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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 17:10 GMT
#61
On March 02 2010 02:05 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 02:02 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it


So you suggest gambling instead of playing video games?

if you aim to make money, yes, poker is the only really profitable form of gambling so don't misunderstand me.... not any gambling lol
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 17:11 GMT
#62
On March 02 2010 02:04 Adeeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 02:02 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it


When SC2 dies(10years or so?) ppl will migrate to SC3 or WC4 or w/e RTS takes the crown at that time. Its 2010 send the wife to work and be a house-husband \o/.

LOL WTF house husband hahahahah
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 17:13:55
March 01 2010 17:12 GMT
#63
On March 02 2010 02:10 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 02:05 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 02 2010 02:02 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it


So you suggest gambling instead of playing video games?

if you aim to make money, yes, poker is the only really profitable form of gambling so don't misunderstand me.... not any gambling lol


The house always wins. Poker is not reliable even if you can potentially earn a lot you can potentially lose everything. Also, its just so boring to play poker all the time...
Dr.Frost
Profile Joined April 2009
United States389 Posts
March 01 2010 17:13 GMT
#64
@ghardo I don't think that is a good comparison at all. SC2 is in beta. We don't know how it will turn out. From the looks of things it will be a huge hit, players from BW, WC3, CC3, WOW, and Diablo all seem to be jumping on board plus all the new comers. I think sc2 will far surpass sc2 And wc3 combined in popularity.
They are here to right our fall, they have heard someones troubled call???
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17377 Posts
March 01 2010 17:14 GMT
#65
I love how so many people write SC1 as SC2. Some really hilarious posts come out of it.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Hehlol
Profile Joined November 2009
22 Posts
March 01 2010 17:18 GMT
#66
Hey guys why is this brand new game called Starcraft 2 killing the 11 year game called Starcraft?

While the answer may be incredibly clear and obvious, let's propose our THEORIES!

SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 01 2010 17:19 GMT
#67
On March 02 2010 02:12 Adeeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 02:10 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 02:05 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 02 2010 02:02 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it


So you suggest gambling instead of playing video games?

if you aim to make money, yes, poker is the only really profitable form of gambling so don't misunderstand me.... not any gambling lol


The house always wins. Poker is not reliable even if you can potentially earn a lot you can potentially lose everything. Also, its just so boring to play poker all the time...


Stop turning this into whether or not poker is profitable. If it interests you that much go make a thread about it. Thanks
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
March 01 2010 17:21 GMT
#68
Fayth stop being a hater and dont judge people. im personally excited to see what the future brings even though at the same time i hope bw doesnt die
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 01 2010 17:25 GMT
#69
sc2 is not gonna last 10 years in progaming i think ) unless they stretch out the 3 parts over a long time, then it should last 10 years. blizzard has all the attention and ppl to make the game work, atm its all up to blizzard to balance the game and keep up the good work

poker isnt something that u can guarantee to succeed in but tbh if uve been a progamer in sc2 or wc3 scbw w/e i think u have talent and practice enough to make it. the games r almost the same in theory and i dont see a better way to prepare a career of poker than to practice strategy games like this when ur a kid while ur in school. obviously this sounds hilarious to most ppl but this is what i think is true :p
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 17:28 GMT
#70
meh im not being a hater, I'm trying to understand, but I've talked with iNkA and it seems when they talk about playing professionally it just means they make money off it, not their only source of income?

So the proper term would be semi-pro?
Hehlol
Profile Joined November 2009
22 Posts
March 01 2010 17:29 GMT
#71
On March 02 2010 01:11 Dr.Frost wrote:
I think SC2 WILL EVENTUALLY be more famous than sc2 and have a pro scene in a lot more countries. Also as a spectator, SC2 is a lot more fun to watch than sc2. I can't wait to see the builds/strata that unfold in pro matches for sc2.


At least go back and edit your post...

ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 17:31 GMT
#72
On March 02 2010 02:12 Adeeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 02:10 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 02:05 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 02 2010 02:02 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it


So you suggest gambling instead of playing video games?

if you aim to make money, yes, poker is the only really profitable form of gambling so don't misunderstand me.... not any gambling lol


The house always wins. Poker is not reliable even if you can potentially earn a lot you can potentially lose everything. Also, its just so boring to play poker all the time...

Just as it is to play Starcraft all the time? It's a game that involves competition... You like competition or you don't

I think SC1 dying is fine since SC2 will prob be huge, I mean even when I got 2nd in wcg can in 2005 it was starting to die, the foreign scene was fading away, and I don't give a flying shit about koreans, take out koreans from broodwar, and the game is pretty much dead
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 01 2010 17:33 GMT
#73
On March 02 2010 01:55 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 01:49 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:37 Irrelevant wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:29 Fayth wrote:
wtf are there really foreigners who plan to be professional SC2 players? Why not just aim for the top without playing professionally?

