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Do not beg for keys, offer to trade things for keys, or offer to buy keys in this thread.
grungust
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
September 06 2012 23:02 GMT
#1401
On September 07 2012 07:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
Incidentally, does anybody know the pro opinions of HoTS thus far? Be interested to hear what those who have got hands-on experience of the game think of it

ROOT gaming's new show had a bunch of pro's on and discussed what they thought so far.

Show thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366470
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
September 06 2012 23:05 GMT
#1402
On September 07 2012 08:02 grungust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
Incidentally, does anybody know the pro opinions of HoTS thus far? Be interested to hear what those who have got hands-on experience of the game think of it

ROOT gaming's new show had a bunch of pro's on and discussed what they thought so far.

Show thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366470

Thanks for the link man, will check it out. I know from watching the NASL stream last night that Rotti wasn't a big fan of how Protoss were shaping up
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
September 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#1403
On September 07 2012 08:05 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:02 grungust wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
Incidentally, does anybody know the pro opinions of HoTS thus far? Be interested to hear what those who have got hands-on experience of the game think of it

ROOT gaming's new show had a bunch of pro's on and discussed what they thought so far.

Show thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366470

Thanks for the link man, will check it out. I know from watching the NASL stream last night that Rotti wasn't a big fan of how Protoss were shaping up


Not many people are fans of protoss in HotS atm.
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wcr.4fun
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium686 Posts
September 06 2012 23:23 GMT
#1404
saw the most hilarious thing on root slush his stream. he was attacking rocks and suddenly NUKE EXPLOSION out of nowhere haha.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 06 2012 23:36 GMT
#1405
So did the ghost cloak change to the weird timed thing? Or is it still normal?
Jaedong.
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
September 06 2012 23:40 GMT
#1406
So I got into beta but I get the "Your account has no game accounts that can be used in this region. Are you using the correct client?" error when I try to log in... bug for anyone else?
http://www.twitch.tv/shew_tv | @ClarityShew on Twitter~
Trineal
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
September 06 2012 23:43 GMT
#1407
Ok, I hardly ever post my opinion on the game state or balance because I am one of the people who pretty much exclusively watches pro's and never plays. I feel like being a scrub limits how much I can reasonably theorycraft.

HOWEVER

I have one opinion I have held throughout the entire alpha of HOTS and that I want to share now that the beta is out: The tempest has a TON of potential to be a great unit. People have been shitting all over the tempest since its reveal, but in my humble opinion I think it could be a unit that exemplifies one of the most interesting and important aspects of SC2, namely positional play. I feel like it is more or less a fact that SC2 requires less micro and raw APM then BW. What less people would agree with, but I still feel is true, is that what has filled the hole in skill required to be high level in SC2 is the need for perfect positioning of armies. I think the skill ceiling on this aspect of the game could be greatly raised by the tempests in their current form.

For instance, I am imagining scenarios in PvT were protoss uses a handful of tempests, and observer/oracle abilities to rain attacks on terran's army from 22 range. Terran responds by sending a group of vikings to eliminate the threat. Protoss has to move his army in to save the tempests because they are such an investment. This forces the protoss army out of position, something the terran ground forces can take advantage of. Now the protoss has the advantage of the damage done with his tempests, but is slightly out of postion.

I'm not sure where it would go from there, but isn't that last paragraph 1000Xs more interesting then deathblob vs deathblob? So instead of going "Range is retarded and DPS is shit, scrap the tempest" think a little about the potential for how good players could use them and the dynamics that could lead to. Anyway, at least they are better than the warhound...
Imbalance: if you look at a unit from one race's perspective its "WTF" if you look at it from the other race's perspective its "FTW"
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
September 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#1408
On September 07 2012 02:00 XXXSmOke wrote:
So im a bit confused on where we are at invite wise, is it still only pros/1.5 contest/other few random invites? or have they down actual waves of invites yet?


They announced Pros, shoutcasters, etc. FF got some also.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
September 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#1409
On September 07 2012 08:23 wcr.4fun wrote:
saw the most hilarious thing on root slush his stream. he was attacking rocks and suddenly NUKE EXPLOSION out of nowhere haha.


You can deactivate ingame alarms now ( and irc standard is deactivated) . Not sure why you can do that just like the not beeing able to select opponents/neutral stuff you can activate/have to deactivate but its an option.

Btw the Cloak Ghost change is not in the game currently.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 06 2012 23:53 GMT
#1410
On September 07 2012 08:43 Trineal wrote:
Ok, I hardly ever post my opinion on the game state or balance because I am one of the people who pretty much exclusively watches pro's and never plays. I feel like being a scrub limits how much I can reasonably theorycraft.

