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Theory on why SC2 is killing SC1's foreigner scene - Page 6

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r4j2ill
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada111 Posts
March 01 2010 19:25 GMT
#101
koreans have years of head start and its e-sports is very good there. here meh just play for fun ;D
The enemy of my enemy of my enemy is my enemy but his enemy is my friend ;D - r4j2ill
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 01 2010 19:50 GMT
#102
On March 02 2010 04:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 03:25 Fayth wrote:
Oh and to answer to Kyo Yuy, I wouldn't play poker if I didn't enjoy it, just saying most people here pursuing SC2 career would probably enjoy poker just as much as they enjoy video games, I get the same feeling off it....

and now I can play as much SC2 as I want without having to go work 8 hours thinking about playing the game, I'm not trying to be a douche here, just telling people they could make a good living off something they enjoy while being able to have a load of time on their hand to play games like SC2 without having to win the next big tournament to be able to eat


well evidently it doesn't get you love on these forums because in 23 posts you've done a smash up job as coming off as a pretty shallow and single-track minded guy.

We're all really happy you make lots of money with poker. Spend some of that on professional guidance on how to relate to those that don't give a fuck about your money.

PS: This comes off as really abrasive but I cannot stand people that make arguments like yours. Who are you to judge the value of this game to people? If they can "make money" while doing something they love why would you argue against that? Obviously there are better ways to make money.. but it doesn't involve SC so on a fucking SC forum they might discuss the melding of two awesome concepts.

For all your money you still have a LOT of maturity to achieve dude.


Still on the poker guy? Recommending a career choice and saying how its superior to what some1 else is doing is just idiotic I agree, but ignore the troll?

On topic though, what makes people so certain Sc2 will be as awesome. I'm playing BETA and all I see is an above average RTS. Doesn't have the same "feel" as BW
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 20:12:35
March 01 2010 20:11 GMT
#103
yeah dude I'm a troll because you missed the whole point

nice logic

Oh well my point doesn't get across, I know you hate everyone who plays poker Inc I saw some earlier posts about it, no need to involve ur feelings into this discussion
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 01 2010 20:17 GMT
#104
Two reasons for this and both already mentioned in thread so just let me sum it up for our new viewers:

1. Foreign scene needs head start. As soon as the korean pros start playing sc2 for real foreigners will be forgotten. So they need their 15 minutes...

2. Someone said "its all about the Benjamins" and that is absolutely correct. Dont kid yourself, sc1 is serious business in korea.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 01 2010 22:16 GMT
#105
On March 02 2010 03:25 Fayth wrote:
Oh and to answer to Kyo Yuy, I wouldn't play poker if I didn't enjoy it, just saying most people here pursuing SC2 career would probably enjoy poker just as much as they enjoy video games, I get the same feeling off it....

and now I can play as much SC2 as I want without having to go work 8 hours thinking about playing the game, I'm not trying to be a douche here, just telling people they could make a good living off something they enjoy while being able to have a load of time on their hand to play games like SC2 without having to win the next big tournament to be able to eat

You can't know that everyone else will feel the same way you do about it. Some people do. Some people don't. That's the way people are. Assuming your way is the way people should feel is incredibly presumptuous.

Some people like gaming and don't like poker. That's the way it is.
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Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 23:55:24
March 01 2010 23:54 GMT
#106
fayth, it's nice that you descend upon earth to educate a bunch of video game nerds about how the big boys play but you might have missed that we keep our own rl baller aka rekrul who already blessed us with his wisdom in 200x
Rek wrote: If you are intelligent you can make money grow on trees through poker. And remember. I did it the hard way. Its very easy to do nowadays.

so you come a little late, buddy, to save our sorry souls from eternal failure and as your posts lack any kind of fun factor usually found in rek's crazy life stories you're only a terrible bore with your self righteous and patronizing manner of spamming this thread.

get lost :|
dextahr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States47 Posts
March 02 2010 00:02 GMT
#107
SC1 never has any chance of becoming huge in the United States or any other non-asian country. SC2 also has a very slim chance of doing that, but hell, it's better than SC1's chances.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
March 02 2010 00:03 GMT
#108
On March 01 2010 23:58 IdrA wrote:
i lost all my skill when i started playing protoss so i cant really go back even if i wanted to

one problem with that statement idra...dts are hell to tech to in sc2 which means protoss doesnt have the imba unit 3-4 minutes into the game ^^
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
March 02 2010 00:06 GMT
#109
On March 02 2010 09:02 dextahr wrote:
SC1 never has any chance of becoming huge in the United States or any other non-asian country. SC2 also has a very slim chance of doing that, but hell, it's better than SC1's chances.

