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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
November 20 2010 00:35 GMT
#14601
The Wednesday night fights section was great! Such a good way to see a bunch of top level games that are all new. Hope it continues.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
TheRushNetwork2
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada18 Posts
November 20 2010 01:03 GMT
#14602
Nice
You'll never know, if you never try.
Devilldog
Profile Joined October 2010
United States69 Posts
November 20 2010 02:51 GMT
#14603
wow 731 pages of posts but its well deserved, great community daily's both for helping out people who are not very good at the game and analyzing top top play <3
Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
November 20 2010 19:55 GMT
#14604
I just watched the first Wednesday Night Fight and I thought it was awesome. I'd love to see it continued. Since it's 2 bo1s and a bo3, it might be a great opportunity to try out some of the better community maps. Seeing every game on the same map pool can get kind of dull. Just something to consider for next time.
ded134
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2 Posts
November 20 2010 20:02 GMT
#14605
I have a request for a Newbie Tuesday which is to focus on scouting techniques for low level players. I am a new low level bronze and have watched a lot of dailies but still feel my scouting is lacking besides "scout the front" and wasting scans/ suiciding an ovie/ observer. I see rax/pool/gateway going up after finish my first pylon/depot/ovie then my next scouting attempt dies and I see nothing of use. Practice of course but a tuesday daily on it would be great. I have watched some others on youtube address it but I want to see your take on scouting. Thanks.
f0rk
Profile Joined March 2010
England172 Posts
November 20 2010 20:07 GMT
#14606
On November 21 2010 05:02 ded134 wrote:
I have a request for a Newbie Tuesday which is to focus on scouting techniques for low level players. I am a new low level bronze and have watched a lot of dailies but still feel my scouting is lacking besides "scout the front" and wasting scans/ suiciding an ovie/ observer. I see rax/pool/gateway going up after finish my first pylon/depot/ovie then my next scouting attempt dies and I see nothing of use. Practice of course but a tuesday daily on it would be great. I have watched some others on youtube address it but I want to see your take on scouting. Thanks.


At low level bronze there is a lot of other stuff you can fix (probably macro) before you need to worry about scouting.
DiZasteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Netherlands84 Posts
November 20 2010 20:17 GMT
#14607
Wednesday night fights was good! should continue it imo. Great work and keep doing it
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 20:43:41
November 20 2010 20:43 GMT
#14608
On November 21 2010 05:02 ded134 wrote:
I have a request for a Newbie Tuesday which is to focus on scouting techniques for low level players. I am a new low level bronze and have watched a lot of dailies but still feel my scouting is lacking besides "scout the front" and wasting scans/ suiciding an ovie/ observer. I see rax/pool/gateway going up after finish my first pylon/depot/ovie then my next scouting attempt dies and I see nothing of use. Practice of course but a tuesday daily on it would be great. I have watched some others on youtube address it but I want to see your take on scouting. Thanks.


This comes with experience. Just keep scouting, with more experience you will notice that a 4 gate usually means he saves chronoboost and he will be chronoboosting his warpgate tech alot, a gas at the same time a factory comes up for terran usually means banshee play or 2 fac play blue hellion play, etc. Focus on your macro, you can get into diamond by just being able to macro well.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
November 20 2010 20:45 GMT
#14609
On November 21 2010 05:07 f0rk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 05:02 ded134 wrote:
I have a request for a Newbie Tuesday which is to focus on scouting techniques for low level players. I am a new low level bronze and have watched a lot of dailies but still feel my scouting is lacking besides "scout the front" and wasting scans/ suiciding an ovie/ observer. I see rax/pool/gateway going up after finish my first pylon/depot/ovie then my next scouting attempt dies and I see nothing of use. Practice of course but a tuesday daily on it would be great. I have watched some others on youtube address it but I want to see your take on scouting. Thanks.


At low level bronze there is a lot of other stuff you can fix (probably macro) before you need to worry about scouting.


While it's true that macro is what you need to improve, daily 213 has a lot of nifty information of how to scout the front. Day turns on one players perspective only, and determines what the other player has, having never seen the replay before. It's pretty nifty.
Fojji
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom217 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 20:53:33
November 20 2010 20:51 GMT
#14610
On November 21 2010 05:02 ded134 wrote:
I have a request for a Newbie Tuesday which is to focus on scouting techniques for low level players. I am a new low level bronze and have watched a lot of dailies but still feel my scouting is lacking besides "scout the front" and wasting scans/ suiciding an ovie/ observer. I see rax/pool/gateway going up after finish my first pylon/depot/ovie then my next scouting attempt dies and I see nothing of use. Practice of course but a tuesday daily on it would be great. I have watched some others on youtube address it but I want to see your take on scouting. Thanks.


