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Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
December 09 2010 02:30 GMT
#121
so, righto. This looks like a fairly finished product. They have it timestamped, beyond storyboarded, they have the voice acting done. What remains to be seen is whether this is *actually* a mockup of the ending, or just an ingame cutscene

It uses the IGCS engine, not a whitebox of fully 3d production that would indicate production footage leaking, so if it is genuninely the 'end cinematic' in the same way as the WOL one, it's a mockup- none of it is going to look like that in the end one, though the content and dialogue will be thematically identical. This is just a plasticine version to give the real cinematics team something to chew on.

The other possibility is it is simply *one* of the semi-ending cutscenes. Vis, arcturus was controlling the zerg somehow, and this is kind of like the media blitz ending cinematic. The end of a story arc, but not the end of the expansion itself. personally I hope this is the case.


All that said, it's fucking awful and blizzard should be ashamed. Even more corny than WoL and I didn't think that was possible. Cinematically it's structured extremely well, but it's uninspired. It hits all the technical buttons but has no flair or life. Every move is predictable, nothing shocks, nothing inspires. God damn blizzard, you have so many amazing artists and this is what you give them to work on? they must be secretly crying themselves to sleep at night that they're propping up every game on good looks alone. If you don't watch it, they might just start leaving...
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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
December 09 2010 02:32 GMT
#122
didn't they say the ending is not set?

maybe they realized this ending is kind of lame so they decided to change it.
Dess.JadeFalcon
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 09 2010 02:34 GMT
#123
On December 09 2010 11:23 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 11:12 Krigwin wrote:
As a side note, I am now more pessimistic about D3 than I have ever been.

For some reason this hadn't dawned on me until reading this post. FUCK.

I'm sorry man. Just pattern recognition.

If it cheers you up, here's my prediction for the D3 plot: it turns out Diablo and the Prime Evils were originally just stewards of the land from before the time of humans, then they were enslaved by an ancient alien force intent on destroying Sanctuary. Agents of this unspeakable evil that have crossed the universe, consuming all in their path, were the ones who originally orchestrated the release of Diablo from the Burning Hells and caused the events at Tristram, they mind-controlled Diablo into the events of Diablo 2 all as part of their plan to KILL EVERYONE.

The Prime Evils, the other lesser Evils, and all the demons are all creatures that have been corrupted (perhaps by a curse... of the blood?) and are driven into a frenzy to KILL EVERYONE. Now, as random adventurers, YOU must put them out of their misery, defeat the agents of this greater evil and free the poor demons from their enslavement! The last campaign or act or whatever involves angels, humans, and demons banding together to protect some important artifact, structure, or location from an imminent invasion of the evil aliens.

+ Show Spoiler +
Full-CGI Diablo movie coming out in 2013
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
December 09 2010 02:36 GMT
#124
@ Kalingingsong:

you don't pay someone to do a mockup of that quality if you're not committed. That's about 2-5000 dollars right there, if not significantly more. It's possible that it might change, but only if some big shakeup happened and that would probably mean a game delay. Mutability tends to occur only at the pre-production stage- eg when they're doing pen and paper storyboarding and outlines. Once you get to paying voice actors for lines and commissioning 3d mockups, you're pretty much set apart from tweaking.
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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
December 09 2010 02:36 GMT
#125
more patterns:

and it also turns out that Cain is actually Diablo's father.
Dess.JadeFalcon
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
December 09 2010 02:36 GMT
#126
On December 09 2010 11:34 Krigwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 11:23 Jibba wrote:
On December 09 2010 11:12 Krigwin wrote:
As a side note, I am now more pessimistic about D3 than I have ever been.

For some reason this hadn't dawned on me until reading this post. FUCK.

I'm sorry man. Just pattern recognition.

