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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
March 27 2010 10:33 GMT
#41
-orb- big props
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
March 27 2010 10:48 GMT
#42
great play but i dont get the need for 2 min of useless talking before it
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cartoon]x
Profile Joined March 2010
United States606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-27 11:32:57
March 27 2010 11:31 GMT
#43
On March 27 2010 07:23 Marradron wrote:
I dont feel the storms were necisary. the banelings were all blowing up against the 2 zealots in the fields anyway

Wrong. Banelings don't even work that way. Watch it again and get your eyes checked.
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wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
March 27 2010 14:06 GMT
#44
That was so awesome haha thx for sharing
here i am
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 27 2010 14:17 GMT
#45
On March 27 2010 07:57 On_Slaught wrote:
The force fields did aboslutely nothing there. If he had just stormed when they were grouped up, which they were VERY tightly together when he started casting the FFs, he would of gotten the same amount, if not more kills, since the zerg player had time enough to react and get some of the banelings out before the storm, which he wouldn't of been able to react to if the storm just went off on his group.

Instead, what i'd like to see is someone chain force field a group of expensive units, like ultras or something, and then nuke them with a terran partner in 2v2!


Well then the zerg army would have gotten through and at the very least do enough damage to a chance to rebuild some armies and possibly hold off orb. Orb ensured his victory with the force field. He might not have won there if he didn't do it. Enough might of snuck through and hurt his army.
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virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
March 27 2010 14:33 GMT
#46
I dont think this was a smart move or a skilled performance...
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-27 14:35:58
March 27 2010 14:35 GMT
#47
I think a better method would be to wait until they start charging at you (creating a semi-line of Banelings), and create Forcefields at the choke (which spreads out the line into more of a square) and simultaneously throw down a couple Storms.

If that's not micro/APM intensive, I don't know what is (Yes, even with Smart Cast)

You use less energy, and the Blings die in 3 or 4 ticks anyway, so at the most only a few would be able to escape. If they return, just have Stalkers fire like...once...at them :D
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
March 27 2010 14:44 GMT
#48
haha probably my favorite scene so far in SC2
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
March 27 2010 14:48 GMT
#49
On March 27 2010 12:00 avilo wrote:
It is amazing how people see something done one time or by a good player and then suddenly claim imba or to change something just lol.

This replay is more of a novelty, it's more troubling how sentries make units like ultras totally useless and shine especially when armies get big because then they can split up the opposing force in half.
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AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
March 27 2010 18:13 GMT
#50
On March 27 2010 23:48 wintergt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 12:00 avilo wrote:
It is amazing how people see something done one time or by a good player and then suddenly claim imba or to change something just lol.

This replay is more of a novelty, it's more troubling how sentries make units like ultras totally useless and shine especially when armies get big because then they can split up the opposing force in half.


When I see it happen on a stream or in a replay I'll feature that too, but this moment really stuck out to me especially since it was a game winner.
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AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
March 31 2010 01:08 GMT
#51
Yeah! Just wanted to show orb and the rest of you that Blizzard chose to feature this video on their official Twitter and Facebook accounts!

http://twitter.com/StarCraft/status/11312865983

and

http://www.facebook.com/starcraft
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
March 31 2010 01:20 GMT
#52
On March 31 2010 10:08 JoshSuth wrote:
Yeah! Just wanted to show orb and the rest of you that Blizzard chose to feature this video on their official Twitter and Facebook accounts!

http://twitter.com/StarCraft/status/11312865983

and

http://www.facebook.com/starcraft


WOW

That is awesome, thank you sir
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University
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States263 Posts
March 31 2010 01:30 GMT
#53
On March 31 2010 10:20 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 10:08 JoshSuth wrote:
Yeah! Just wanted to show orb and the rest of you that Blizzard chose to feature this video on their official Twitter and Facebook accounts!

http://twitter.com/StarCraft/status/11312865983

and

http://www.facebook.com/starcraft


WOW

That is awesome, thank you sir


That is awesome. Huge props to orb for playing his way onto the Blizz Facebook and twitter accounts. Cool, atypical play like this should be recognized. It is one thing to think of it and another thing to crush opponents with it in-game in the Platinum Leagues.

On another note, it looks like SC2 will have some of the same moments that made SC1 so memorable. I think the Sentry is an extremely viable and interesting unit, and players of the other races have some catching up to do to figure out how to deal with them.
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
March 31 2010 05:42 GMT
#54
On March 27 2010 11:30 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 11:21 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On March 27 2010 07:57 On_Slaught wrote:
The force fields did aboslutely nothing there. If he had just stormed when they were grouped up, which they were VERY tightly together when he started casting the FFs, he would of gotten the same amount, if not more kills, since the zerg player had time enough to react and get some of the banelings out before the storm, which he wouldn't of been able to react to if the storm just went off on his group.

