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Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
January 29 2013 22:13 GMT
#181
This is just a guess, but I think the beta will end on March 1st since that is the end of the ladder season.

I want to try out these afk strategies. They seem good.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
January 29 2013 22:21 GMT
#182
On January 30 2013 05:50 Ch3rry wrote:
For Zerg if I'm not doing AFK builds, I train Stephano PvZ 12:00 min 200-max-Roaches. With AI money u can have full roach army around 10 minute mark, and kill enemy AI until 15:00.

I need tips for Terran, have hardest time with them.

Try mass reaper? They can heal themselfs and can be massed from mass reactors, plus fast speed and cliff jumping
Stingart
Profile Joined July 2011
122 Posts
January 29 2013 22:28 GMT
#183
On January 30 2013 07:21 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 05:50 Ch3rry wrote:
For Zerg if I'm not doing AFK builds, I train Stephano PvZ 12:00 min 200-max-Roaches. With AI money u can have full roach army around 10 minute mark, and kill enemy AI until 15:00.

I need tips for Terran, have hardest time with them.

Try mass reaper? They can heal themselfs and can be massed from mass reactors, plus fast speed and cliff jumping


I know you haven't tried out reapers, if you did then you'd know how bad they are to level with.
ashara
Profile Joined July 2008
France22 Posts
January 29 2013 22:35 GMT
#184
On January 30 2013 04:08 Stingart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 03:02 [F_]aths wrote:
Yes zerg has some boons:

- You can spend minerals even if you maxed by building overlords
- You can spend gas even if you maxed by morphing overseers
- You can explode banes to free up supply
- You can use the nydus trick to get rid of ground supply quickly


What would you say is the fastest way as zerg to get 50K? Can you do 14 minute games?


With the ultralisk build I put page 6 you can usually reach 50k exp solo at around 12:20 ingame time, then stay one extra minute to finish bases for extra exp.

But fastest way to get exp so far for me is to add someone as Real-ID friend then play 4v4 with everyone 50% hp. 1 player in each team siphoning res from allied AIs. Then each player just build units and suicide them into other player. As Zerg you can build swarm hosts and overlord for instance as they don't attack.
With this 2 player build you can reach 50k in a bit more than 12 ingame minutes as well, but with Real-ID bonus it makes it between 62-65k at end of game, so slightly faster than solo play.
Melwach
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 22:48:30
January 29 2013 22:41 GMT
#185
On January 30 2013 04:22 DrSeRRoD wrote:
E: Is anyone running sub-15 minute 50k xp games with Terran? I'd like to know what strategies you are using.


Megaton 4v4, Cheater (Economy) and economic buildorder (!) CPUs. 70 % Handicap for the enemies, 50 % for your allies (or just tell them to stay inside their bases).
Stay on one base, build a few rax and supply depots. When you can ask for resources, start building rax (about 10-12) with reactors and just pump marines. Rally them at the middle and send group after group to engage the enemy. Don't destroy too much of their production and their eco with the first attacks, fight their armies. After the first few attacks it doesn't matter anymore.
After about 14 minutes, you've got your 50k. Might still be improved in some ways, but works very well. Upgrades don't hurt and help spending minerals and gas for extra xp.
Come for the culture. Stay for the cultural decline.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
January 29 2013 23:14 GMT
#186
On January 30 2013 07:28 Stingart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 07:21 Existor wrote:
On January 30 2013 05:50 Ch3rry wrote:
For Zerg if I'm not doing AFK builds, I train Stephano PvZ 12:00 min 200-max-Roaches. With AI money u can have full roach army around 10 minute mark, and kill enemy AI until 15:00.

I need tips for Terran, have hardest time with them.

Try mass reaper? They can heal themselfs and can be massed from mass reactors, plus fast speed and cliff jumping


I know you haven't tried out reapers, if you did then you'd know how bad they are to level with.

I've tried and it worked well sometimes, especially against 50% handicaped AI
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
January 30 2013 00:57 GMT
#187
On January 28 2013 15:11 Enchanted wrote:
I hit level 10 and it's saying Maximum level attained. Anyone know why this is happening ?


Hey did you find a fix?
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
January 30 2013 01:41 GMT
#188
Don't know if this is intended (probably isn't) but Protoss level 13-14 says next unlock is Medivac, which should actually be the Terran 13-14 unlock. Oracle portrait should be the Protoss one, but is glitched out for me, might try to get it by getting Terran level 14. Anyways, someone might wanna send a bug report to Blizzard about this, thanks.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
January 30 2013 02:00 GMT
#189
On January 30 2013 09:57 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 15:11 Enchanted wrote:
I hit level 10 and it's saying Maximum level attained. Anyone know why this is happening ?


Hey did you find a fix?



If anyone is having this or the negative bug problem please make a thread in the bnet forums and link it here.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 02:40:20
January 30 2013 02:39 GMT
#190
UPDATE
Hey everyone,

We are definitely aware of the various issues surrounding the leveling system in the HotS Beta right now. Though the timing of these issues is unfortunate, and certainly very frustrating for those of you working toward the level 30 rewards, I can assure you we're working hard to squash these bugs.

I'd like to ask that you consolidate your experiences with leveling system bugs here, rather than create new threads. Thank you very much for your patience, we'll provide more updates on the status of these issues as soon as we can.
-Spyrian



http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133#1
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
January 30 2013 05:35 GMT
#191
Dunno if it's been said but warping in templar, grabbing a drink and then storming themselves (rinse repeat) seems to be a great way to do it as Protoss.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
DON-ILYA
Profile Joined January 2013
Russian Federation11 Posts
January 30 2013 05:57 GMT
#192
On January 30 2013 14:35 TheDougler wrote:
Dunno if it's been said but warping in templar, grabbing a drink and then storming themselves (rinse repeat) seems to be a great way to do it as Protoss.