If it cheers you up, here's my prediction for the D3 plot: it turns out Diablo and the Prime Evils were originally just stewards of the land from before the time of humans, then they were enslaved by an ancient alien force intent on destroying Sanctuary. Agents of this unspeakable evil that have crossed the universe, consuming all in their path, were the ones who originally orchestrated the release of Diablo from the Burning Hells and caused the events at Tristram, they mind-controlled Diablo into the events of Diablo 2 all as part of their plan to KILL EVERYONE.

The Prime Evils, the other lesser Evils, and all the demons are all creatures that have been corrupted (perhaps by a curse... of the blood?) and are driven into a frenzy to KILL EVERYONE. Now, as random adventurers, YOU must put them out of their misery, defeat the agents of this greater evil and free the poor demons from their enslavement! The last campaign or act or whatever involves angels, humans, and demons banding together to protect some important artifact, structure, or location from an imminent invasion of the evil aliens.

+ Show Spoiler +
Full-CGI Diablo movie coming out in 2013


I think I can heartily confirm this won't be the D3 plot. I didn't read anything that looked remotely like a love interest.
Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
December 09 2010 02:38 GMT
#127
@ Kalingingsong:

you don't pay someone to do a mockup of that quality if you're not committed. That's about 2-5000 dollars right there, if not significantly more. It's possible that it might change, but only if some big shakeup happened and that would probably mean a game delay. Mutability tends to occur only at the pre-production stage- eg when they're doing pen and paper storyboarding and outlines. Once you get to paying voice actors for lines and commissioning 3d mockups, you're pretty much set apart from tweaking.


damn it...
Dess.JadeFalcon
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 09 2010 02:38 GMT
#128
Wow this is really bad... we should make a thread of all our 5 second ideas of how the story could be better. I am literally making this up as I type it so if it is even on par with their story... that's pretty damn bad...

I think it would be cool if after Kerrigan is saved that she would help Raynor kill Mengsk, but she would die at Mengsk's hand as he would finally finish the job therefore putting everyone in jeopardy as Dark Voice would not have any powerful enemies to have to take down...

At this point the story could take so many turns but either of these would be good (well... at least BETTER) for me...
-We would find out not all of the Xel'Naga have died and they would hold the secrets to stopping Dark Voice.
-Someone (Possibly Jim Raynor though I don't know how well he would fit with no psionic capabilities) could have to make the sacrifice of becoming infested to control the zerg and all of their power in order to fight off Dark Voice since the Zerg need a leader to be organized.

Tell me what you think, whether my ideas also suck bad... are better than the leaked video but still bad... passable or good. Keep in mind I just came up with these now so if these are at least decent, a professional story writer who spends all his time thinking about the story and reading into the lore would do a much better job.

Bigpet
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany533 Posts
December 09 2010 02:41 GMT
#129
I really don't like this version of the ending, there's still time for it to be changed but I think Blizzard had the overall Story set in stone, the day WoL released.

Also Kotaku got their grubby hands on this:
http://kotaku.com/5709838/ending-leaked-for-starcraft-iis-next-chapter
I'm NOT the caster with a similar nick
proot
Profile Joined June 2004
United States126 Posts
December 09 2010 02:41 GMT
#130
Ugh, everything went so down hill from the original sc storyline where theres deception, betrayal and the characters aren't brain dead. Remember how Mengsk and Kerrigan just play everyone like puppets to meet their agendas, then break every tie and turn on the people that trusted them? That creates hate and love for the characters involved and makes for a good, memorable story. Hell, I almost feel bad for Mengsk at this point because hes so freaking stupid. How can you hate a guy that's getting tooled in every way possible?

This storyline is so linear and dumbed down that it's so easy to predict what will happen in the next two expansions:
HotS: Kerrigan becomes reinfested somehow and they take out Mengsk. The zerg are suddenly good guys and disappear into a vortex to find their place in the universe.

Final expansion: Toss and terran fight against the dark voice and the hybrids, then when all hope looks lost, the zerg appear out of no where and fight alongside the other races to defeat the dark voice.

