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Rothbardian
United States497 Posts
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lFrost
United States295 Posts
On February 21 2010 08:30 Jyvblamo wrote: Because proton decay hasn't been observed experimentally yet. but positron emission and electron capture has which amounts to the same thing. | ||
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Ideas
United States8173 Posts
On February 21 2010 09:22 HazMat wrote: Yeah its so annoying, especially how bad pvp is in the beta (nerf zealots in pvp) Last 10 games I've played 6 protoss 2 zergs 2 terran. sounds just like ICCUP | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 21 2010 05:29 Bosu wrote: I don't know for sure, but it looks like they get moved after a certain amount of time? Because people at the top of the divisions below platinum look like they have many more ELO points then anybody else. I'm really starting to not get divisons  It's like, I see people in Gold Division with 1400 pts which would put you near the top of the platinum division I'm in. What the hell is their purpose? If it's just to make people think "oh I'm ranked #10!!" then that's fucking retarded - I want to see where I'm ranked overall and I want to be able to see who is at the top -_- Is there a need for some seasons to pass before the system becomes accurate? I just don't get it ;p | ||
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ploy
United States416 Posts
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
On February 21 2010 12:55 FrozenArbiter wrote: I'm really starting to not get divisons It's like, I see people in Gold Division with 1400 pts which would put you near the top of the platinum division I'm in. What the hell is their purpose? If it's just to make people think "oh I'm ranked #10!!" then that's fucking retarded - I want to see where I'm ranked overall and I want to be able to see who is at the top -_- Is there a need for some seasons to pass before the system becomes accurate? I just don't get it ;p I don't have a beta key, so I'm only drawing on what I've watched of streams/screen shots/blizz con, but as far as the 1400 ELO in Gold League being higher than platinum league leaders thing goes, I think that the ELO rating is not an absolute ELO of the entire BNet population, but rather an ELO for those within their respective leagues. Since there are more plays in Gold League, it is to be expected that the highest rated players have higher ELOs than those in a smaller league, for example Platinum. Similarly, if I am not mistaken, all players start out at 1000 ELO, regardless of what league they start in, but that of course does not mean that they are rated as equals. From this analysis, I would then postulate that the purpose of the leagues is to separate players into group of similar skill level for ladder play (as one would assume), and that the ten placement games you play are probably much more accurate at placing players than many people are currently assuming, causing very few players to need to me moved between leagues. (In ideal condition it would pinpoint your skill to within .1% of the total population of players. This is more likely in practice closer to 1% or 2%, but with five leagues, you just have to be within 20% to get into the right league.) + Show Spoiler + Note that if any of the assumptions I make are wrong then what I'm saying makes no sense. I'm basing this on limited beta information, info from blizz con and my knowledge of statistics and competitive ranking systems. So if you play ladder games with people in different leagues or you don't start at 1000 ELO or whatever, tell me that I'm a stupid noob with no beta key and I should shut up. If this is the case, I apologize in advance. | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On February 21 2010 12:55 FrozenArbiter wrote: I think the rating is league specific, so a 1400 gold would get reset to 1000 if he moved up to plat. I'm really starting to not get divisons It's like, I see people in Gold Division with 1400 pts which would put you near the top of the platinum division I'm in. What the hell is their purpose? If it's just to make people think "oh I'm ranked #10!!" then that's fucking retarded - I want to see where I'm ranked overall and I want to be able to see who is at the top -_- Is there a need for some seasons to pass before the system becomes accurate? I just don't get it ;p What I don't get is how Dayvie is ~95-5 and only at 1200. There seem to be weird things going on with the rating between different divisions. Maybe there's that weird rating loss stuff going on? Like the game tries to move him up to "pro" but that league doesn't exist so he just gets a point reset? =/ | ||
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Roxen000
1226 Posts
I also don't understand this division stuff. | ||
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bdschuss
United States46 Posts
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ejac
United States1195 Posts
On February 21 2010 12:55 FrozenArbiter wrote: I'm really starting to not get divisons It's like, I see people in Gold Division with 1400 pts which would put you near the top of the platinum division I'm in. What the hell is their purpose? If it's just to make people think "oh I'm ranked #10!!" then that's fucking retarded - I want to see where I'm ranked overall and I want to be able to see who is at the top -_- Is there a need for some seasons to pass before the system becomes accurate? I just don't get it ;p The point of divisions (atleast theoretically) are a couple of things. First, so it gives people a reachable goal. Obviously if you're competing against 10000 other people, its pointless to try to be one of the top people, but if you're simply competing against 50, more than possible. Blizzard has stated they would have end season tournaments where the top 8 or so of each division and the person who won that would go on to compete the other winners of the other divisions. Second, its so people don't have to mass games to be in one of the top spots which is what happens in wc3 ladder. Those are two points I remember blizzard saying when they were discussing this, perhaps there are more, we'll see how it works out. | ||
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nMn
United States144 Posts
If you get moved up a division, it should be because some algorithm thought -hey this guy is playing above his skill division, we should move him so it doesn't unbalance gold or silver or whatever and make it unfair for the rest of the people-. Whether or not its actually working properly, eh I guess thats up for speculation. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On February 21 2010 13:51 starcraft911 wrote: I wonder if Columns is my buddy Pillars. He is, he already said in another thread. | ||
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CaioKuRt
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On February 21 2010 13:31 ejac wrote: The point of divisions (atleast theoretically) are a couple of things. First, so it gives people a reachable goal. Obviously if you're competing against 10000 other people, its pointless to try to be one of the top people, but if you're simply competing against 50, more than possible. Blizzard has stated they would have end season tournaments where the top 8 or so of each division and the person who won that would go on to compete the other winners of the other divisions. Second, its so people don't have to mass games to be in one of the top spots which is what happens in wc3 ladder. Those are two points I remember blizzard saying when they were discussing this, perhaps there are more, we'll see how it works out. That's fine, now give me a total rank as well - I mean, I'm already playing with people from outside my divison so there's nothing stopping them from having an overall ranking as well. | ||
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
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CowGoMoo
United States428 Posts
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