SC2 Tool - Hits to Kill Chart - Page 3

On April 02 2010 05:58 Badjas wrote:

I don't think drones can attack air, and a mothership most definitely hovers in the air.

On April 02 2010 05:52 L wrote:
Ultralisks are taking 35 shots to kill each other. I think Kaiserblades are outprioritizing headbutt for the calculation.

On April 02 2010 04:23 Badjas wrote:
Bug report: currently a drone takes 233.33 hits to kill a mothership

Nice job on the presentation, it looks pretty. A few comments, the interface is geared to giving information on two units, and then there's the single bit of information in the number of shots it takes to kill the other unit. This information is most useful in comparison to other unit combinations. By itself it doesn't say that much. Ah wait I read your comment and now I tried out that extra button you made that shows more damage calculations. Presentation in a sorted list please? :D

Besides the number of shots it takes to kill the unit, it would be informative if you would indicate the number of shots it takes the other way around, and then add a number of efficiency:

For the numbers, I will assume that regeneration is already compensated for.

It takes a zergling 18 hits to kill a hydra.
It takes a hydra 2,92 hits to kill a zergling. But it makes more sense to say that three shots kill a zergling, as that last 0,08 bit of a shot goes completely lost.
A zergling costs 25 minerals, 0 gas
A hydra costs 100 minerals, 50 gas
Attacking a hydra with a zergling, ignoring range versus melee advantage, and partial damage/healing and the like, can be given an efficiency rating. Either you give minerals and gas a separate rating, or you could value gas as double the worth of minerals or any other weight. If taken separate, the efficiency in minerals would be:
0,648888889 = (100*3)/(25*18)
mineral efficiency of zergling attacking hydra = (hydra mineral * hydra hits to kill a zergling) / (zergling mineral * zergling hits to kill a hydra)
gas efficiency would yield a divide by zero. If I were to weigh gas twice the value as minerals, I would get an efficiency of zergling attack a hydra:
1,33333 = ((100+2*50)*3)/((25+2*0)*18)
when gas is equal worth to minerals:
1=((100+50)*3)/((25+0)*18)
That is a perfect balance, I guess by design.

If such a score could be incorporated, that'd be neat.

Edit: oopsie, I made a mistake. You'll have to take attack cooldown into account in the efficiency rating. With the zergling/hydra example you'll see then, I predict, that the zergling is more efficient than the hydra, but if you factor in melee versus ranged it should balance out somewhat again as the hydra can get some hits in while the zergling is moving to the hydra (also calculable).

On April 02 2010 06:18 MajicPanda wrote:


No site has Mothership classified as a Air for a modifier.. not sc2armory, not liquipedia. Someone would need to confirm the classification of this unit as ground or air.

On April 03 2010 06:18 StayFrosty wrote:
a bit buggy but thanks for the awesome app

On April 03 2010 08:42 AllFear wrote:
looks nice but might want to make it prettier/more user friendly/easily viewable without scrolling

On April 02 2010 05:47 MajicPanda wrote:


And this is an issue why? lol

5dmg - 2armor = 3dmg per hit
350hp + 350shields = 700
700 / 3 = 233.33

On April 06 2010 10:40 crisPtoss wrote:
great tool thanks! I think your viking damage is calculating incorrectly by not including the x2 on air-to-air attack. Look at your results in pheonix vs viking as an example...it shows viking requiring twice the # of attacks as needed to kill