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Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
March 01 2010 16:27 GMT
#41
Cause they can't compete with the korean pros, so they are hoping a head start at a new game that they can claim to be the best at.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
March 01 2010 16:28 GMT
#42
On March 02 2010 01:19 red.venom wrote:
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On March 02 2010 00:04 Artosis wrote:
ok? so? no one in sc1 makes more than 5k a year cept idra. a few will. so they switch. the entire scene moving over is good + healthy.


What about Nony?

Lol, quintuple digits in one tourney. Not too shabby.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 16:29 GMT
#43
wtf are there really foreigners who plan to be professional SC2 players? Why not just aim for the top without playing professionally?
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
March 01 2010 16:29 GMT
#44
On March 02 2010 01:21 uNiGNoRe wrote:
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On March 02 2010 01:11 Dr.Frost wrote:
I think SC2 WILL EVENTUALLY be more famous than sc2 and have a pro scene in a lot more countries. Also as a spectator, SC2 is a lot more fun to watch than sc2.

I completely agree...


Agree also but the pro-scene will probably only get relatively big in the US but even so it'll be bedroom gamers still, getting to any sponsored house type situation is many many years away for even being feasible unless Blizzard make a there own TV channel(which would be the only way they could break into mainstream audiences as advertisements and probably programmes would come to them bringing audiences.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
March 01 2010 16:31 GMT
#45
On March 02 2010 00:36 Senx wrote:
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On March 02 2010 00:23 TestSubject893 wrote:
On March 02 2010 00:13 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 00:07 TestSubject893 wrote:
SC2 will have the infrastructure and sponsorship needed to allow competition to reach a whole new level, even for those players who are not going to be directly competing for cash prizes or Blizzard's "Pro" ladder. I personally can't wait.


Its a big presumption all these sponsors are going to come out of the woodwork just for SC2. If they had to chose a game to sponser they'd still go for something more mainstream like Halo, CoD, WoW which already have huge bases but only Halo gets much attention.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it will be almost as "mainstream" as those games. I know a lot of people that didn't even realize that people still played BW that are really excited for SC2, but maybe I'm just seeing something that isn't there because I want it to be true.


No you're right, a big part of the wc3 and the sc community will flock to this game. Even talking to complete casual gamers that barely play video games are pumped for SC2. Same thing on certain mmorpg forums, they're actually getting the game.

So yeah.. SC2 will be quite the "mainstream" game. While the SC/wc3 community will make out the more hardcore crowd, all the other gamers will create a larger casual crowd.
The modding community will make sure the game becomes even more popular with the mods such as a new dota SC2 version.

e-sport oriented video game with huge player base = success.

Just my predictions.


An important disclaimer here would be that casual players are not necessarily looking for multiplayer, and especially competitive multiplayer. In fact, I'd say that 90% of the people I talk to who don't still play BW are looking forward to the campaign, map editor, and custom maps much more than a robust new Battle.net AMM and fierce competition. I agree with you that SC2 will be an extremely "mainstream" game, but I think much of the ladder will be composed of ICCup players, and that this will be emphasized much more 6 months after release.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 16:37:44
March 01 2010 16:35 GMT
#46
On March 02 2010 00:23 Xeln4g4 wrote:
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On March 01 2010 23:37 MadNeSs wrote:
Is SC2 really that good, Amber?


I was wondering the same ... you are one of the few talking about it in excitement when comparing it to SC1 ...

Actually, lots of people who are actually in the beta are excited about it. Have you listened to Day[9] on his stream?

Lots of the complaints in this forum are coming from people who aren't in beta and just watch streams lol.
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 16:35 GMT
#47
On March 02 2010 00:23 Xeln4g4 wrote:
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On March 01 2010 23:37 MadNeSs wrote:
Is SC2 really that good, Amber?


I was wondering the same ... you are one of the few talking about it in excitement when comparing it to SC1 ...

I think SC2 is awesome too, not as balanced as SC1 right now obv cuz It's beta, but It's really fun, not the feeling I had when WC3 came out at all, It's much much better

Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
March 01 2010 16:37 GMT
#48
On March 02 2010 01:29 Fayth wrote:
wtf are there really foreigners who plan to be professional SC2 players? Why not just aim for the top without playing professionally?

"My dad once told me, if your good at something, don't do it for free" - The Joker
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
March 01 2010 16:38 GMT
#49
Yeah, this is the first game I've wanted to play so much since BW
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 16:41 GMT
#50
On March 02 2010 01:37 Irrelevant wrote:
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On March 02 2010 01:29 Fayth wrote:
wtf are there really foreigners who plan to be professional SC2 players? Why not just aim for the top without playing professionally?

