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On March 01 2010 23:45 Senx wrote:
Why bother playing SC:BW when the money will be in SC2 ?? The foreign BW scene has always been weak apart from the recent TSLs.
Alot of people have hopes that major tournaments and organizations will pick up SC2 since it'll be the game that brings the SC and Wc3 community together and that is why they are making the switch.
There have been between 25,000-30,000$$ in prizes in tournaments in 2009-2010 (not even counting TSL) ... that's actually a LOT more than even 2005-2006-2007 for example. 2008 was pretty solid as well.
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dont let the koreans fool you lol they will play sc2 .
they will be scouting it out maybe with managers and play pals till After release when they study the gave for a month or two before they start .switching over . they will love watching the replays and fine tuneing it over 8 hours a day of practice . the replays and stuff to help adept Fast fingers . fast fingers doesnt mean fast thinkers... they let us * beta testers and early adopters do the hard work lol
my two cents
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clueless people should not post their opinions as if theres a chance they might be correct
proleague is still going on and is still sc1, until that changes the teams are entirely focused on sc1. the war3 progamers are playing sc2 openly, and the sc1 progamers are not playing it at all.
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you really need a theory about this?
how bout it's STARCRAFT 2
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God damnit is it really that hard to understand that people might be interested in a new game and don't have time to play BW at the moment?
Give SC2 some frigging time god.
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Korea (South)3262 Posts
there will be no money in sc2 unless those running the tournaments (god forbid it is solely blizzard) learn how to market a game -- any game -- to the noncompetitive gamer and even the nongamer. The reason why Korean starcraft is so lucrative is because they've been able to do exactly that, just like every other major sport in the US: They've been able to create team loyalties, player loyalties, fan clubs... they've been able to get WOMEN to love games they don't even know how to play.
Of course, what good is such interests if there's no way to materialize that into advertising dollars? That's exactly why their tv broadcasting strategy works so well: they turn that marketing prowess into eager abiding eyes poring away at a TV screen while corporate brand names crawl around the screen. That's why they don't need to charge people to watch the game and why they can run tournaments without a main sponsor (MSL Survivor Tournaments?).
Of course, what if things go awry and the marketing efforts falter? Then you'd better have something like a government-sanctioned organization (KESPA) to fight on your behalf so you don't have people saying things like "video games are evil" and etc. Even if there is some truth behind those words, you NEVER hear about it in Korea because KeSPA effectively acts as a lobbyist. Yeah, KeSPA fucks up a lot; some people call them evil, whatever... but BW as a game would have not existed the past five years without them, and in many aspects the demand for SC2 wouldn't have been so tangible either.
These three reasons -- marketing, TV, independent supervisory organization -- is why the foreign BW scene fails and why SC2 will fail if it maintains the status quo. This is why i dread Blizzard's insistence on becoming a central figure in the tournament scene and forcing everything to go through BNET: Blizzard is great at making games but sucks at marketing. Yeah, they whupped ass with World of Warcraft -- but an RTS and a MMORPG are totally different things, for a whole variety of reasons i won't get into in this post.
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hmm just a question i want to ask. wth are ppl trying to compare starcraft with poker? there nothing alike. the only similarities is that theres some strategy and thinking in both (altho poker is alot more mind game heavy) so where did the stupid idea sprout that if u like starcraft ull have more fun playing poker? theres strategy in ANY game u play competively. SC>poker. just because i play SC does not mean ill enjoy poker or want to play poker. infact why would i want to play a gamble game where i risk loosing alot of money compared to a game where i loose no money at all if i loose? its stupid. stop comparing poker to SC there 2 completly diffrent worlds.
honestly its like trying to compare basketball to football. both are sports and both are competivive but there NOTHING alike. and being a basketball fan does not mean you will be a football fan by default or vice versa.
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United States47024 Posts
On March 02 2010 18:38 Ballistixz wrote:
hmm just a question i want to ask. wth are ppl trying to compare starcraft with poker? there nothing alike. the only similarities is that theres some strategy and thinking in both (altho poker is alot more mind game heavy) so where did the stupid idea sprout that if u like starcraft ull have more fun playing poker? theres strategy in ANY game u play competively. SC>poker. just because i play SC does not mean ill enjoy poker or want to play poker. infact why would i want to play a gamble game where i risk loosing alot of money compared to a game where i loose no money at all if i loose? its stupid. stop comparing poker to SC there 2 completly diffrent worlds.
honestly its like trying to compare basketball to football. both are sports and both are competivive but there NOTHING alike. and being a basketball fan does not mean you will be a football fan by default or vice versa.
Several prominent former Starcraft players (some of which who post on this site or it's sister site LiquidPoker) have gone on to be successful professional poker players. Some of those players have vouched for the fact that the thought processes involved in them are similar, and that success at one could imply reasonable success at the other.
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On March 02 2010 18:38 Ballistixz wrote:
hmm just a question i want to ask. wth are ppl trying to compare starcraft with poker? there nothing alike. the only similarities is that theres some strategy and thinking in both (altho poker is alot more mind game heavy) so where did the stupid idea sprout that if u like starcraft ull have more fun playing poker? theres strategy in ANY game u play competively. SC>poker. just because i play SC does not mean ill enjoy poker or want to play poker. infact why would i want to play a gamble game where i risk loosing alot of money compared to a game where i loose no money at all if i loose? its stupid. stop comparing poker to SC there 2 completly diffrent worlds.
honestly its like trying to compare basketball to football. both are sports and both are competivive but there NOTHING alike. and being a basketball fan does not mean you will be a football fan by default or vice versa.
Theres not a big risk in poker if you play smart and do proper bankroll management.
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United States33708 Posts
Umm...
Korean Progamers are getting paid to play Brood War.
Foreigners aren't.
Easy answer
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