HOWEVER

I have one opinion I have held throughout the entire alpha of HOTS and that I want to share now that the beta is out: The tempest has a TON of potential to be a great unit. People have been shitting all over the tempest since its reveal, but in my humble opinion I think it could be a unit that exemplifies one of the most interesting and important aspects of SC2, namely positional play. I feel like it is more or less a fact that SC2 requires less micro and raw APM then BW. What less people would agree with, but I still feel is true, is that what has filled the hole in skill required to be high level in SC2 is the need for perfect positioning of armies. I think the skill ceiling on this aspect of the game could be greatly raised by the tempests in their current form.

For instance, I am imagining scenarios in PvT were protoss uses a handful of tempests, and observer/oracle abilities to rain attacks on terran's army from 22 range. Terran responds by sending a group of vikings to eliminate the threat. Protoss has to move his army in to save the tempests because they are such an investment. This forces the protoss army out of position, something the terran ground forces can take advantage of. Now the protoss has the advantage of the damage done with his tempests, but is slightly out of postion.

I'm not sure where it would go from there, but isn't that last paragraph 1000Xs more interesting then deathblob vs deathblob? So instead of going "Range is retarded and DPS is shit, scrap the tempest" think a little about the potential for how good players could use them and the dynamics that could lead to. Anyway, at least they are better than the warhound...

The biggest problem with the Tempest is that it's a Protoss unit. Protoss doesn't have great anti-air and Stargate units just aren't very good army units. Terrans and Zergs can produce a lot of Vikings/Corrupters on a whim with Protoss having to invest lots of money into multiple Stargates to get a decent Tempest fleet. The numbers on the Tempest can change (right now it's DPS is really low ), but I think the other 2 races can deal with Protoss air units way too easily for Tempests to really be worth getting over many other units.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 00:33:05
September 07 2012 00:32 GMT
#1411
Crank can't seem to install the game, has anyone seen this error?

Error Screen
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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
September 07 2012 00:46 GMT
#1412
On September 06 2012 23:43 ZenZombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 23:25 DGB.Zerok wrote:
God I wonder when will first wave for "mortals" start :/


They have already started, they are just phasing us in gradually because otherwise we will crash the server like it happened with Diablo 3.

I would say within the next week another wave will hit.


Thx! So you mean like they are sending every day few keys or like every 10ish days one wave? I am assuming you have good info
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
September 07 2012 00:47 GMT
#1413
I still cant beleive that they accually made a unit thats has lower dps than carrier supply wise....
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Boyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States226 Posts
September 07 2012 01:09 GMT
#1414
On September 07 2012 08:40 Shew wrote:
So I got into beta but I get the "Your account has no game accounts that can be used in this region. Are you using the correct client?" error when I try to log in... bug for anyone else?


Same error, no idea what to do
plasemeious
Profile Joined November 2009
United States244 Posts
September 07 2012 01:16 GMT
#1415
I got an email from blizzard and got excited...it was a seven day trial to WoW for the new expansion. It was so dishearting
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 07 2012 01:19 GMT
#1416
I dont even get excited for new games often, but wow this looks sick to me
#TheOneTrueDong
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
September 07 2012 01:25 GMT
#1417
Bnet Feedback
Here we have a problem, in that too many voices seem to drown out any 'legitimate' problems that people have with the beta thus far.

Opinion on TL seems to be pretty much in agreement on certain issues (The warhound) but varies on some of the others. That said, I do feel it's worthwhile at some point really collating ideas/grievances into a more coherent document, get the assent of TL's userbase and present it in some way.

That's assuming Blizzard don't employ people to check community sites such as this to gather feedback.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
1yzarc1
Profile Joined May 2012
England19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 01:43:36
September 07 2012 01:43 GMT
#1418
Are all the EU and NA players playing on the same BETA server?
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
September 07 2012 01:46 GMT
#1419
On September 07 2012 08:40 Shew wrote:
So I got into beta but I get the "Your account has no game accounts that can be used in this region. Are you using the correct client?" error when I try to log in... bug for anyone else?


Im getting the same error and am yet to find a solution, anyone got any ideas/solutions??
Hello friends:)
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 01:47:26
September 07 2012 01:46 GMT
#1420
On September 07 2012 08:16 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:05 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:02 grungust wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
Incidentally, does anybody know the pro opinions of HoTS thus far? Be interested to hear what those who have got hands-on experience of the game think of it

ROOT gaming's new show had a bunch of pro's on and discussed what they thought so far.

Show thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366470

Thanks for the link man, will check it out. I know from watching the NASL stream last night that Rotti wasn't a big fan of how Protoss were shaping up


Not many people are fans of protoss in HotS atm.


I fail to see how any Protoss, at least, can be a fan of Protoss in HofS. I was not planning on playing HotS anyway but it really looks like Blizzard don't know what to do with Protoss. Assuming they have a LotV, by no means a certainty, I hope they return the race to some measure of coherency. At the moment, I really don't see it. :-/
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