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RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
May 12 2010 00:46 GMT
#561
On May 12 2010 09:02 MMMig wrote:
As long as they sound the fire alarm at 2 AM and make all the trainees do 1n1 LT with each other, with the winners allowed to go back to sleep and the losers keep playing until they win.

And film every minute of it...

In their PJs...

It will be a succsses!!


P.S. Someone has to randomly scream out "PLAY-GUUUU!!!" during the entire show.

I lol'd at that. I like the idea though. Winners get to go back to sleep.
VarsityUser
Profile Joined June 2009
United States84 Posts
May 12 2010 00:51 GMT
#562
Guys lets all pay 250 dollars to listen to a full time pizza delivery driver (machine) spew knowledge on how to A click with zerg.

After that you can stare at a wall for 30 minutes before you realize it is actually incontrol talking in his semi-cocky point of view about absolutely nothing. Ever notice how in Ultimate Gamer he got the wallflower card?

Yeah and then you can listen to kelby who should have no short supply of dave/dinos sperm in his mouth talk about how he weighs 145 lbs.
Price: 250 dollars + lodging + food+ drinks + boredom
If its not too much to ask, I'd like my stats returned. I feel I deserve them - Combat-EX
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45351 Posts
May 12 2010 00:51 GMT
#563
On May 12 2010 09:15 VarsityUser wrote:
The last two times I've seen the word "revamping":

On an infomercial for a shitty product, and on a forum for a shitty product.

I'll train anyone who PM's me for less than 12/hr@ paypal. I know for a fact I'm better than several of the players "Coaching" this 'camp'. I just got the beta last week and and constantly reviewing all current tournament, league, and various other replays for strategic influence. I play protoss and terran and can probably teach zerg up to a 1700~ish rating.

I'll be making a forum later but PM if interested. Don't waste your hard earned money on traveling to someone elses comfort zone to let them take use of you. All the training you need can be done via a schedule of playing, reviewing replays, and analyzing deep traits in your game.


This camp's training session alone is for 9 hours a day, over the course of 3 days. That's 27 hours of hardcore SC2 training. That means that even without room and board and food being factored in to the $250 cost, these guys are charging less than $10/hour on strategy alone. So you're actually charging more than they are.

Plus, nobody knows who you are, whereas these guys actually have a reputation for being good. Of course, advertising your own business isn't a bad thing, but you don't need to hijack this thread to do it.

Make your own thread, that way people can troll there and annoy the hell out of you too ;-)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 00:57:06
May 12 2010 00:54 GMT
#564
On May 12 2010 09:51 VarsityUser wrote:
Guys lets all pay 250 dollars to listen to a full time pizza delivery driver (machine) spew knowledge on how to A click with zerg.

After that you can stare at a wall for 30 minutes before you realize it is actually incontrol talking in his semi-cocky point of view about absolutely nothing. Ever notice how in Ultimate Gamer he got the wallflower card?

Yeah and then you can listen to kelby who should have no short supply of dave/dinos sperm in his mouth talk about how he weighs 145 lbs.
Price: 250 dollars + lodging + food+ drinks + boredom


Admins, can you warn him or put a temp ban on him for douchebaggery?

I don't know if I'm allowed to ask you guys to ban people (sorry if it's against the rules- I looked and didn't see anything against it), but he's a really crappy troll who's clearly being malicious for no reason.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
May 12 2010 01:21 GMT
#565
On May 12 2010 09:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 09:51 VarsityUser wrote:
Guys lets all pay 250 dollars to listen to a full time pizza delivery driver (machine) spew knowledge on how to A click with zerg.

After that you can stare at a wall for 30 minutes before you realize it is actually incontrol talking in his semi-cocky point of view about absolutely nothing. Ever notice how in Ultimate Gamer he got the wallflower card?

Yeah and then you can listen to kelby who should have no short supply of dave/dinos sperm in his mouth talk about how he weighs 145 lbs.
Price: 250 dollars + lodging + food+ drinks + boredom


Admins, can you warn him or put a temp ban on him for douchebaggery?

I don't know if I'm allowed to ask you guys to ban people (sorry if it's against the rules- I looked and didn't see anything against it), but he's a really crappy troll who's clearly being malicious for no reason.

While not exactly your wish it's in the same veign with a dash of lol http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124873
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
May 12 2010 01:24 GMT
#566

Incontrol and the others created this place having in mind it would stir up a discussion about the gain of taking lessons. Sure they might lose some potential costumers, but the others who still take lessons will probably be encouraged to take more lessons. This because they will probably have even more faith in the words of incontrol when he is able to defend their arguments on this topic.


