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Waxangel
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United States33360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-25 08:32:19
February 24 2010 13:34 GMT
#1
Source: http://sc2.ygosu.com/news/?idx=2828

Lee Hyung Ju aka Check[Pooh] is a very succesful Warcraft III progamer who played the Night Elf race. During the original Warcraft III: ROC, he won the OnGameNet Warcraft III league twice, and placed top four in countless other tournaments. While he was never quite as dominant after the Frozen Throne expansion, he has continued to be a relevant progamer up to the present.

Now, he is playing the Starcraft II Beta and has easily taken the #1 spot in his division in the platinum league. YGosu interviewed him recently.



YGosu: Hello. It’s an honor to interview a Warcraft III hero such as yourself. Could we begin with a brief introduction?
Check: Hi, I’m Lee Hyung Ju, a Warcraft III progamer who’s thinking about switching to Starcraft II.

YGosu: Ah, so you plan to switch? I’ve played you a few times on the ladder, and each time I was scared s***less. So as a Warcraft III player, I doubt you’ve heard of YGosu… But what do you know of us?
Check: You’re a Starcraft community.

YGosu: Thank you for recognizing us. At YGosu, we like to set ourselves apart from other interviews with our lighter tone and humor. We also request a certain degree of frankness, which has made is famous in the Starcraft community. We look forward to your honest and entertaining answers!
Check: Ok.

YGosu: To begin with, we noticed that you’ve managed to be successful as a gamer even though you’re well over sixty years old. What is your secret?
Check: I was born in 1986, so I don’t think I’m sixty quite yet. When I get into a game, I try to think about that game non-stop, and cut out thoughts that are irrelevant.

YGosu: In Starcraft, 25~26 years old is already considered to be an upper limit, so I seem to have made a mistake in thinking it’s the same in Warcraft III. So you’re focusing on Starcraft II exclusively now?
Check: Yes, all-in with Starcraft II.

YGosu: Playing the Starcraft II ladder, I notice a lot of other Warcraft III gamers are focusing on Starcraft II. Is that how it is in the Warcraft III community right now, everyone is just naturally shifting to Starcraft II?
Check: Yeah, besides the WeMade Fox team, everyone seems to be going over.

YGosu: What’s different about the WeMade Fox team, is it because they are salaried?
Check: I don’t know the details, but the company hired them as Warcraft players, so I guess it’s right that they play Warcraft III.

YGosu: That’s a similar position as the Starcraft: BW gamers. If you’re part of a team, I suppose it’s the rule that you follow team policy. Then tell us what you think of Starcraft II.
Check: It’s still beta, but it seems very complete. The balance is alright, and I rate it highly from an E-sports perspective as well. It’s being streamed a lot lately, and it’s getting a good response from the viewers. It’s personally pretty fun to watch other guys play as well.

YGosu: Outside E-sports aspects, do you think Starcraft II is a fun game that the average person could enjoy?
Check: I think that maybe Brood War fans might not be able to get used to the fact that Starcraft II is in 3D. But it’s really similar to the original, and if they gave it a try I think they’d like it. The interface is more convenient, too.

YGosu: Now that you bring up the interface, it makes me curious. Fans of Broodwar and War3 are furiously typing it out over the internet about whether who Starcraft II will be more advantageous for. What do you think?
Check: Eh, it just comes down to individual skill.

YGosu: So you’re saying that because it’s a new game, it’s all up to the individual, and it doesn’t really matter what game they played before.
Check: Pretty much.

YGosu: Warcraft III pros are dominating the ladder right now. So you would say that this isn’t because they’re Warcraft III players, but because they are guys who were good enough at games to be pro-gamers?
Check: Yeah, I think they have the basic RTS instincts, and with the BW gamers tied up by their teams, just from the outside it looks like Warcraft III gamers are doing well. If we all started off the same, who knows what the result would be?

YGosu: It hasn’t really occurred yet, but everyone is relishing the moment BW and War3 gosus collide in Starcraft II. Which players do you think would adapt easily to Starcraft II?
Check: I think players who are doing well right now, like Jaedong and Flash etc would be all be good if they tried Starcraft II. Their basic ability to macro and micro is just so good…

YGosu: We’ll know the result of such a showdown someday. Personally, I’d throw my vote in with the Warcraft III pros. You guys are just so good right now…
What do you think the strengths of Stracraft II are? What are its most interesting characteristics and points of interest?
Check: The Korean translations are dubs aren’t awkward at all, the graphics are great, and Battle.net 2.0 is good.

