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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
October 25 2012 17:53 GMT
#121
It seems dumb to me, but if it's what Sc2 needs to attract newer players, then so be it.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
October 25 2012 17:53 GMT
#122
On October 26 2012 02:47 Noocta wrote:
People on TL might think it's a bad idea because we're all elitist and shit, but it's actually something every succesfull game has been doing recently.

And the way they are doing it seems really good.
Gaining bonus for playing with friends ? Good. Bonus if I play everyday ? Good.
Don't you guy have any idea the succes daily quests have in WoW ?
Or even the succes of the " Win of the Day" in LoL ?

The way the game is right now, with nothing but your own will to motivate you to play IS NOT WORKING.


No... TL.net used to be elitist, now it's packed with noobs and casuals. A good thing in my eyes.
tritonice
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 17:55:16
October 25 2012 17:54 GMT
#123
I'm fine with this, and it will have some holding power, but not for very long. I am in the wait-and-see mode at the moment. Blizzard seems to be rolling out several features for HOTS, and some more will probably be revealed. There are some good improvements, and hopefully more will roll out. I will play SC2 no matter what with a mix of ladder and monobattle customs for the most part.

My main complaint is the ladder. I am a big boy, just show me where I rank across the entire silver ladder. What is the purpose of the 100 person group? I know they made some changes to better reflect where you are relative to promotion, but that has a limit in given 100 person groups. If I know I am ranked 24,637 out of 54,382 current season silver players, that gives me more incentive than rank 24 of an arbitrary set of 100 players.
IronMaidenPwnz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 17:55:03
October 25 2012 17:54 GMT
#124
On October 26 2012 02:27 Noispaxen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 02:25 IronMaidenPwnz wrote:
The reddit thread is filled with Blizzard bitches who just immediately downvote anyone who doesn't think it's a good idea. What a retarded community.


So maybe instead of making a whining post about it here, at least give some reasons for which you think it's a bad idea?
Cause I sure would downvote you for this post here on TL, if I had an option to...


The idea itself isn't "bad". It just isn't good. How does this fix, or even effect in the slightest the issues that the community has been raising with the game's poor support of the casual player? Blizz likes to make quick meaningless changes to the game that get people excited for a short time, then it just dies off very quickly.

They're avoiding the major issue at hand completely. Now you tell me why it's such a glorious idea that will change the popularity and overall fun-ness of the game in a long term way? How does this effect anyone besides the competitive player?
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
October 25 2012 17:54 GMT
#125
On October 26 2012 02:48 Sakray wrote:
"LoL is very successful atm, let's pick some of their features and implement them into HotS !"

That's how I see it.

How is having an XP system LoL's idea? They made Warcraft, pretty-much the origin of experience in RTS games, as I see it they should of implemented this from the start of WoL, no-one would have moaned then.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 18:00:50
October 25 2012 17:54 GMT
#126
" Blizzard need to think on more rewards for players to just keep playing, portraits aren't enough."

Well: portraits or decalls is all you gonna get from this, besides the xp itself wich seem even less apealing as a reward then the portraits.
you wont get annything you can use in a game of sc.
Xp is not enough to keep casuals interested annyway i think.



"Still not free to play.
This is just another reason for people that dont like the game to play it for no reason."

Also:THIS so much.
Enearde
Profile Joined February 2011
France265 Posts
October 25 2012 17:54 GMT
#127
On October 26 2012 02:45 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 02:44 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Even tho I still want clan system and replay sharing, I still feel this might just be the thing the casual gamers need!


You will get your clan system in HotS....


And the replay sharing too...

OT: Not a bad move, it can be a really strong incentive for a lot of people who wasn't good at the game to continue playing. Like even if you don't get a promotion, you still earn XP and portraits, decals...love it. I like the idea myself even tho i'm not so much a casual but it makes me feel like i'm accomplishing something which can makes me try harder. Self satisfaction can be what lots of people need to ladder. Keeps the ladder anxiety quiet and let you enjoy the game even if you lose 3 out of 5 games.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
October 25 2012 17:54 GMT
#128
On October 26 2012 02:53 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 02:47 Noocta wrote:
People on TL might think it's a bad idea because we're all elitist and shit, but it's actually something every succesfull game has been doing recently.