**mind explosion**

fucking Scandinavians and their cheap university, being all smart and shit.
8===D~~
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 01:27:12
May 12 2010 01:25 GMT
#567
On May 12 2010 10:21 sword_siege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 09:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 12 2010 09:51 VarsityUser wrote:
Guys lets all pay 250 dollars to listen to a full time pizza delivery driver (machine) spew knowledge on how to A click with zerg.

After that you can stare at a wall for 30 minutes before you realize it is actually incontrol talking in his semi-cocky point of view about absolutely nothing. Ever notice how in Ultimate Gamer he got the wallflower card?

Yeah and then you can listen to kelby who should have no short supply of dave/dinos sperm in his mouth talk about how he weighs 145 lbs.
Price: 250 dollars + lodging + food+ drinks + boredom


Admins, can you warn him or put a temp ban on him for douchebaggery?

I don't know if I'm allowed to ask you guys to ban people (sorry if it's against the rules- I looked and didn't see anything against it), but he's a really crappy troll who's clearly being malicious for no reason.

While not exactly your wish it's in the same veign with a dash of lol http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124873


Heh saw that ^-^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
May 12 2010 01:54 GMT
#568
On May 12 2010 09:15 VarsityUser wrote:
The last two times I've seen the word "revamping":

On an infomercial for a shitty product, and on a forum for a shitty product.

I'll train anyone who PM's me for less than 12/hr@ paypal. I know for a fact I'm better than several of the players "Coaching" this 'camp'. I just got the beta last week and and constantly reviewing all current tournament, league, and various other replays for strategic influence. I play protoss and terran and can probably teach zerg up to a 1700~ish rating.

I'll be making a forum later but PM if interested. Don't waste your hard earned money on traveling to someone elses comfort zone to let them take use of you. All the training you need can be done via a schedule of playing, reviewing replays, and analyzing deep traits in your game.

I suspect the people paying for this camp are doing it in large part for the social experience of having fun in a house full of gamers for three days. It sounds like a lot of fun. If they wanted to only get better, they can do the individualized coaching that those guys already offer.

That said, I don't feel you're doing the right thing by coming into a thread, posting about your own coaching business to undercut someone else. Imagine if we let everyone do that..

Random blog:
"I know this blog is great, but I just wrote a blog too, check out my blog!!"

Tourney thread:
"The HDH invitational is great, but check out the ICCup tournament! It's going on soon!!!"

Random stream:
"Forget this stream, he sucks! Check out my stream its way better!!"


You are allowed to voice your opinion and state your criticism civilly, but what you posted is not appropriate. Keep your own coaching advertising to your own threads.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
May 12 2010 01:55 GMT
#569
On May 12 2010 09:51 VarsityUser wrote:
Guys lets all pay 250 dollars to listen to a full time pizza delivery driver (machine) spew knowledge on how to A click with zerg.

After that you can stare at a wall for 30 minutes before you realize it is actually incontrol talking in his semi-cocky point of view about absolutely nothing. Ever notice how in Ultimate Gamer he got the wallflower card?

Yeah and then you can listen to kelby who should have no short supply of dave/dinos sperm in his mouth talk about how he weighs 145 lbs.
Price: 250 dollars + lodging + food+ drinks + boredom

Okay just saw this, you have a nerdrage issue with the users that run this camp, keep your personal vendettas out of TL.net, goodbye.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
May 12 2010 02:07 GMT
#570
This is possibly the funniest thread I've ever read. So much feelings about this matter.

The mods have allowed the thread to be open. Obviously they have no problems with the team marketing this here at TL.
If the takers know what they are getting into and have the cash to spare, I think it's a great thing for both parts, and I think they could have a lot of fun during those few days aswell.
I would personally never do it but that is from a lot of different reasons that hasn't been mentioned in this thread.

GL to you all ^^;
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
May 12 2010 02:30 GMT
#571
btw, theres not anything to do in Queen Creek. its the BFE of phoenix valley.

the closest locations of entertainment is Mesa/Tempe (specifically). i live in the valley and would have loved to be here, but ill be out of town for the summer. :-(
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
May 12 2010 02:38 GMT
#572
If I had the money I'd fly up from Canada, pay my fees, and help teach these guys! It's an awesome idea guys, keep it up.
Wishing you well.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 02:41:35
May 12 2010 02:39 GMT
#573
On May 12 2010 08:41 Dragonsven wrote:
Show nested quote +

If you don't like the idea of post count being important then you're at the wrong site. If you think the forum veterans are 25 year old nerd ragers and you don't like the idea of respecting them you're at the wrong site. If you think the rules at SomethingAwful are superior, you're at the wrong site. If you think you know who deserves to be banned and you're not a mod you're at the wrong site. If you don't like the elitist totem pole that is TL then you're at the wrong site.

Yes, you can spam posts, but it's highly unlikely that someone's going to spam up 1k post and not have ever posted anything worthwhile.

Bottom line: If you don't like the rules then YOU'RE AT THE WRONG SITE.