Instead, what i'd like to see is someone chain force field a group of expensive units, like ultras or something, and then nuke them with a terran partner in 2v2!


Uh, if he didn't cast the front force fields, he wouldn't have had an army, much less any temps.

Or was this a joke?

(just in case it isn't, the zerg player clearly moved his ball of death to attack, and then got stopped by forcefields. I mean, there was even a small crack and a few got through the front. There's no way they would have sat there and got stormed, they were already moving towards his army!)


My point is THIS video isn't a good example since the banelings were being wasted on the zealots and the pressence of those spine crawlers actually acted as a choke in favor of the toss. There are some situations where this might work, but you saw how little area was actually encased by the shields, even WITH the help of the spine crawlers, and that was a puny zerg army (massively outdone as far as expense and tech goes by the toss army) and it was basically only 1.5 storm size of space.

Having said that, even if you don't use the FFs to surround the enemy, as shown they are still very useful for stalling banelings that are running at your armor.

Oh, and to the above poster, I didn't see any roaches in there, just the 4 mutalisks.


As said before, without the forcefield, the banelings woulda destroyed the P. Banelings aren't spider mines, one blowing up doesnt kill the entire crowd so the whole "2 zealots soaking up all the banelings" is rubbish.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 31 2010 06:02 GMT
#55
On March 27 2010 12:14 VX14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 12:00 avilo wrote:
On March 27 2010 11:38 VX14 wrote:
yeah, im pretty sure either forcefield will cost more energy in the near future or sentries will cost more minerals. my guess is sentries costing 75/100.


No.

It is amazing how people see something done one time or by a good player and then suddenly claim imba or to change something just lol.

anyways cool vid and good forcefields. Seemed like the guy was done at that point anyways tho.


im not saying this just because of the video. im saying this because no matter what protoss always gets sentries. sentries are great because if you have too much gas building up you can just add in a few sentries at very little mineral cost and they are great against any army composition. force field is used in almost any situation. guardian shield is at least a little useful in most. overall sentries seem like they are just being overused, and thus they need a nerf.

what kind of argument is that???

marines are overused. nerf them pl0x!
roaches are overused. nerf them pl0x!
zealots are overused. nerf them pl0x
etc...

you can make that argument for basically any unit or spellcaster in the whole game. out of the many games i've played (only gold league tho) and the streams I've been watching, nowhere have I seen sentries been as imba as you make them out to be.
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
March 31 2010 06:09 GMT
#56
Wow i can't imagine the look on that guys face when that happened, but either way just sick play well done
calcarus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia103 Posts
March 31 2010 06:17 GMT
#57
Well i liked the video even if others didnt.
"All I know, is that I know nothing" - Socrates
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
March 31 2010 06:38 GMT
#58
Maybe this was discussed somewhere, but I havent seen it so far. Why was -orb-'s stream unfeatured? Definitely among the best players streaming
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TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
March 31 2010 06:47 GMT
#59
On March 31 2010 15:02 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 12:14 VX14 wrote:
On March 27 2010 12:00 avilo wrote:
On March 27 2010 11:38 VX14 wrote:
yeah, im pretty sure either forcefield will cost more energy in the near future or sentries will cost more minerals. my guess is sentries costing 75/100.


No.

It is amazing how people see something done one time or by a good player and then suddenly claim imba or to change something just lol.

anyways cool vid and good forcefields. Seemed like the guy was done at that point anyways tho.


im not saying this just because of the video. im saying this because no matter what protoss always gets sentries. sentries are great because if you have too much gas building up you can just add in a few sentries at very little mineral cost and they are great against any army composition. force field is used in almost any situation. guardian shield is at least a little useful in most. overall sentries seem like they are just being overused, and thus they need a nerf.

what kind of argument is that???

marines are overused. nerf them pl0x!
roaches are overused. nerf them pl0x!
zealots are overused. nerf them pl0x
etc...

you can make that argument for basically any unit or spellcaster in the whole game. out of the many games i've played (only gold league tho) and the streams I've been watching, nowhere have I seen sentries been as imba as you make them out to be.


Well there is a video out where Check comments on sentrys seeing them as the one unit that prolly needs a nerf. So after all they might need one.
So far we still in beta so we will see. I m looking forward to more protoss tears tho if they nerf sentrys :p
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 06:52:51
March 31 2010 06:49 GMT
#60
the zerg has 1a disease instead of 1a2a3a disease which would have given him a much better chance.

Also sacking the odd ling to scout the upcoming force helps against panicing i've seen. Also storm is still the great equaliser
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