"My dad once told me, if your good at something, don't do it for free" - The Joker

Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician, It's a game that's eventually going to die, and you make money from what, competitions only? Or you have to move in another country?(lol)

I dunno, I might be biased, I just think most talented, dedicated and highly competitive gamers should try out poker for a living while they play like SC2 competitively but not try to make a living out of it
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 16:50:44
March 01 2010 16:49 GMT
#51
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 01:37 Irrelevant wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:29 Fayth wrote:
wtf are there really foreigners who plan to be professional SC2 players? Why not just aim for the top without playing professionally?

"My dad once told me, if your good at something, don't do it for free" - The Joker

Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician, It's a game that's eventually going to die, and you make money from what, competitions only? Or you have to move in another country?(lol)

I dunno, I might be biased, I just think most talented, dedicated and highly competitive gamers should try out poker for a living while they play like SC2 competitively but not try to make a living out of it


Since when is being a musician something with any amazing potential? Oh you could being a pop star or some shit? Just cos a game isn't gonna get you the ladies doesn't mean its pointless to play. You play cos its fun and you would rather be playing a challenging game then sitting in-front of the telly vegetating or selling your soul in a pub or club making a fool of yourself.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 01 2010 16:49 GMT
#52
On March 01 2010 23:58 IdrA wrote:
i lost all my skill when i started playing protoss so i cant really go back even if i wanted to


O__________________O. Idra.....why...you're a Terran at heart D:.

I would rofl it if turned out TvP became easy for Terran now and they got to 12 CC with any protoss 2 gate opening failing
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 16:55 GMT
#53
On March 02 2010 01:49 Adeeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:37 Irrelevant wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:29 Fayth wrote:
wtf are there really foreigners who plan to be professional SC2 players? Why not just aim for the top without playing professionally?

"My dad once told me, if your good at something, don't do it for free" - The Joker

Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician, It's a game that's eventually going to die, and you make money from what, competitions only? Or you have to move in another country?(lol)

I dunno, I might be biased, I just think most talented, dedicated and highly competitive gamers should try out poker for a living while they play like SC2 competitively but not try to make a living out of it


Since when is being a musician something with any amazing potential? Oh you could being a pop star or some shit? Just cos a game isn't gonna get you the ladies doesn't mean its pointless to play. You play cos its fun and you would rather be playing a challenging game then sitting in-front of the telly vegetating or selling your soul in a pub or club making a fool of yourself.

I talked about being a musician cuz it also has very little potential, and you need to make it to the top to make any decent money, but music is never going to die, as opposed to SC2
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 16:56 GMT
#54
On March 02 2010 01:49 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 23:58 IdrA wrote:
i lost all my skill when i started playing protoss so i cant really go back even if i wanted to


O__________________O. Idra.....why...you're a Terran at heart D:.

I would rofl it if turned out TvP became easy for Terran now and they got to 12 CC with any protoss 2 gate opening failing

sadly so far it's easier for P than T lol
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 17:00:04
March 01 2010 16:58 GMT
#55
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 17:04:25
March 01 2010 17:01 GMT
#56
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 01:37 Irrelevant wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:29 Fayth wrote:
wtf are there really foreigners who plan to be professional SC2 players? Why not just aim for the top without playing professionally?

"My dad once told me, if your good at something, don't do it for free" - The Joker

Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician, It's a game that's eventually going to die, and you make money from what, competitions only? Or you have to move in another country?(lol)

I dunno, I might be biased, I just think most talented, dedicated and highly competitive gamers should try out poker for a living while they play like SC2 competitively but not try to make a living out of it


Not everyone has to live your life. Your need to post your opinion constantly on how 'stupid' these people are that play games for a living reeks of insecurity. What you gonna do when everyone figures out poker? Stop the crusade.
Team Liquid
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 17:02 GMT
#57
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 17:06:17
March 01 2010 17:04 GMT
#58
On March 02 2010 02:02 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it


When SC2 dies(10years or so?) ppl will migrate to SC3 or WC4 or w/e RTS takes the crown at that time. Its 2010 send the wife to work and be a house-husband \o/.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 01 2010 17:05 GMT
#59
On March 02 2010 02:02 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it


So you suggest gambling instead of playing video games?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 17:07:56
March 01 2010 17:07 GMT
#60
On March 01 2010 23:31 Amber[LighT] wrote:
To be honest once you play SC2 you really can't go back to SC1. You start getting used to this new game and how it works and it's nothing like SC1. The game has so many new opportunities and everyone is trying to exploit the best strategies. Why bother playing SC when SC2 is nearly here?

I did try to play SC a week ago and it's like looking at an inferior game. Besides SC2 is so much fun to play!


Precisely my opinion.

There will also be more non-korean sponsors and paid teams for SC2, most likely.
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