Hello Wc3 storyline, nice to see you back! When you can't think of anything creative, just reuse the same story over and over - the dumbed down masses won't notice.... I have buddies who think WoL storyline was the best thing ever
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holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
December 09 2010 02:41 GMT
#131
blizzard has professional story writers chic -- and this is what they do.
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
December 09 2010 02:43 GMT
#132
It's the Star Wars prequels all over again...
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 09 2010 02:44 GMT
#133
On December 09 2010 11:38 Chicane wrote:
Wow this is really bad... we should make a thread of all our 5 second ideas of how the story could be better. I am literally making this up as I type it so if it is even on par with their story... that's pretty damn bad...

I think it would be cool if after Kerrigan is saved that she would help Raynor kill Mengsk, but she would die at Mengsk's hand as he would finally finish the job therefore putting everyone in jeopardy as Dark Voice would not have any powerful enemies to have to take down...

At this point the story could take so many turns but either of these would be good (well... at least BETTER) for me...
-We would find out not all of the Xel'Naga have died and they would hold the secrets to stopping Dark Voice.
-Someone (Possibly Jim Raynor though I don't know how well he would fit with no psionic capabilities) could have to make the sacrifice of becoming infested to control the zerg and all of their power in order to fight off Dark Voice since the Zerg need a leader to be organized.

Tell me what you think, whether my ideas also suck bad... are better than the leaked video but still bad... passable or good. Keep in mind I just came up with these now so if these are at least decent, a professional story writer who spends all his time thinking about the story and reading into the lore would do a much better job.


We could have one of those threads where everyone gets to write 3 words, and it'd probably end up with a better/more coherent story line.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 09 2010 02:44 GMT
#134
On December 09 2010 11:36 branflakes14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 11:34 Krigwin wrote:
On December 09 2010 11:23 Jibba wrote:
On December 09 2010 11:12 Krigwin wrote:
As a side note, I am now more pessimistic about D3 than I have ever been.

For some reason this hadn't dawned on me until reading this post. FUCK.

I'm sorry man. Just pattern recognition.

If it cheers you up, here's my prediction for the D3 plot: it turns out Diablo and the Prime Evils were originally just stewards of the land from before the time of humans, then they were enslaved by an ancient alien force intent on destroying Sanctuary. Agents of this unspeakable evil that have crossed the universe, consuming all in their path, were the ones who originally orchestrated the release of Diablo from the Burning Hells and caused the events at Tristram, they mind-controlled Diablo into the events of Diablo 2 all as part of their plan to KILL EVERYONE.

The Prime Evils, the other lesser Evils, and all the demons are all creatures that have been corrupted (perhaps by a curse... of the blood?) and are driven into a frenzy to KILL EVERYONE. Now, as random adventurers, YOU must put them out of their misery, defeat the agents of this greater evil and free the poor demons from their enslavement! The last campaign or act or whatever involves angels, humans, and demons banding together to protect some important artifact, structure, or location from an imminent invasion of the evil aliens.

+ Show Spoiler +
Full-CGI Diablo movie coming out in 2013


I think I can heartily confirm this won't be the D3 plot. I didn't read anything that looked remotely like a love interest.

Dawg, that's just the overarching story for D3.

See, they might do this "split the game into parts and sell it three times" thing again. In which case, even MORE epic plot action.

For example, in the first game, Barbarian, as the only playable one of the original heroes from D2, is the canon hero. He discovers that Druid has fallen and is now a sort of vigilante, hunting down demons to try to rescue his love, Amazon, who has been turned by the demons ancient alien evil, similar to the Corrupted Rogues from Act 1. Amazon was abandoned to the demons ancient alien evil by Mengsk Paladin, who went over to the dark side.

