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On May 13 2010 00:39 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 12:30 Rubyiris wrote:On May 11 2010 11:15 GogoKodo wrote:On May 11 2010 11:10 Rubyiris wrote:
This is a cool idea, but 250$? :\ Ya, that is pretty cheap, they could probably be charging more. How exactly is 250$ cheap? =\ dont worry thats probably incontrols smurf talking ^^ just kidding altho it would be a classic move :D i agree with previous posters on the part that i see absolute no different between copper players to gold. platinum says something at least. this is all gonna be better (hopefully) when sc2 comes out for real
I'm not a smurf 
Though that's probably exactly what a smurf would say.
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just watch youtube vids, VODs, and practice alot. save urself 250 bucks
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iNcontroL
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On May 13 2010 02:01 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
also eat breakfast.
and brush your teeth
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On May 13 2010 02:28 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:And Stay in School! + Show Spoiler +and I D.A.R.E. you to stay off drugs.
To get good? Drop school imo. Like Terran, he got pretty gosu.
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On May 13 2010 02:38 KwarK wrote:To get good? Drop school imo. Like Terran, he got pretty gosu.
lol did he drop out school?
dont wanna go offtopic but what ever happened to gosi terran, once the beta came i heard nothing at all about him
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On May 12 2010 22:44 Tinithor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2010 04:30 Ryuu314 wrote:On May 12 2010 04:10 Ballistixz wrote:
im still so very amazed at people trying to compare coaching to a video game compared to tutoring for being a math major or a professional football/basketball player. its just unbelievable how gullible and stupid people are.
you can make millions being a pro football player during there career and having a math tutor opens so many doors for you to have a successful life. musical tutors is the same, lots of money to be made in the music industry. stop trying to compare it because it is not the same...
the chances of you making any money at all playing starcraft is insanely low. Oh and becoming a pro football player or musician is soooo easy. /end sarcasm Yea, tutoring math or something is much more realistic, I'll give you that. However, exactly how different is this camp from any other "training camp" for sports or music? I've been to soccer camps myself and I can tell you right now I'm nowhere near becoming a soccer pro. Why'd I go then? Because I love soccer and I love playing the sport. People dont' go to these things because they think it'll help them go pro (usually). People go to these thigns because they love the activity and enjoy playing/doing it. Really dude, how much easier do you think becoming a pro sports player or professional musician is than being a pro gamer anyways? Even if you become a pro football player, the chances of you becoming a big name QB is much smaller than simply becoming some no-name defensive lineman. If you use music as an example, you really have no idea how freaking hard it is to actually make a good living off of music. You're either the best (read: yo-yo ma/ itzhak perlman status) or you barely scrape by on music alone. The chances of becoming a successful progamer is pretty much the same as becoming a successful sports player or musician. Except you can actually make a living as a no name defensive lineman. Only the top 10-20 pro gamers in the WORLD ever make enough to even support themselves playing starcraft. (and all of them are in korea) They also work much harder than any other job in the world. What other jobs can you think of where you practice 14+ hours a day in order to make minimal money? Its just a BAD decision to try and do.
not a very good living, though. once your run is over (which is pretty short) you're pretty damn poor if you weren't that famous. or take for example, minor league baseball players. there's no denying they're really good, better than 99% of the population, but they're just not top tier quality and so once their run is over, they fade into obscurity w/out all that much money.
professional musicians do three things throughout the day: eat, sleep, and practice. it's a LOT of work and similarily, only the biggest names ever make a good living off of it. the rest of them have to find another job or give lessons.
i'm not saying going pro for gaming is a good idea. i'm just pointing out that this camp is really not all that different from music and sports camps except for the fact that it's not as culturally accepted in the West.
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On May 13 2010 02:43 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2010 02:38 KwarK wrote:On May 13 2010 02:28 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:And Stay in School! + Show Spoiler +and I D.A.R.E. you to stay off drugs. To get good? Drop school imo. Like Terran, he got pretty gosu. lol did he drop out school? dont wanna go offtopic but what ever happened to gosi terran, once the beta came i heard nothing at all about him
Yeah good question. JUAN WHERE IS YOU?
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If I wasn't a poor college student I would totally jump on this. Sounds awesome.
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On May 13 2010 02:28 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:And Stay in School! + Show Spoiler +and I D.A.R.E. you to stay off drugs.
thats terrible advice for people who want to get good
uppers and dropping out is your only way of going bonjwa.
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shouldnt there be a faq asking what if Beta is closed at the time of the camp?