And the way they are doing it seems really good.
Gaining bonus for playing with friends ? Good. Bonus if I play everyday ? Good.
Don't you guy have any idea the succes daily quests have in WoW ?
Or even the succes of the " Win of the Day" in LoL ?

The way the game is right now, with nothing but your own will to motivate you to play IS NOT WORKING.


No... TL.net used to be elitist, now it's packed with noobs and casuals. A good thing in my eyes.


True. Some guy who just posted here doesn't even know this kind of lvling system existed in WC3 and said Blizz is ripping of LoL. lol!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
October 25 2012 17:55 GMT
#129
First step to free-to-play?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
October 25 2012 17:55 GMT
#130
On October 26 2012 02:54 tritonice wrote:
I'm fine with this, and it will have some holding power, but not for very long. I am in the wait and see mode at the moment. Blizzard seems to be rolling out several features for HOTS, and some more will probably be revealed.

My main complaint is the ladder. I am a big boy, just show me where I rank across the entire silver ladder. What is the purpose of the 100 person group? I know they made some changes to better reflect where you are relative to promotion, but that has a limit in given 100 person groups. If I know I am ranked 24,637 out of 54,382 current season silver players, that gives me more incentive than rank 24 of an arbitrary set of 100 players.


What's more motivating for casuals: to outdo ~100 people or thousands? Now you know why Blizzard do this.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
October 25 2012 17:56 GMT
#131
Still not free to play.
This is just another reason for people that dont like the game to play it for no reason.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
October 25 2012 17:56 GMT
#132
On October 26 2012 02:49 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 02:42 Gheed wrote:
A lot of hardcore people on TL will think this is stupid, but I think this is a very good idea and it shows Blizzard is at least trying to think of ways to encourage people to stay active on the ladder.


I think it's a good idea, but currently it's useless. There is no difference with the previous system except that you get a new shiny xp bar. You gain rewards exactly the same way as you did before, by winning. So currently, yes it's stupid and I don't see how it encourages people to stay active in the ladder.

Pretty much this. I mean for LoL, you are at least getting those extra mastery points and unlocking rune slots and the like. And then it turns out Tier 3 runes are very expensive, so you need to play some more to get the better runes. (Which in turn is as choice between buying more heroes or upgrading your Rune page.) So that works for MOBA games, not so much for RTS. Here, it's really just re-arranging the same deck of cards (the portrait system.) It could probably be built upon, but for now...

So, whatever. It's a change that I don't much care about, but not something to get up in arms about.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
October 25 2012 17:57 GMT
#133
would be nice to get maybe unit with different models for leveling up instead of just decals and portraits
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
October 25 2012 17:57 GMT
#134
people need goals to reach to keep playing. You just gave them another one, good job Blizzard
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
October 25 2012 17:58 GMT
#135
On October 26 2012 02:57 GizmoPT wrote:
would be nice to get maybe unit with different models for leveling up instead of just decals and portraits


Different model for the same unit could potentially harm the gameplay.
FakeLife
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
October 25 2012 17:58 GMT
#136
This is a great change to give casuals a reason to press that find match button instead of getting scared and finding a less nerve-wracking game they can play.

And I can almost guarantee that this took comparatively little development time and is not going to interfere heavily with changes which should make the hardcore players who are already motivated happy.
nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
October 25 2012 17:58 GMT
#137


Still waiting for new meaningful features that were listed above:
Multiplayer resume from replay
Global Play
Multilanguage support
Clan/group system
Unranked matchmaking
Multiplayer replay viewing

Until those are implemented, I can't say I'm impressed or excited. Let's hope this will bring some casuals playing more consistently, even though I feel they will stop playing once they have reached max level.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
October 25 2012 17:58 GMT
#138
I like it. Nicely done blizzard!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
October 25 2012 17:58 GMT
#139
I like how they finally start taking small portions off the bulk of things that they want in sc2 - maybe lan and global play will be next.
Trotim
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany95 Posts
October 25 2012 17:59 GMT
#140
And another feature they finally brought back from Warcraft 3. Glad to see they're finally getting their stuff together.
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