YGosu: This question is about the gameplay. As you’re well aware, most of the high ranking platinum league players are either zerg or protoss. Why do you think Terran is doing so badly?
Check: There’s just no one who uses them correctly. I think it’s because they try to play it just like Brood War. I’ve been playing as Terran a lot lately, and they’re really strong. I was originally thinking of playing Zerg, but now I’m thinking about switching to terran.

YGosu: What do you think the strengths of Terran are?
Check: You can scan and see what your opponent is doing.

YGosu: Do you think scouting is such a huge advantage? As long as you know what your opponent is making, do you think terran is capable of putting together a strong counter?
Check: Like it is in any game, scouting is important. I don’t think Terran has any weak units, and if you combine them to counter your opponent they’re pretty strong.

YGosu: I would really like to ask for a specific strat here, but the competition is so fierce these days I’ll hold back. Are you going to continue streaming on Afreeca?
Check: I started yesterday, and I plan to keep on going.

YGosu: What kind of fun do you get out of interacting with your viewers in such a way?
Check: To be honest it’s not really to interact, it’s to get my name out there.

YGosu: So you’re advertising that “I, Check, am going to be the best Starcraft II player”?
Check: Yup.

YGosu: We await the day that the ID Check shows up at the finals of a Starcraft II proleague.
How about a parting word for our readers? They are the future Starcraft II viewers who might cheer for you one day…
Check: It was an honor to be interviewed, and I hope to do well in Starcraft II tournaments in the future.

YGosu: And a final resolution, and your pick for the next interview if you please? And umm, could you get your pick to talk to us? Please?
Check: Hmm, a bit ambiguous as to whom I should pick.

YGosu: If you could introduce us to a Warcraft III gamer who’s all-inning with Starcraft II, we would shed tears at your merciful gesture…
Check: That’s a bit tough…. There’s this kid called ZenioWerra, he’s #1 right now. I had his MSN, but I can’t seem to find it. I’ll get him for you.

YGosu: Ah, that ultra gosu who’s #1 in platinum division one. Then we trust in you! Thank you for the interview. We hope you do well in Starcraft II!.




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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
February 24 2010 13:38 GMT
#2
Check recommended Zenio and Zenio recommended Check
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
February 24 2010 13:41 GMT
#3
YGosu: What do you think the strengths of Terran are?
Check: You can scan and see what your opponent is doing.


What a genius!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
February 24 2010 13:44 GMT
#4
On February 24 2010 22:38 ReiKo wrote:
Check recommended Zenio and Zenio recommended Check


Actually this interview came first, I just translated them in reverse order
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
February 24 2010 13:44 GMT
#5
Rofl at this interview being put out after the Zenio one =P.
It sounds like Korea(ns) are taking this game seriously and it's nice to see that they have a devoted interest and that the game is worth their while.
I would love to see one of their Afreeca streams one of these days.
Thanks for the translation!
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
February 24 2010 13:46 GMT
#6
Thanks for the interviews Waxangel! Great reads
SCnai
Profile Joined February 2010
322 Posts
February 24 2010 14:08 GMT
#7
Good reads. Could someone link to his stream?
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Veneficus
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway11 Posts
February 24 2010 14:21 GMT
#8
Thanks a lot for the translations. Great reads!

YGosu: What kind of fun do you get out of interacting with your viewers in such a way?
Check: To be honest it’s not really to interact, it’s to get my name out there.

YGosu: So you’re advertising that “I, Check, am going to be the best Starcraft II player”?
Check: Yup.


Love the frankness of these answers
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
February 24 2010 14:40 GMT
#9
On February 24 2010 23:08 SCnai wrote:
Good reads. Could someone link to his stream?


