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Spoink
Profile Joined December 2012
Austria150 Posts
February 20 2013 21:40 GMT
#41
Looks like a lot of fun. :D
Gonna try it out as soon as i get back home.
Mahtasooma
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany475 Posts
February 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#42
On February 21 2013 03:07 Tsubbi wrote:
wouldnt put too much effort into hellbat guides lol


This absolutely. A unit that deals 30 splash to light in a cone with speed 2 which is still more than decent against everything else including static defenses is.. you know. The evil word.
http://twitch.tv/mahtasooma
Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
February 20 2013 22:06 GMT
#43
I lost with it wtf? he had a wallof and roaches... wtf?
Harbinger631
Profile Joined September 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 22:13:35
February 20 2013 22:08 GMT
#44
The only real benefit banelings have to roaches I can think is that banelings don't eat up supply like roaches do, allowing a stronger economy before you decide to prepare for an all-in. And the fact you don't have to use roaches.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 20 2013 22:17 GMT
#45
On February 21 2013 07:06 Dirkinity wrote:
I lost with it wtf? he had a wallof and roaches... wtf?


How many roaches did he have? Why didn't you just kill the roaches and move in? Or skill the spine?

Post a replay.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 22:52:34
February 20 2013 22:51 GMT
#46
its better to get 2 refineries as you can get reactor on both factories then (reactor thru barracks). Put 2 scvs in each gas once you have 2 gas (build second at like 15 sply). You can get more hellbats that way.
Amove for Aiur
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
February 20 2013 22:54 GMT
#47
I'm hoping this becomes more popular, as my opener is really strong against it :p
Lakona
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada110 Posts
February 20 2013 22:56 GMT
#48
On February 21 2013 07:51 Snusmumriken wrote:
its better to get 2 refineries as you can get reactor on both factories then (reactor thru barracks). Put 2 scvs in each gas once you have 2 gas (build second at like 15 sply). You can get more hellbats that way.


You still get two reactors off the gas first build with no 2nd gas (clarified this in the OP, didn't notice I'd left it out). Getting a 2nd gas after going gas first cuts into helion production and you ultimately end up with less of them for the fastest possible timing.
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
February 20 2013 23:22 GMT
#49
As a Zerg player I'm really happy when stuff like this surfaces. Shine a light on the imba
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
February 20 2013 23:49 GMT
#50
On February 21 2013 08:22 koOma wrote:
As a Zerg player I'm really happy when stuff like this surfaces. Shine a light on the imba


I think this is more a case of Zerg players not knowing how to respond to this attack rather than any imbalance. Competent Zerg players should be able to hold it with more experience against it.
800800
Profile Joined October 2011
Afghanistan64 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 00:02:18
February 21 2013 00:00 GMT
#51
On February 21 2013 04:12 Ambre wrote:
Thx for posting this. If it's as OP as it seems, spreading the build will make a patch come faster

Good job !


Some one should post this on the battle.net forum and add link to this thread.
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
February 21 2013 00:50 GMT
#52
And even if Hellbats are imba, you know what is imba too? The fact that Zerg can mass Infestor every single game in WoL and have a 85% winrate just by doing that and then a moving Broodlords. They still have not fixed that in WoL after months and months of Zerg domination. And you guys cry because of a little Hellbat lol...
Von
Profile Joined May 2009
United States363 Posts
February 21 2013 01:00 GMT
#53
On February 21 2013 03:40 Umpteen wrote:
For the time-poor amongst us, I present the condensed version of the rest of this thread:

Hellbats imba!
No they're not!
Maybe a slight nerf...
Blizzard are fucking morons if they change this...
Techlab...
Powerful early aggression will increase variety in the game and restore viewer numbers, just look at 4-gate in PvP...
Broken...
Well if you're going to make nothing but drones until 70 supply what do you want to happen?
Zergs can attack at 7:00 too...
Blizzard are fucking morons if they don't change this...
This is what happens when you design something inelegantly...



lol man. R U PSYCHIC!??

But seriously, this:

You don't know jack about 20th century military ordnance.


A clear thread winner.

Game. Set. Match




If its not fun I dont want it.
Doominator10
Profile Joined August 2012
United States515 Posts
February 21 2013 01:40 GMT
#54
On February 21 2013 10:00 Von wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 03:40 Umpteen wrote:
For the time-poor amongst us, I present the condensed version of the rest of this thread:

Hellbats imba!
No they're not!
Maybe a slight nerf...
Blizzard are fucking morons if they change this...
Techlab...
Powerful early aggression will increase variety in the game and restore viewer numbers, just look at 4-gate in PvP...
Broken...
Well if you're going to make nothing but drones until 70 supply what do you want to happen?
Zergs can attack at 7:00 too...
Blizzard are fucking morons if they don't change this...
This is what happens when you design something inelegantly...



lol man. R U PSYCHIC!??

But seriously, this:

Show nested quote +
You don't know jack about 20th century military ordnance.


A clear thread winner.

Game. Set. Match





I completely agree w/ this sentiment

On the OP: Quick, Efficient, HIGHLY abusive since it looks like it SHOULD hit @ 7mins on the spot. I like it. Will help me w/ dat portrait farming... oh wait. It's xp now instead of wins. FUUUUUU
Your DOOM has arrived,,,, and is handing out cookies
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 02:06:16
February 21 2013 01:43 GMT
#55
oh god. fuck. well good thing I've been doing roach pressure builds. this sounds horrible to deal with. watching the vod actually made me laugh pretty hard. nice thread summary by Umpteen as well.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
GPThunder
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada53 Posts
February 21 2013 02:29 GMT
#56
What time does 2 base muta hit? Is that an alternative?
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
February 21 2013 02:46 GMT
#57
This is what happens when you have a unit which is cheaper, does more DPS, and has about the same HP as what should be its counter unit.
vibeo gane,
Rowrin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 03:12:51
February 21 2013 03:12 GMT
#58
I keep reading people saying "go banelings, go banelings"

No. As a terran I can tell you straight up this will not work. All I'd have to do is put the hellbats (all or some) back into hellion mode and I'll kite banelings all day.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
February 21 2013 03:16 GMT
#59
It's called overlord speed buff. Can't get drone into main to scout? Send in an OV. It might die, but its worth just knowing the gas timing/opener. Actually, I have zergs risk saccing a drone to get on my ramp and see the factory next to my rax (since i want them close to eachother for reactor swap). 2 marines don't usually take out a drone fast enough to deny this scout.

Also, roach warden is pretty standard anyway when you scout early factory tech, unless zerg is playing super greedy and trying to hold it off with just lings and queens (which often works in WoL).
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
February 21 2013 03:22 GMT
#60
On February 21 2013 12:12 Rowrin wrote:
I keep reading people saying "go banelings, go banelings"

No. As a terran I can tell you straight up this will not work. All I'd have to do is put the hellbats (all or some) back into hellion mode and I'll kite banelings all day.


Good luck doing economic damage while tanking lings/queens in hellion mode. Remember, this is a stupid all-in that needs to do damage to economy or else zerg will race ahead in tech.
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