Warp 5-10 templars. Use pylons to make a cage. Warp dark templars and move them all into cage. You can also forcefield entrance. Storm eveyone in a cage => profit.
If nature wanted us to talk more than listen she would have given us two mouths and one ear.
Bargil
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States141 Posts
January 30 2013 06:01 GMT
#193
Just got 92k EXP in 30 mins as Protoss on Megaton 4v4.

All 3 ally AIs to Cheater Resources
All 4 enemies to Cheater Resources

Go straight for Voidray/Tempest/Carrier while simultaneously pumping out every upgrade in the book for Protoss, requesting 1000/1000 from AI allies every 1 minute or when needed. Try to starve your allies so you get all the kills but don't starve them too much where they can't help you. Around 20 min or so, you should have a good sized 3/3/3 Air Deathball (mothership is optional) and just A move to enemy bases. This is the time to just spam all your money on Nexii and gateways to get as much EXP as possible.

Keep producing tempest/voids/carriers or you can transition to colossus if you like.

Win game, don't accept GG just yet, destroy all units and buildings if you can for maximum xp. If this is your first win of the win, you will receive at LEAST 100k if done correctly.
youtube.com/BargilStarcraft
sunglasseson
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 08:15:21
January 30 2013 08:03 GMT
#194
On January 30 2013 15:01 Bargil wrote:
Just got 92k EXP in 30 mins as Protoss on Megaton 4v4.

All 3 ally AIs to Cheater Resources
All 4 enemies to Cheater Resources

Go straight for Voidray/Tempest/Carrier while simultaneously pumping out every upgrade in the book for Protoss, requesting 1000/1000 from AI allies every 1 minute or when needed. Try to starve your allies so you get all the kills but don't starve them too much where they can't help you. Around 20 min or so, you should have a good sized 3/3/3 Air Deathball (mothership is optional) and just A move to enemy bases. This is the time to just spam all your money on Nexii and gateways to get as much EXP as possible.

Keep producing tempest/voids/carriers or you can transition to colossus if you like.

Win game, don't accept GG just yet, destroy all units and buildings if you can for maximum xp. If this is your first win of the win, you will receive at LEAST 100k if done correctly.



u can solo 60k in 12mins tho

im looking for a masters level player (pref zerg) to do some games with me
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 08:26:03
January 30 2013 08:20 GMT
#195
On January 30 2013 04:08 Stingart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 03:02 [F_]aths wrote:
Yes zerg has some boons:

- You can spend minerals even if you maxed by building overlords
- You can spend gas even if you maxed by morphing overseers
- You can explode banes to free up supply
- You can use the nydus trick to get rid of ground supply quickly


What would you say is the fastest way as zerg to get 50K? Can you do 14 minute games?

Currently I try to quit a game when I don't get full XP anymore. With this approach, a game often lasts less than 14 real time minutes (but >14 minutes ingame-clock time.)

Generally I think lower-tech approaches work well. I tried ultra-ling for zerg, then went muta, then just roach-max (versus protoss.) As protoss, I mostly do void-rays. As terran I tried mass battlecruisers but rauder-max seems to be quicker (versus protoss, too.)

Don't waste your time to build up an economy on your own. Continue to request resources from the AI allies (both allies and enemys as Cheater Insane.) Just build enough SCVs to mass out those barracks.

Unless you are zerg, don't play with zerg allies. They will expand creep into your base. Also I rather don't play versus zerg because of the fungals which slows down my attack.

I usually only upgrade attack, not armor. The reason is that I want to lose my army in the first push anyway to remax. Also the enemies are set to 50% HP (this still delivers full XP for killing their units and buildings) to maw through them quickly.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
sunglasseson
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 08:51:40
January 30 2013 08:40 GMT
#196
ive got this "win as zerg within 13-15 in game mins" down pretty pat if anyone wants a replay or i guess i could stream it...


justin.tv/eosgreen if anyone is interested its pretty simple
Lephex
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany153 Posts
January 30 2013 11:52 GMT
#197
Any nice way for Protoss ? Just found some nice Z and T strategies in this thread. thank you
There are three types of people in this world: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who wonder what happened.
HoriZoNXI
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia310 Posts
January 30 2013 12:04 GMT
#198
On January 30 2013 20:52 Lephex wrote:
Any nice way for Protoss ? Just found some nice Z and T strategies in this thread. thank you


4v4 strat. Go normal gateway into cybernetics core then research warpgate and make about 20-30 warpgates. Get a twilight council (research charge) and a templar archives. Remember to continually drain resources from allies. Warp zealots when you're high on minerals and high templar (morph into archons) when you're high on gas. Attack around 10-11 minutes with allies then order them to pull back when you're sure you can defeat all the AI by yourself. Continually warp in units until the exp decrease occurs and leave immediately (optional for maximum efficiency). Should take no more than 15 minutes.
Ch3rry
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland228 Posts
January 30 2013 12:11 GMT
#199
Zerg no brainer:
[image loading]
3x Cheater Insane Economic AI Ally
1x Very Easy Enemy
Spam Hatcheries, Queens, Overlords
Morph Hatcheries to Lair
Morph Overlords into Overseers

Not the fastest, but WAY EASIEST sub-bronze difficulty
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
January 30 2013 12:37 GMT
#200
I tried rushing Ultras but they were very hit or miss. When the enemy army stacked behind buildings, the ultras would get demolished in the first wave and ended up being about 2-3 minutes slower than mass +1 mutas. When they would successfully slash the armies into pieces, they were about on par or slightly faster than my muta cloud but less mobile. Definitely sticking to the consistent mutas, especially for the mobility and awesome regen. If I get hit hard, I run out and wait for the next wave and they are all back to green and ready to fight again.
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