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Kornholi0
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada634 Posts
November 04 2011 03:59 GMT
#41
If you mass marauder and pre-emptively build a turret at each gas every 30 seconds you should be able to do this...

The trick is to defend with your original units while you get turrets up. Once you've secured the first 3 terrazine gas, take the middle with marauders.

If you don't have the medic upgrades, it might be tough, but marauder medic is quite good.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 04 2011 05:49 GMT
#42
On November 04 2011 10:03 mikiao wrote:
ghost nuke for your anti air?


Ghosts shoot up so he wouldn't be allowed to build them.
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Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
November 04 2011 06:16 GMT
#43
On November 04 2011 14:49 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 10:03 mikiao wrote:
ghost nuke for your anti air?


Ghosts shoot up so he wouldn't be allowed to build them.

They have the ability that disable their auto attack.
Please do this mission where the only way you can kill air units is by nuking them
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TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
November 04 2011 19:41 GMT
#44
On November 04 2011 15:16 Bswhunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 14:49 Whitewing wrote:
On November 04 2011 10:03 mikiao wrote:
ghost nuke for your anti air?


Ghosts shoot up so he wouldn't be allowed to build them.

They have the ability that disable their auto attack.
Please do this mission where the only way you can kill air units is by nuking them


This might actually work.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 21:40:37
November 04 2011 21:39 GMT
#45
this is on brutal? I think it's impossible. Not because the air will rape you, but because you need the cheap high dps units like marines and goliaths to fight all that crap that the protoss ground forces contain.

edit- if you can somehow time all the attacks to line up with nukes though, that would be legit.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 04 2011 22:30 GMT
#46
On November 05 2011 06:39 SpoR wrote:
this is on brutal? I think it's impossible. Not because the air will rape you, but because you need the cheap high dps units like marines and goliaths to fight all that crap that the protoss ground forces contain.

edit- if you can somehow time all the attacks to line up with nukes though, that would be legit.


You could do it with siege tanks, turrets and hellions I think, it would be tough, but do-able. You'd have to use nukes the clear the area, then quickly build 3-4 turrets while your tanks siege up, and hellions shield for your tanks. You'd need to use hellion hit squads to pick off probes trying to block the gas, suicide 3-4 of them in. You'd need to clear the base in the middle of the map and take it pretty quick. It'd be tough, but do-able, especially if you have a bunch of mercenaries available like the marauders and the siege tank ones.

Nukes to clear areas though to give you time to get the turrets up would be a badass way to do it.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 06 2011 09:38 GMT
#47
I just realized, you can't use nukes, you can't have ghosts available for that mission, or spectres. You get them in the mission after that one -_-.
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shoop
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 15:50:15
November 06 2011 15:41 GMT
#48
I think it should be hard but doable with turrets, marauders and hellions. Tanks may be useful but I don't know that they have enough ground forces to make them worthwhile. Nukes might also work, but you'll have to keep the ghosts from shooting up somehow Do you have ravens?

@plexa: I did the whole campaign on hard mode without building any units whatever. I suspect that brutal without marines would be easy by comparison, except perhaps in the first few missions when there are no alternatives yet (esp. zero hour).
mikiao
Profile Joined May 2010
United States161 Posts
November 06 2011 20:16 GMT
#49
On November 06 2011 18:38 Whitewing wrote:
I just realized, you can't use nukes, you can't have ghosts available for that mission, or spectres. You get them in the mission after that one -_-.



Damn...go back and redo it? Man...the first great idea I've had in millennia and it turns out to be a dud.
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Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 06 2011 20:41 GMT
#50
On November 03 2011 20:38 Plexa wrote:
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On November 02 2011 04:56 Whitewing wrote:
No, the real challenge is doing the entire campaign without marines OR siege tanks.

And no laboratory upgrades either.

I'm not worried about siege tanks, they're not overly amazing until they reach critical mass. For instance, doing the dig is quite difficult without marines because there isn't a good spammable unit to deflect all the protoss and that keeps impeding on your tank mass.



Just wall with permacloak ghosts. Don't need tanks or marines
IGotPlayguuu
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy660 Posts
November 06 2011 20:44 GMT
#51
It's gonna be a hard challenge
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
November 06 2011 21:27 GMT
#52
On November 04 2011 05:54 sigm wrote:
You want a real challenge? No upgrades whatsoever, no mercenaries, mission starting units ONLY. And you have to play naked. Each time you complete a mission, take a shot of your preferred drink (80 proof at least). Each time you lose, pour a gallon of ice water on yourself.

Or you could just play solitaire...
Conquerer67
Profile Joined May 2011
United States605 Posts
November 08 2011 02:46 GMT
#53
On November 07 2011 05:16 mikiao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 18:38 Whitewing wrote:
I just realized, you can't use nukes, you can't have ghosts available for that mission, or spectres. You get them in the mission after that one -_-.



Damn...go back and redo it? Man...the first great idea I've had in millennia and it turns out to be a dud.


You can't use units that you haven't had unlocked when you actually played the mission. IE, using spectres in Devil's Playground, or using BCs in The Evacuation.

As for what a real challenge is, complete every single mission with only building workers, no combat buildings or units. You have to suicide your starting units too, no mercs, and the only armory upgrades you can get are orbital command and the two SCV ones. Try that one out.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 08 2011 05:35 GMT
#54
On November 08 2011 11:46 Conquerer67 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 05:16 mikiao wrote:
On November 06 2011 18:38 Whitewing wrote:
I just realized, you can't use nukes, you can't have ghosts available for that mission, or spectres. You get them in the mission after that one -_-.



Damn...go back and redo it? Man...the first great idea I've had in millennia and it turns out to be a dud.


You can't use units that you haven't had unlocked when you actually played the mission. IE, using spectres in Devil's Playground, or using BCs in The Evacuation.

As for what a real challenge is, complete every single mission with only building workers, no combat buildings or units. You have to suicide your starting units too, no mercs, and the only armory upgrades you can get are orbital command and the two SCV ones. Try that one out.


Hrm... would have to use a lot of planetary fortresses.
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