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[G/D] It's alright Zergs your sAviOr has arrived!

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Dwarda
Profile Joined May 2011
United States16 Posts
February 14 2013 05:07 GMT
#1
Just kidding =P I am a 1131 point masters Zerg player in the HotS beta and I told myself that i'll be more involved with the community when HotS came out but i decided the time was now. So I have been mousing around these forums and I understand that some of my fellow Zerg thugs have been having difficulty against some comps/strats and thus I decided it was time to rep my Zerg homies by trying to solve their problems. All these games were played today and hopefully you will learn some new tricks or two. Stay strong my zerg gs and remember you didnt choose the zerg life, the zerg life choose you. (Sorry for the goofy voice... and face =P)

Shameless stream plug: http://www.twitch.tv/Dwarda

Every game will have a description of what happened in the game. Watch the games that display the comps/strat you are having trouble with and if you want to ask questions I will try to answer them.

Against Terran (I go roach hydra and have to deal with multiple mid-game hellbat drops into hellbat/tank)(Sorry for audio)(2 hours before nerf ><) (19:02)
http://www.twitch.tv/dwarda/b/367100880?t=19m02s

How I deal with it

Multiple spores (more spores depending on how easily accessible the base is for drops)
Queens in position (they target medivacs)
Roaches (lings are bad in ZvT now =P)
Hydras (got to kill dem medevacs)


Against Zerg (I 15 hatch and hold spine ling all in without scouting it because I am bad) (35:36)
http://www.twitch.tv/dwarda/b/367100880?t=35m36s

How I deal with it

Hope the guys lags
Isolate lings from spine
Build 2 spines of your own
Build lings in your natural so if your main is a lost cause you just relocate


Against Protoss (skytoss) (44:05)
http://www.twitch.tv/dwarda/b/367100880?t=44m05s

Replay Analysis (1:04:04)
http://www.twitch.tv/dwarda/b/367100880?t=64m04s

How I deal with it

Tech switches
Hydras when he has voids and corrupters when he has phoenixes

Mass expand
I feel like you just have to do this as Zerg now

Constant trading
Even if you’re losing all the fight

Focus fire
This is key right here against skytoss

If you go hydras and plan on remaxing hydras focus the phoenixes down but if you plan on making a lot of corrupters then focus the voids

You will notice in one engagement I accidently select only 1 hydra instead all of them. I lose this engagement. I really lose that engagement.

Build macro hatches
Don't need ling and you will float money

You miss out on one remax and you lose

Split your army (Don’t see this because of the map)
Fake an attack somewhere with part of your army and attack somewhere not defended

Limit their economy
You just have too

Upgrade your stuff
You should have the money


Against Zerg (I try to go mutas he goes heavy ling pressure into roach hydra) (I lose this game but I heavily recommend it if you do not want to play mutas in ZvZ)(1:11:30)
http://www.twitch.tv/dwarda/b/367100880?t=71m30s

His rough build order
Safe expand into ling bling aggression
Transition into roaches with burrow movement
Send your roaches to his base before burrow movement is (so animation doesn’t give it away)
This feeds into a third as he techs to hydra
Split your roaches to attack the natural and main like this guy does


Against Protoss (I 15 hatch and goes forge first)(1:24:40)
http://www.twitch.tv/dwarda/b/367100880?t=84m40s

How I deal with it
I don’t it’s a BO loss
I transition into losing the game (tried to go SH)


Against Terran (I play roach hydra infestor while he plays MMM with widow mines +bio w/widow mine drops) (1:43:05)
http://www.twitch.tv/dwarda/b/367100880?t=103m05s

Replay Analysis (1:56:22)
http://www.twitch.tv/dwarda/b/367100880?t=116m20s

How I deal with it

Build overseer
You’re going to need it
Have it follow a unit (preferably a roach so the oversee is close to front lines to detect)( I don’t do this and thus lose my overseer to widow mines)
When clearing mine fields pull roaches back. Select your hydras and your overseer and clear field


When engaging in mine fields
The only way I have been able to do this effectively is trying to fungal the army outside the mine field. If they don’t make that mistake then I just do not attack there


Please leave any critiques or questions you have. I will try to answer them to the best of my knowledge.
I am going to 6pool u so hard and baneling bust your face... I mean base.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
February 14 2013 06:10 GMT
#2
Where are the 6 pools from your sig?
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
February 14 2013 09:05 GMT
#3
How does Protoss beat Mass Swarm Host, assuming they play standard and not mass Air. Had a GM zerg do this to me a few times on the HOTS beta and wasn't sure what the response was, because it sure wasnt archon collosus storm
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
Zypher_
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden27 Posts
February 14 2013 09:33 GMT
#4
On February 14 2013 18:05 Vlare wrote:
How does Protoss beat Mass Swarm Host, assuming they play standard and not mass Air. Had a GM zerg do this to me a few times on the HOTS beta and wasn't sure what the response was, because it sure wasn't archon colossus storm

I find it's hard too deal with a hitsquad of blink stalkers blinking in and sniping a couple of Sh every time the locus just left. I guess air and Dts would work if there's no detection/lack of anti air. 2 base colossi pushes stomp it pretty well too.

It seems like you lost the ZvZ game after the first ling aggression, he's just way ahead after that point, doubt this is a game showing how to make roach/hydra work. ^^
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
February 14 2013 17:27 GMT
#5
I'll definitely check these out tonight. I'm always down for replay analysis.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
Obamanation666
Profile Joined October 2011
United States70 Posts
February 14 2013 20:16 GMT
#6
How does Protoss beat Mass Swarm Host, assuming they play standard and not mass Air. Had a GM zerg do this to me a few times on the HOTS beta and wasn't sure what the response was, because it sure wasnt archon collosus storm


Define standard. I think their is a new standard, at least in this matchup. If you see mass swarmhosts, and your not ahead, your going to have to try to stall him and transition into skytoss. Preferably with plenty of Tempest followed by voidrays and storm, because you know corrupters are on the way.
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
February 14 2013 22:01 GMT
#7
i love how you wrote savior, hopefully you don´t end like him
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 14 2013 22:18 GMT
#8
Going to check them out
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
February 14 2013 22:34 GMT
#9
I miss savior . I never got to watch him love. Only vods
Dwarda
Profile Joined May 2011
United States16 Posts
February 14 2013 22:45 GMT
#10
I find it's hard too deal with a hitsquad of blink stalkers blinking in and sniping a couple of Sh every time the locus just left. I guess air and Dts would work if there's no detection/lack of anti air. 2 base colossi pushes stomp it pretty well too.

It seems like you lost the ZvZ game after the first ling aggression, he's just way ahead after that point, doubt this is a game showing how to make roach/hydra work. ^^


I know this is partially true but I do believe the follow up with roaches is a very strong follow-up. Even if I had not lost to the ling pressure, there was no way that the roach pressure would not do any damage against me.
I am going to 6pool u so hard and baneling bust your face... I mean base.
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