"My dad once told me, if your good at something, don't do it for free" - The Joker

Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician, It's a game that's eventually going to die, and you make money from what, competitions only? Or you have to move in another country?(lol)

I dunno, I might be biased, I just think most talented, dedicated and highly competitive gamers should try out poker for a living while they play like SC2 competitively but not try to make a living out of it


Since when is being a musician something with any amazing potential? Oh you could being a pop star or some shit? Just cos a game isn't gonna get you the ladies doesn't mean its pointless to play. You play cos its fun and you would rather be playing a challenging game then sitting in-front of the telly vegetating or selling your soul in a pub or club making a fool of yourself.

I talked about being a musician cuz it also has very little potential, and you need to make it to the top to make any decent money, but music is never going to die, as opposed to SC2

Music is never going to die, just like games never will. You made wrong comparison mate
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 01 2010 17:36 GMT
#74
sc2 will last at least as long wc3 lasted. That's four or five years with a lot of tournaments and leagues with prize money, all over the world (not just Korea).

Why not compare CS:S and CS 1.6 with SC:BW and SC2?

Because CS:S was a piece of shit from the release. It had good graphics and some solid game engine, but everything else was a fail, from esports perspective. i know Arqon (from Q3 promode) was working on a mode that would work give the game back "the feel", while SC2 already has it.

Blizzard gives a damn. It's evolution, baby.
I am not good with quotes
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 17:39:50
March 01 2010 17:37 GMT
#75
On March 02 2010 02:31 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 02:12 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 02:10 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 02:05 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 02 2010 02:02 Fayth wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:58 Adeeler wrote:
On March 02 2010 01:41 Fayth wrote:
Dude it's just sooo time consuming with so little potential, It's not like being a musician

You are saying they complete opposite; as if playing a game has no reward/worth but music always will.

Just wondering what the so-said professional SC2 player will do once SC2 dies, go back to school? I mean come on.... What about life? How are you going to feed your kids? lol

Unless you plan on staying a lone geek ur whole life thinking only playing games really makes you happy, then go for it


So you suggest gambling instead of playing video games?

if you aim to make money, yes, poker is the only really profitable form of gambling so don't misunderstand me.... not any gambling lol


The house always wins. Poker is not reliable even if you can potentially earn a lot you can potentially lose everything. Also, its just so boring to play poker all the time...

Just as it is to play Starcraft all the time? It's a game that involves competition... You like competition or you don't

I think SC1 dying is fine since SC2 will prob be huge, I mean even when I got 2nd in wcg can in 2005 it was starting to die, the foreign scene was fading away, and I don't give a flying shit about koreans, take out koreans from broodwar, and the game is pretty much dead


SC2 will give fun competition as you'll be able to always play people of your own skill level thanks to the new ladder system. But where SC is different from poker is that you can constantly learn and become better in more realistic terms game by game where as poker being based on probability is not a game where you can force a win through shear skill and determination game by game; as luck dictates your hand(in poker) not your hand dictating your luck(in SC).
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 01 2010 17:43 GMT
#76
Yeah, Starcraft is a mindless waste of time, but that's what people said about rock & roll too at first. In my opinion excellent SC-play has an artistic quality similar to chess to a point where I really admire pro gamers and would never consider them "losers", just because they didn't go where the money is. With some luck SC2 will be where the money is, anyway.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
March 01 2010 17:47 GMT
#77
lol I can't believe there needs to be discussion about this, this should be painfully obvious to anyone who's ever anticipated a video game sequel.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
March 01 2010 17:49 GMT
#78
People who write these threads are people who haven't played the game yet. Believe me, the game is fucking awesome. It has the same feel as sc1 to it, the graphics are ridiculous, and it still requires a relatively high amount of apm to play the game well. This isn't just starcraft 2. This is starcraft broodwar new and improved. Its like starcraft was a zealot and was a badass that lasted a long time, then got reborn as a dragoon. It's different and it's buggy, but it's still awesome. The game is so much fun and I see it becoming really big as soon as it launches.
meow
brocoli
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil264 Posts
March 01 2010 17:49 GMT
#79
On March 02 2010 02:18 Hehlol wrote:
Hey guys why is this brand new game called Starcraft 2 killing the 11 year game called Starcraft?

While the answer may be incredibly clear and obvious, let's propose our THEORIES!


Hahahhaha oh lol

anyways, big tournaments will turn to SC2 if the game is good. And I see no way for it to become a bad game given how the Beta is coming... also coupled with Blizzard's support + 2 planned expansions, this game will be awesome.

SC1 will still survive in smaller hardcore circles though, and may even get a fair amount of Retro champs if the international progaming scene evolves. It seems to me that the two games are way too vastly different to be compared in the "superior" and "inferior" sense.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 01 2010 17:49 GMT
#80
starcraft has a bit of luck, prob not as much as poker but it has some, It's all about long terms results btw, obviously you'll win a shitload of money thru shear skill and determination

I've played both at a fairly high level and I can say both requires similar qualities..
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