So you're the dude on Fox News that tells us to get out of the country if you don't like one or two policies, aren't you? The world isn't entirely teenage black and white logic, my little friend. Is this the only website you visit? Wow...

I actually hate Fox News (Glenn Beck makes me wanna punch something). But you exactly prove my point. This isn't the only gaming website on the internet. If you don't like how it's run there are plenty of other sites you can visit. You come to this site because you like what it offers (i'm assuming); you're a guest of this site and must therefore abide by the rules. Like they said in the TL commandments, it's their site and it's a private site. Meaning it's their rules and you have to follow whether you like it or not. How would you like it if I went to your house and started breaking your rules for your house like, iunno, jumping on your bed with shoes on or w/e pisses you off.

If you don't agree with TL rules, that's totally fine, but it's too bad for you because while you're here, you still have to abide by them.
CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
May 12 2010 02:56 GMT
#574
Have you guys considering doing something exactly like this but completely online?

For someone like myself who is middle class, this program is very attractive but is simply inaccessible.
SCV good to go sir
BigDatez
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada434 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 03:14:21
May 12 2010 03:05 GMT
#575
Let's all pay real money to get good at a game... It's easy to get (fairly) good at on your own (im 1600 plat, 54-26, and i played one week of BW in my life, and WC3 until i got my 25 win icon ^^, Didnt take any coachingg. Not saying i'm good,just saying that for how short i've played and researched, its proven that you dont NEED coaching to be good) I think this is a bit of a scam TBH, but meh, who am i to judge.

Heres a hint: Watch ALOT of pro replays, watch some day[9] Daily's, get some practice partners, review your replays and pick out where you went wrong.
Video games > sex (Proven fact)
Satallgeese
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States239 Posts
May 12 2010 03:27 GMT
#576
Emailed! I heartily look forward to a reply, ^.^
A good player practices until he gets it right. A great player practices until he can't get it wrong.
Rubyiris
Profile Joined May 2010
United States39 Posts
May 12 2010 03:30 GMT
#577
On May 11 2010 11:15 GogoKodo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:10 Rubyiris wrote:
This is a cool idea, but 250$? :\

Ya, that is pretty cheap, they could probably be charging more.


How exactly is 250$ cheap? =\
I'm so terrible.
CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
May 12 2010 03:30 GMT
#578
On May 12 2010 12:05 BigDates wrote:
Let's all pay real money to get good at a game... It's easy to get (fairly) good at on your own (im 1600 plat, 54-26, and i played one week of BW in my life, and WC3 until i got my 25 win icon ^^, Didnt take any coachingg. Not saying i'm good,just saying that for how short i've played and researched, its proven that you dont NEED coaching to be good) I think this is a bit of a scam TBH, but meh, who am i to judge.

Heres a hint: Watch ALOT of pro replays, watch some day[9] Daily's, get some practice partners, review your replays and pick out where you went wrong.


I'm pretty sure Gosucoaching's aim is not to be just "good". When I consider taking gosucoaching I'm thinking about actual competitive settings in tournaments, not some battle net ladder that anyone can do well on.

I'm #1 in my plat division and at a decent rating and sometimes play vs known players, but I don't consider myself to be "good". I would think that gosucoaching is offering their service for high level starcraft players who want to take part in tournaments and play at a higher level. There is no way that their experience wouldn't be helpful for someone who wants to truly play at a competitive level.

You can do 1 cheasy strat, or just learn one build and play it over and over again on the ladder. You don't have to deal with pressure, or anything that competitive at the 1600 bracket.

My friend who is GOD AWFUL at RTS and was E in iccup is in plat. You may be in plat but there is gameplay far above what you could even imagine. I really think people have to understand the level of skill difference in plat...
SCV good to go sir
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45351 Posts
May 12 2010 03:37 GMT
#579
On May 12 2010 12:30 Rubyiris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 11:15 GogoKodo wrote:
On May 11 2010 11:10 Rubyiris wrote:
This is a cool idea, but 250$? :\

Ya, that is pretty cheap, they could probably be charging more.


How exactly is 250$ cheap? =\


9 solid hours of coaching per day for three days... 27 hours of coaching total... they're charging less than $10/hour for their services (and this completely ignores the coverage of food, room, and board). How many other tutoring services charge $10/hour?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TFlame
Profile Joined March 2010
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 03:43:34
May 12 2010 03:42 GMT
#580
Most professional seminars cost $200-$500 for between 1.5 to 8 hour courses. I've been to LAN party's (they're a ton of fun) and aside from that met a couple of these guys and I'm sure everyone who went would have a blast, not to mention the improvement to their SC2 skills. Consider it a bargain because the price will likely go up in future camps.

Kudos to you guys this is a great idea and I wish you success!
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