that "slim chance" is actually rather large....w/mlg...LOL mlg lets hope that if they do try to get a slice of this cake they play by our rules without players signing their soulzzzzz
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
March 02 2010 00:06 GMT
#110
I don't like when poker players act like other people are suckers for not doing what is easiest.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
March 02 2010 00:09 GMT
#111
I mean even rekrul has some fucked up form of modesty where he acknowledges that he is a mess, even though he acts outrageously cocky.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 00:57:32
March 02 2010 00:40 GMT
#112
i think SC1 will never die, just look at Counter strike 1, just look at Unreal Tournament 1
those game are old and still being played everyday,
but in the other hand i think SC2 will be a game with his community apart of SC1 community

i love so much SC1, i havent played sc2 yet dont have beta key but im sure i will be in love with it as soon as i play online, but im sad and happy at the same time
cause i just have playing SC1 in iccup almost 1year and im loving it and just SC2 appear
what to do ? play both ?
u cant love 2 ppl or yes? xD
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 02 2010 02:36 GMT
#113
On March 02 2010 09:03 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 23:58 IdrA wrote:
i lost all my skill when i started playing protoss so i cant really go back even if i wanted to

one problem with that statement idra...dts are hell to tech to in sc2 which means protoss doesnt have the imba unit 3-4 minutes into the game ^^

who needs dts when you have fuckin walking death stars

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JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
March 02 2010 03:48 GMT
#114
On March 02 2010 09:02 dextahr wrote:
SC1 never has any chance of becoming huge in the United States or any other non-asian country. SC2 also has a very slim chance of doing that, but hell, it's better than SC1's chances.

Hm its pretty huge as it is to me...
If you have to ask, you don't know.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
March 02 2010 04:07 GMT
#115
I really hope sc2 will deliver and become huge. Original starcraft is still the best game ever in my mind but it's just old now, I have no more fun to watch it or play it (besides nostalgia) why stay stuck in the past, I hope with sc2 everyone can move on.
here i am
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 04:34:56
March 02 2010 04:32 GMT
#116
I play SC2 because it's fun to me, not because I think I'll have a chance at "beating those darned Koreans." Heck, I cheer for them, being a Korean myself >.>

Just saying.

I don't care about the money. I want to play the darn game.

See, I think why Korean gaming is so different from "Foreign" gaming is because of culture. To Koreans, everything is a waste of time unless it eventually leads to money. To places like the US...we just like video games because they're fun >.>

Not saying that Koreans can't enjoy games; I'm sure they do enjoy games. They just have more pressure due to their culture to rake in cash through everything they do.
StarsPride
Profile Joined January 2010
United States364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 05:00:51
March 02 2010 04:58 GMT
#117
beating koreans is over rated.
If you have great passion for something and have the will to drive forward. Your ethnicity doesn't play a role...
I honestly think talent can be replaced by passion and willpower. maybe thats what the talent is. but it seems to be after playing wc3 at a high lvl. thats what it came down to..
Koreans have the advantadge of practice partners(sc1)
but with the game being fresh we all have the power to compete at an even level.. and i hope you guys dont lose sight of that.
its also possible that western market could boom with sc2 like korea did with sc.
Now with the economic crisis which replicated what south korea was going through when the SC boom took place.
it just depends on western culture taking risks.
InfC.Pride
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
March 02 2010 05:05 GMT
#118
On March 01 2010 23:31 Amber[LighT] wrote:
To be honest once you play SC2 you really can't go back to SC1. You start getting used to this new game and how it works and it's nothing like SC1. The game has so many new opportunities and everyone is trying to exploit the best strategies. Why bother playing SC when SC2 is nearly here?

I did try to play SC a week ago and it's like looking at an inferior game. Besides SC2 is so much fun to play!


just no. i think the only thing fun about it is its novelty. i've played it and i still think sc1 is way more fun to play.
Long live BroodWar!
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
March 02 2010 05:20 GMT
#119
SC2 gives a much better chance for non-Korean to actually win the Koreans. Though I do believe it's just a matter of time for the Koreans to dominate the world of Starcraft once again (assuming they do play SC2 in the same manner they're playing SC1).
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 02 2010 05:21 GMT
#120
The reason the foreigner scene is moving to SC2 is because we don't have a regular flow of money to support SC1, unlike Korea. If the rest of the world suddenly died, Korea would still have regular tournaments and Proleague - not so the other way around.

Obviously when it comes out all the ESPORTS organizations like MLG are going to be trying to make a buck off of SC2, because there's no centralized governing body like KeSPA to say anything - so that's where the tournament cash will be.
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