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Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
April 11 2010 03:08 GMT
#21
There's really no need to use pre-rendered for a 1 minute cinematic like the ones in SC1. You could easily just use real-time rendering for those type of cinematics, and I'm sure it would look just as good since the SC1 cinematic quality is a bit outdated compared to the more recent games. Save the pre-rendered budget and time for the real important cinematics.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
April 11 2010 03:12 GMT
#22
Needs less Warcraft movie and more SC cinematics. They always put a smile on my face.
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Glider
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1353 Posts
April 11 2010 03:14 GMT
#23
Well I love blizzard pre-rendered cinematics, so i'll never complain if there are more. 13min combined with in-game cinematics could work very well. But of course none of that matters much compared to multiplayer-gameplay. Still, absolutely looking forward to the cinematics.
fulmetljaket
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
482 Posts
April 11 2010 03:22 GMT
#24
there should be a full length starcraft movie, imo
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
April 11 2010 03:24 GMT
#25
I'm more surprised Starcraft had 20 minutes of cinematics. 13 seems fine to me...
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
April 11 2010 03:26 GMT
#26
On April 11 2010 12:22 fulmetljaket wrote:
there should be a full length starcraft movie, imo


Agreed but we won't be seeing it anytime soon.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8029 Posts
April 11 2010 03:29 GMT
#27
On April 11 2010 11:34 Ocedic wrote:
I hardly even noticed the sparsity of pre-rendered cinematics in War3. Ingame cinematics may not be nearly as pretty, but the voice acting is top notch and it really draws you into the game.

I hated the in-game cinematics of Warcraft 3. There are few worse ways to destroy immersion than watching a character get killed and seeing their "corpse" phase through the ground. =/
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Ai52487963
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom136 Posts
April 11 2010 03:36 GMT
#28
I'll take quality over quantity any day.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 11 2010 03:40 GMT
#29
On April 11 2010 12:29 Spazer wrote:
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On April 11 2010 11:34 Ocedic wrote:
I hardly even noticed the sparsity of pre-rendered cinematics in War3. Ingame cinematics may not be nearly as pretty, but the voice acting is top notch and it really draws you into the game.

I hated the in-game cinematics of Warcraft 3. There are few worse ways to destroy immersion than watching a character get killed and seeing their "corpse" phase through the ground. =/

How is seeing it in a cinematic any more immersion-breaking than seeing it as you play?
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yomi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States773 Posts
April 11 2010 03:41 GMT
#30
On April 11 2010 12:29 Spazer wrote:
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On April 11 2010 11:34 Ocedic wrote:
I hardly even noticed the sparsity of pre-rendered cinematics in War3. Ingame cinematics may not be nearly as pretty, but the voice acting is top notch and it really draws you into the game.

I hated the in-game cinematics of Warcraft 3. There are few worse ways to destroy immersion than watching a character get killed and seeing their "corpse" phase through the ground. =/


agreed

the graphics were so bad you would really have just preferred the voice-only briefings from SC1

Also I'm not sure what people are talking about with SC2 in game cut scenes looking good. The graphics engine is great for what it is. An RTS game where each unit is meant to be viewed from a long distance and it can run well on older computers. But this is not an FPS game, the in game cut scenes aren't going blow you away.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8029 Posts
April 11 2010 08:28 GMT
#31
On April 11 2010 12:40 TheYango wrote:
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On April 11 2010 12:29 Spazer wrote:
On April 11 2010 11:34 Ocedic wrote:
I hardly even noticed the sparsity of pre-rendered cinematics in War3. Ingame cinematics may not be nearly as pretty, but the voice acting is top notch and it really draws you into the game.

I hated the in-game cinematics of Warcraft 3. There are few worse ways to destroy immersion than watching a character get killed and seeing their "corpse" phase through the ground. =/

How is seeing it in a cinematic any more immersion-breaking than seeing it as you play?

In game, I'm just killing things and not paying too much attention to the story because I'm busy actually doing stuff. On the other hand, the purpose of a cinematic is to forward the story, so more attention is spent on things like graphics. So if I'm watching a dramatic death scene or something, the vanishing body just kills the mood. Something that is an acceptable break from reality for gameplay reasons is not necessarily acceptable outside of gameplay. It's all about willing suspension of disbelief.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 11 2010 09:26 GMT
#32
Considering the quality and creativity of Blizz cinematics are light years ahead of every other company, i think 13 is pretty good.
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 09:29:31
April 11 2010 09:28 GMT
#33
I disagree with the last few of you. The Wc3 in-game scenes were great. There was a great flow to the story telling. In Starcraft 1, there would be missions then all of a sudden a cinematic that was pretty random ( the dragoons attacking the terran base ), sure it kinda fit with the grand story, but the particular one you are involved with (ending cinematics were good).

Keeping the story progress through in game scenes lets you stay immersed. I think Blizzard intends for you Spazer to enjoy the story while you are in the game.
DanceDance
Profile Joined November 2008
226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 10:07:41
April 11 2010 10:05 GMT
#34
It's a game not a movie. They could maybe add a few more minuets of cinematics? But then again, there will probably be lots of in game cutscenes anyway to make up for it. I'm not going to complain. I think they have nailed it.
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
April 11 2010 10:52 GMT
#35
On April 11 2010 02:57 nnexus wrote:
According to

http://us.starcraft2.com/features/collector/

SC2 is going to have only 13 minutes of prerendered cinematics. It looks like we are going to have only intro and outro. For comparision in original StarCraft the cinematics were 20 minutes long and in Broodwar 12 minutes. What do you think about it? Is it enough?



Possible DVD space issue - 4.7gb of room and cinematics likely to be 720p at a guess
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FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
April 11 2010 11:01 GMT
#36
There were more cinematics in the original SC, but think about it, the quality was much lower.

And while most of SC1's cinematics were fantastic, a few of them were pretty throw-away. Like that cutscene of the Norad II crashing, or the cutscene of the Zerg jumping into a random wormhole, or the cutscene of the Wraiths yelling "Yeeeha!"
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
April 11 2010 11:10 GMT
#37
it wouldn't bother me if it was some other game, but Blizzard cinematic are imo the best in the whole world.

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doesn't get more epic
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ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 11 2010 11:15 GMT
#38
On April 11 2010 12:41 yomi wrote:
Also I'm not sure what people are talking about with SC2 in game cut scenes looking good. The graphics engine is great for what it is. An RTS game where each unit is meant to be viewed from a long distance and it can run well on older computers. But this is not an FPS game, the in game cut scenes aren't going blow you away.



What do you call that?
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
April 11 2010 11:29 GMT
#39
The pre rendered cinematics were always reserved for the more epic moments. Still, there is no such thing as too many epic moments.

About the graphics engine. Blizzard has released a SIGGRAPH paper back in 2008 as reported on TL. It has been Blizzards intention from the start to do a lot of story telling through the normal graphics engine, and worked on making it look prettytight.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 11 2010 11:30 GMT
#40
I always felt like the cinematics were a reward for progress in the game. However, if those are ingame, I wouldn ot mind much.
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