I guess http://www.afreeca.com/web_search.htm?szSearchType=&szSearchValue=check those are the right ones but you can normally watch from korea only I think.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
February 24 2010 14:46 GMT
#10
Good to see WC3 players switching.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 24 2010 14:57 GMT
#11
I'm really pleased with these interviews, where is this guys' stream?!?!?!
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imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
February 24 2010 14:58 GMT
#12
wow check plays sc2 seriously .. and i think koreans will just continue to own starcraft!
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 24 2010 16:34 GMT
#13
On February 24 2010 23:58 imweakless wrote:
wow check plays sc2 seriously .. and i think koreans will just continue to own starcraft!

I hope fast expanding is their weakness
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imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
February 24 2010 16:39 GMT
#14
i hope they use livestream so that we can see their gosuness!^^
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Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 16:44:36
February 24 2010 16:44 GMT
#15
Hasn't every WC3 progamer said they were going to be the best at SC2?
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
February 24 2010 16:59 GMT
#16
On February 25 2010 01:44 Garrl wrote:
Hasn't every WC3 progamer said they were going to be the best at SC2?

What do you expect them to say, "I'm going to bust my ass but never amount to shit in SC2?" Have to believe in yourself if you're going to seriously attempt something.
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
February 24 2010 17:12 GMT
#17
Asians give the most boring interview answers.

Interesting stuff though, I can't wait to see Asia vs Europe vs America.
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eXNewB
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada291 Posts
February 24 2010 17:16 GMT
#18
WC3 players are dominating right now cause they're the only "
pro"gamers not being paid , BA DA BOM CHI!

YGosu makes me believe SCII will be huge :D
THERES NO WAY HE CAN STOP THOSE HYDRAS!
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
February 24 2010 17:27 GMT
#19
I disagree with his Terran statement regarding Fast Exposing.

First of all, Protoss will abuse the shit out of your bunkers blinking around ledges and into your main. Secondly, nearly all zergs are doing very aggressive attacks with roach/hydra/ling/baneling combinations, and it would be nearly suicide trying to 1rax FE.

That's about all I have to say about that.
Lythis
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany87 Posts
February 24 2010 17:27 GMT
#20
I really hope that SC2 will have its own top players. I just don't like the trend right now, which kind of hypes some oldschool Wc3/SC:BW progamers. It's a new game and people should focus on trying to beat them right now instead of trying to be "fans" in this early stage of SC2. I just feel way too much hype favoring these guys at the moment.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 24 2010 17:33 GMT
#21
On February 25 2010 02:27 GG.Win wrote:
I disagree with his Terran statement regarding Fast Exposing.

First of all, Protoss will abuse the shit out of your bunkers blinking around ledges and into your main. Secondly, nearly all zergs are doing very aggressive attacks with roach/hydra/ling/baneling combinations, and it would be nearly suicide trying to 1rax FE.

That's about all I have to say about that.

I think FE seems ok TvZ. But 1 rax FE TvP... Ehhh, I mean define 1 rax FE? I think you can maybe do it after some reaper pressure, or on Kulas Ravine (float). But I think you'll die on say Steppes of War, and it will be really difficult to hold something like the forward pylon->warp-in rush stuff.
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 18:19:37
February 24 2010 17:39 GMT
#22
On February 25 2010 02:27 GG.Win wrote:
I disagree with his Terran statement regarding Fast Exposing.

First of all, Protoss will abuse the shit out of your bunkers blinking around ledges and into your main. Secondly, nearly all zergs are doing very aggressive attacks with roach/hydra/ling/baneling combinations, and it would be nearly suicide trying to 1rax FE.

That's about all I have to say about that.

i dont know about vs protoss but vs zerg, at least on some maps, i believe the best is to do some kind of FE build, not necessarily 1 rax but getting an expansion has to be the way to go, 1 base builds just is too weak vs strong zerg players

i have to completely agree with Check that even here on US ladder where almost no terrans exist on the top of the ladder, it's because theyre doing it wrong, at least vs my zerg

EDIT:

oh hey LOL what do you know!? i swear I did not see this interview until after i wrote this post

YGosu: Oh, then you’re an Elite YGosu-er. In the spirit of our website, spit some truth.
Zenio: Well in that case, Terran is strong, but no one knows how to use them.

YGosu: Wow, a pretty strong statement there. So you mean the players aren’t used to the new Terran yet? Or that all the Terran users are chobos?
Zenio: I mean… I think so far that a lot of Warcraft III players are playing Starcraft II. They’re trying too hard to play the game like Warcraft III. How should I say this… they focus too much on microing units with special abilities, or trying to fight major battles with an army they’ve saved up. That’s not Starcraft. You have to make stuff quickly, burn through it quickly, and expand all the while. The Warcraft III players like to play off one base and complete their unit combinations.

