just hatches and queens. 4th row: upgrades So are a couple of neat advantages for using this mouse, however in the end it boils down to your own personal preference and what you are willing to/capable of adapting to. If you have the money and also play the odd MMO/DotA style game occasionally then it's definitely worth it IMHO. Check it out! | ||
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