Macro macro macro macro macro macro macro macro.

Scouting, strategy, micro etc comes afterwards at higher levels, shouldn't be worrying so much about that yet, aside from obviously sending out periodic workers to check whats up
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
November 20 2010 21:33 GMT
#14611
On November 21 2010 05:02 ded134 wrote:
I have a request for a Newbie Tuesday which is to focus on scouting techniques for low level players. I am a new low level bronze and have watched a lot of dailies but still feel my scouting is lacking besides "scout the front" and wasting scans/ suiciding an ovie/ observer. I see rax/pool/gateway going up after finish my first pylon/depot/ovie then my next scouting attempt dies and I see nothing of use. Practice of course but a tuesday daily on it would be great. I have watched some others on youtube address it but I want to see your take on scouting. Thanks.


I'd consider having a look at the Day[9]/djWheat coaching session daily from a couple weeks ago, where Day[9] gets on Wheat about using hotkeys to keep making stuff while following an army or a scout around the map, but WITHOUT looking at your base. You're going to find that this initially feels very weird and takes a good deal of effort to practice, but once it's second nature, you'll find you're building tons of workers and units you didn't know you could, while still getting information from what scouts or your army sees.

This suggestion comes back to what other people are getting at when they say "macro macro macro," because "macro" is short for "keep buildings workers, don't queue workers or units up on production buildings, keep building units, don't get supply blocked."

Also, daily #132, "Back to the Basics," is where you should really start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
November 20 2010 21:37 GMT
#14612
It is so easy to "learn" to play as a hardcore newbie bronce player than later on as a experienced, but not so well doing gold player -.-

Cause if I wanna improve my stuff, I just keep falling back into my habits....
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
November 20 2010 21:45 GMT
#14613
On November 21 2010 06:37 enemy2010 wrote:
It is so easy to "learn" to play as a hardcore newbie bronce player than later on as a experienced, but not so well doing gold player -.-

Cause if I wanna improve my stuff, I just keep falling back into my habits....


Tell me about it, I'm in the same boat! :D Just keep pushing yourself to consciously alter what you're doing. It's retraining your habits that will help you improve.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
November 20 2010 23:35 GMT
#14614
Wednesday night fights are awesome. I actually don't know which one I like more: Day9's excitement-filled casts of games that are going on live (he honestly makes the games sound much closer than they might actually be, especially at IEM in Cologne), or when he analyses games, or funday mondays, or friendday wednesdays, or stuff like the live coaching session with djWheat. All of them are 100% amazing, and mixing them up based on different days of the week was a great idea.

I'd donate if I wasn't a poor college student myself. I hope he will find the time to be able to continue on doing Wednesday night fights, and hopefully people will keep donating him money especially since he said he pays those 100 bucks himself for the winner of Wednesday night fights. He does so much for this community, it's incredible. He really is the ambassador of eSports.
Coraz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States252 Posts
November 21 2010 02:10 GMT
#14615
day9: do fight nights with iccup maps to mobilize support for non-lame actiblizzion maps

millions of nerds will bend to your will
Dr. Stan is my hero ((: - http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
November 21 2010 02:21 GMT
#14616
On November 21 2010 11:10 Coraz wrote:
day9: do fight nights with iccup maps to mobilize support for non-lame actiblizzion maps

millions of nerds will bend to your will

please do this!!
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
November 21 2010 02:24 GMT
#14617
On November 21 2010 11:10 Coraz wrote:
day9: do fight nights with iccup maps to mobilize support for non-lame actiblizzion maps

millions of nerds will bend to your will

Please.

I'm tired of Blizzard not letting me take a third base.
Iracor
Profile Joined September 2010
United States66 Posts
November 21 2010 02:41 GMT
#14618
On November 21 2010 11:10 Coraz wrote:
day9: do fight nights with iccup maps to mobilize support for non-lame actiblizzion maps

millions of nerds will bend to your will

Or even just use Blizzard maps minus rocks that manner block expo locations
ded134
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2 Posts
November 21 2010 02:46 GMT
#14619
Thanks to all with advice. I will focus on hotkeys and continuing to build while atking, scouting, etc. but I still feel like I always guess wrong on units and lose. Takes a while to get it down I guess, game is like a job! Will check out those other dailies as well.
BWILLdur
Profile Joined October 2010
United States100 Posts
November 21 2010 03:58 GMT
#14620
[QUOTE]On November 21 2010 11:10 Coraz wrote:
day9: do fight nights with iccup maps to mobilize support for non-lame actiblizzion maps

qft
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