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I believe I can now shed some light on the rate at which rested points are accumulated!
It would seem all account created AFTER the last patch (the korean patch) now correctly show the 1v1 rested points pool.
After applying some math I have found the rate at which rested points are collected to be:
+1 rested point per 4 hours
but you start with a rested points pool equal to how long the server has been up divided by 4hours. So essentially you have been gaining 1 rested point every 4hours since server release.
The beta was released around 20days ago; and so you would start with 112 rested points if you made an account at the time of this post and continue to gain 1 more every 4hours.
The same system applies to both 1v1 and 2v2.
I believe accounts created before the patch (which are still showing 0 rested points) are actually gaining rested points at the normal rate and being able to use them normally. (if someone could somehow confirm this; that would be great)
also you get 12 of your rested points added to your ELO score per win, unless your opponent was favoured - in which case you gain 12 + 1 extra point per favoured point.
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Do rested points have a maximum? I'd imagine they should have a max based upon your current rating or something.
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the maximum right now is 112points because the server has only been up for 112*4hours.
newcomers do have 112points stored up at the moment.
So as of now either there is no maximum or it is impossible to reach that maximum thus far.
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That seems a bit broken, really, haha. I think rested points should be generated, or have a maximum, based on current rank or something, otherwise those on top of the division can simply get one-win per large period of time and easily stay on top.
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It would be 1 win per 48hours to gain the "maximum" (unless your opponent is favoured; not the case if you are "on top")
So i dont really think that is going to be an issue.
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i wonder if there is point decay, if point decay exists after lets say 1 month, it is too soon to be able to tell. I wouln't rule it out though.
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I have way more than 112 points in my bonus pool, and another guy I know has 250 or something like that.
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Uhmm...Whats rested points? What do they do?
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bonus pool =/= rested points, shadowdrgn
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zergling4life: after you win a game your rested points get added to the total points won with a cap of 12(the points for 1 win) + favoured points
e.g. you have a rested bonus pool of 15 and you win a game so you get +12 for the win, and your opponent was favoured and you gain +2 favoured points, so you gain 12win+2favoured+14bonus for 28points total and then you have 1 point remaining in the "rested points"
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o... interesting... well i never have any cause i play so much
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so what exactly IS a rested point? and what are bonus points? OO!
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rested points are bonus points that are not yet collected that accumulate at +1 per 4hour of inactivity.
bonus points are points that are added to your score after a win and taken out of your rested points.
bonus pool is neither of these. I dont know exactly what bonus pool is at this stage.
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so does this mean if my elo is 1410 .... I'll be at 1411 in 4 hours if I don't play any games?
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No. It means if your ELO is 1410 and you win a game in 4hours, that you will win 1 extra point from that game than you would have 4hours ago (so 1423 instead of 1422 assuming you now only have 1 rested point TOTAL, and assuming even matched with opponent… +12win+0favoured+1bonus)
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When I win a game and gain x bonus points, my bonus pool decreases by x. Rested points always reads zero. I think they're the same thing, but the implementation is in a transition period right now.
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No; my account was made after the patch and so rested points read properly. Your account was made before patch and so rested points read zero (but they are not zero!) [read the OP]
If i had to guess I would say bonus pool is the maximum you are allowed to gain for some unknown reason (possibly something to do with 2v2 teams)
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Rested points are stupid then, because whoever has the oldest account has the most opportunity to gain points. What the fuck is this, WoW? Time should not play a factor in having the best rank.
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I have 400 rested points. Yet I get hardly any points when I win.
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On March 10 2010 19:56 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Rested points are stupid then, because whoever has the oldest account has the most opportunity to gain points. What the fuck is this, WoW? Time should not play a factor in having the best rank.
You got this the wrong way around:
If your terrible rested Points won't help you.
If your good and can't play for a Week rested points will help you to catch up.
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On March 10 2010 19:56 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Rested points are stupid then, because whoever has the oldest account has the most opportunity to gain points. What the fuck is this, WoW? Time should not play a factor in having the best rank.
Reread the OP. If he is right, then what you say here is wrong. Each new player starts with the server lifetime in hours / 4. This gives a skilled new player a BETTER chance to gain points, than the player with the older account (granted that he has played any game already). To me this system makes a lot of sense! Like this players who start in the middle of a season with an account have a better chance to still make it to the top (as well as players who don't play regularly). I could imagine that rested points will be reset whenever a new season starts. Does anybody know if rested points deplete when you actually lose a game? This would only make sense to me.
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Seems like I accumulate points much faster than one per four hours. Generally I have about 9 or 10 bonus points when I wake up in the morning, and yes I do play about 10 games every day.
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this is about Rested Points, not Bonus Points.
So this means that my +24-32 points streak is bound to end after a while? That's sad...
But it really does seem like a decent implementation.
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But all in all we still have no clue what "Bonus Pool" is, right?
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my bonus pool jumped to 420 from around 100 when i was moved to another league
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i have a bonus pool of 365
i am 1v1 gold, 2x 2v2 platin,
maybe it help to figure out what bonus pool is, when we compare ladder appearances
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On March 10 2010 22:18 Kaniol wrote:
I have 0 rested points and i played last game over 20 hours ago.
Watched a lot of replays like 2 hours ago, but this should not be the matter i guess
read op again and you will understand why
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On March 10 2010 20:08 MiraMax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2010 19:56 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Rested points are stupid then, because whoever has the oldest account has the most opportunity to gain points. What the fuck is this, WoW? Time should not play a factor in having the best rank. Reread the OP. If he is right, then what you say here is wrong. Each new player starts with the server lifetime in hours / 4. This gives a skilled new player a BETTER chance to gain points, than the player with the older account (granted that he has played any game already). To me this system makes a lot of sense! Like this players who start in the middle of a season with an account have a better chance to still make it to the top (as well as players who don't play regularly). I could imagine that rested points will be reset whenever a new season starts. Does anybody know if rested points deplete when you actually lose a game? This would only make sense to me.
QFT. Rested points can shoot a good player up the ladder to where he would be at if he was playing the whole time, assuming he took some time off in a season. Therefore, players don't have to be grinding rank constantly, or from the beginning of the season to even have a chance.
This benefits players that can play at the top and get win after win. If your not winning, your rested points are being wasted. You gain rested points for a win, then lose a few games, then gain rested points for a win, then lose some games. You end up wasting away all those rested points to losses, and it won't put you up the ladder very far. But if you keep winning (because your good) you get ranked up higher (because your good). And it won't take you as long. So you can take a month off of the ladder after a season reset, come back, and jump up to top 8 without grinding.
And grinding for a rank you know you should be at is more like WoW than the rested points comparison by CharlieMurphy.
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