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On May 13 2010 05:06 anch wrote:
shouldnt there be a faq asking what if Beta is closed at the time of the camp?
probably should be a faq
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On May 13 2010 05:06 anch wrote:
shouldnt there be a faq asking what if Beta is closed at the time of the camp?
Or you could, you know...read the thread where its been answered a few times already
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iNcontroL
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5 people paid and registered, 3 more pending.
We won't be reading over/taking any more applications for this camp but we WILL be doing future camps so if this is something you didn't get in on please be patient, there will be more opportunities.
That being said I am waiting to hear from about 300 more people if they think...
A. The price is reasonable.
B. If this will help at all.
C. If we are qualified to help anyone since we aren't the best ever.
D. If we are exploiting everyone.
E. If Day9 dailies are the equivalent.
I've only heard from 500 people or so on these subjects and I know TL is frequented by 40k people a day or so.. please don't get lazy on this!
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Wow, this thread is full of jealous and angry nerds who just absolutely can`t see how much more FUN (!!) it can be to learn about something you love in a camp atmosphere rather than sitting alone in front of your PC all summer ...
Yes, you can take online SC lessons, yes you can watch replays on your own, yes you can. But, even for a nerd, it can be really FUN to socialize with other nerds, totally immerse yourself in the world you love (SC), and learn something along the way ...
When I was a teenager I was practicing taekwondo (not on any serious level). And our whole group went to a training camp for 2 weeks, near a beautiful lake. We did have 2 training sessions per day but, of course, this camp didn`t make anyone a black belt or anything ... it was just a very FUN break in our summer, where we learned a lot and had a great time and made good friends.
Camps are meant to be FUN. And a little educational. And, yes, all camps cost something. Give these people a break and let`s see how it turns out and what they can make of it ... good luck with the camp.
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(not sure if you was being sarcastic about this or not ... will answer anyway ;p)
A. Seems very reasonable, since it includes room and board.
B. It should.
C.To teach others you need to be a good teacher and like/want to teach, not be the best at the subject matter. Hockey coaches are not ex-superplayers, are they?
D. Lol ... no.
E. No. But you should require your campers to start watching them to make sure they are doing at least something to bring their skill up on their own 
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On May 13 2010 08:15 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
5 people paid and registered, 3 more pending.
Out of curiosity, is that three more applicants you're waiting to hear back from, or three more applicants left to choose?
As for the questions:
A. The price is reasonable.
Yes.
B. If this will help at all.
For 99.9% of people, yes. I suppose if IdrA or someone went it might not help them much.
C. If we are qualified to help anyone since we aren't the best ever.
Yes.
D. If we are exploiting everyone.
No, quite the opposite. After paying for infrastructure (tables, pillows,etc) I have to wonder just how little you'd actually be pocketing.
E. If Day9 dailies are the equivalent.
Nothing is equivalent to in-person training on any thing. Sure a person can better from D9Ds, and in-person training isn't required to improve, but the two can't really be compared.
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A. Yes. The only problem is the travel costs (which you can't control obv.)
B. Yes, not only will it help you a lot with starcraft 2, but the experience should also be really cool.
C. Yes, in fact I think it would actually be possible to help people better than you, for example someone could be really good at macro/micro but lacking in their game sense.
D. Lol.
E. No, Day 9 can't provide personal advice to everyone.
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I'm nowhere near Arizona (more like Rio de Janeiro, Brazil), but I do think this camp will be great.
If I were close, I would attend, but not with a "I gotta learn SC2 at all costs with this thing!" mindset even though I'm a fairly competitive gamer - I just think the opportunity to meet, play, and trade opinions with these guys and many others players is something that make the money and time spent on this camp worth it.
People will definitely leave with great experiences and possibly new friends. To silver-gold players you could also possibly leave the camp playing much better, although I'm not sure if a plat player would benefit as much in terms of increasing skill.
Hope everything goes well to all involved.
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On May 13 2010 03:08 Louder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2010 02:43 MorroW wrote:On May 13 2010 02:38 KwarK wrote:On May 13 2010 02:28 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:And Stay in School! + Show Spoiler +and I D.A.R.E. you to stay off drugs. To get good? Drop school imo. Like Terran, he got pretty gosu. lol did he drop out school? dont wanna go offtopic but what ever happened to gosi terran, once the beta came i heard nothing at all about him Yeah good question. JUAN WHERE IS YOU?
The last I remember of GosiTerran was some thread where he nerd-raged and Chill banned him, he might not be back for a while.
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