YGosu: So you mean they are too passive, and too focused on battles?
Zenio: I’ve tried Terran a little bit, and it seems like going 1 barracks expand is good, just like Starcraft: Broodwar. No one uses this build though. I think resource oriented play is good.

YGosu: Most people seem to think that it’s very difficult to protect a fast expansion in Starcraft II, but you think Terran can pull it off?
Zenio: Yes, of course. If you scout them trying to attack you early, you can defend easily by building bunkers in time. If you defend a rush, then obviously you’re ahead. I think Terran can be very strong if they expand followed with a well timed attack, like Starcraft: BW.
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Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
February 24 2010 17:39 GMT
#23
Check have always been one of my favourite night elves, hopefully he'll do well in sc2
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
February 24 2010 17:50 GMT
#24
Thanks again for this interview
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
ggfobster
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
February 24 2010 18:34 GMT
#25
Found a VOD of Check vs Showtime both progamers on a chinese replays site that I've been using for a long time to download top WC3 replays.

http://news.replays.net/page/20100223/1454380.html
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
February 24 2010 20:02 GMT
#26
Thanks for the interview!
Kyouya
Profile Joined January 2008
Mexico318 Posts
February 24 2010 20:22 GMT
#27
On February 25 2010 03:34 ggfobster wrote:
Found a VOD of Check vs Showtime both progamers on a chinese replays site that I've been using for a long time to download top WC3 replays.

http://news.replays.net/page/20100223/1454380.html


Awesome, thanks!!!
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
February 24 2010 20:27 GMT
#28
Interesting how Zenio believes people should be playing this game more like BW while Check thinks the opposite. I'd have to agree with Zenio that FE builds will become the staple in the near future (once people figure out how to defend correctly and efficiently).
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15665 Posts
February 24 2010 20:31 GMT
#29
On February 25 2010 05:27 ArC_man wrote:
Interesting how Zenio believes people should be playing this game more like BW while Check thinks the opposite. I'd have to agree with Zenio that FE builds will become the staple in the near future (once people figure out how to defend correctly and efficiently).


I tend to agree with Check here. One of the main reasons that expo builds were so effective in SC1 was that defending and turtling was 100x easier. But now with all the various ways that each race can move around the map and whatnot, I plain and simply don't ever see SC2 being as expansion friendly as SC1. If anything, I would attribute Korea's tendency towards expanding as a result of being stuck in the ways of SC1, and Korean players in general probably not being as aggressive as Western players.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
February 24 2010 23:03 GMT
#30
While it's true that defending a fast expo is hard vs. 1-base attacks, if you *are* able to pull it off somehow you're so vastly ahead of your opponent that you just win the game by having a ton of stuff. Defending a 1fact FE in TvP in BW was pretty tough if your opponent did some serious early pressure or a well-timed bulldog, but it was certainly possible with good enough building placement / unit positioning / defensive micro, and if once you defended the game was over (usually). Whether it'll be possible to come up with a reasonable defensible FE build order in SC2 remains to be seen, but if it is discovered to be possible then I'd expect it to start to dominate trends and become standard.
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zfr
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia70 Posts
February 24 2010 23:18 GMT
#31
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but by the look of it a lot of the current sc2 ladder maps don't exactly make it easy on anyone trying to FE. It feels like it's more the maps stopping players from FE'ing rather than builds/placement.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15665 Posts
February 25 2010 04:15 GMT
#32
Anyone know the link to his stream? I'd love to see it.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
February 25 2010 10:58 GMT
#33
On February 25 2010 02:12 frequency wrote:
Asians give the most boring interview answers.

Interesting stuff though, I can't wait to see Asia vs Europe vs America.


vs Australia >:o

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NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
February 25 2010 11:40 GMT
#34
war3 player dominating the scene atm, that's just bs comon BW gamers go take him, i will definitely try when i get the sc2beta
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
February 27 2010 08:24 GMT
#35
Zenio's interview was much more interesting and I would way rather have a beer with him. Check gave boring, simple, predictable answers.
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