Barbarian joins up with Druid and kicks this revolution into overdrive works together to find Amazon, and along the way, they discover pieces of this Xel'Naga Horadric artifact that has the power to uncorrupt people from the demons ancient alien evil. They reassemble the device and save Amazon, setting up the stage for Game 2!
Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 02:45:19
December 09 2010 02:44 GMT
#135
hmm thinking about it, maybe its not the general idea that's bad, but rather its more the execution. The original bw storyline could've been pretty cheesy as well depending on how it's done. But the little details made the characters believable.
Dess.JadeFalcon
PSGMud
Profile Joined March 2010
United States53 Posts
December 09 2010 02:44 GMT
#136
This is by far the lowest Blizzard has ever been. Even rock n roll racing had a better storyline.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 09 2010 02:48 GMT
#137
On December 09 2010 11:44 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 11:38 Chicane wrote:
Wow this is really bad... we should make a thread of all our 5 second ideas of how the story could be better. I am literally making this up as I type it so if it is even on par with their story... that's pretty damn bad...

I think it would be cool if after Kerrigan is saved that she would help Raynor kill Mengsk, but she would die at Mengsk's hand as he would finally finish the job therefore putting everyone in jeopardy as Dark Voice would not have any powerful enemies to have to take down...

At this point the story could take so many turns but either of these would be good (well... at least BETTER) for me...
-We would find out not all of the Xel'Naga have died and they would hold the secrets to stopping Dark Voice.
-Someone (Possibly Jim Raynor though I don't know how well he would fit with no psionic capabilities) could have to make the sacrifice of becoming infested to control the zerg and all of their power in order to fight off Dark Voice since the Zerg need a leader to be organized.

Tell me what you think, whether my ideas also suck bad... are better than the leaked video but still bad... passable or good. Keep in mind I just came up with these now so if these are at least decent, a professional story writer who spends all his time thinking about the story and reading into the lore would do a much better job.


We could have one of those threads where everyone gets to write 3 words, and it'd probably end up with a better/more coherent story line.


Hahaha let's do it!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 09 2010 02:49 GMT
#138
On December 09 2010 11:44 Krigwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 11:36 branflakes14 wrote:
On December 09 2010 11:34 Krigwin wrote:
On December 09 2010 11:23 Jibba wrote:
On December 09 2010 11:12 Krigwin wrote:
As a side note, I am now more pessimistic about D3 than I have ever been.

For some reason this hadn't dawned on me until reading this post. FUCK.

I'm sorry man. Just pattern recognition.

If it cheers you up, here's my prediction for the D3 plot: it turns out Diablo and the Prime Evils were originally just stewards of the land from before the time of humans, then they were enslaved by an ancient alien force intent on destroying Sanctuary. Agents of this unspeakable evil that have crossed the universe, consuming all in their path, were the ones who originally orchestrated the release of Diablo from the Burning Hells and caused the events at Tristram, they mind-controlled Diablo into the events of Diablo 2 all as part of their plan to KILL EVERYONE.

The Prime Evils, the other lesser Evils, and all the demons are all creatures that have been corrupted (perhaps by a curse... of the blood?) and are driven into a frenzy to KILL EVERYONE. Now, as random adventurers, YOU must put them out of their misery, defeat the agents of this greater evil and free the poor demons from their enslavement! The last campaign or act or whatever involves angels, humans, and demons banding together to protect some important artifact, structure, or location from an imminent invasion of the evil aliens.

+ Show Spoiler +
Full-CGI Diablo movie coming out in 2013


I think I can heartily confirm this won't be the D3 plot. I didn't read anything that looked remotely like a love interest.

Dawg, that's just the overarching story for D3.

See, they might do this "split the game into parts and sell it three times" thing again. In which case, even MORE epic plot action.

For example, in the first game, Barbarian, as the only playable one of the original heroes from D2, is the canon hero. He discovers that Druid has fallen and is now a sort of vigilante, hunting down demons to try to rescue his love, Amazon, who has been turned by the demons ancient alien evil, similar to the Corrupted Rogues from Act 1. Amazon was abandoned to the demons ancient alien evil by Mengsk Paladin, who went over to the dark side.

Barbarian joins up with Druid and kicks this revolution into overdrive works together to find Amazon, and along the way, they discover pieces of this Xel'Naga Horadric artifact that has the power to uncorrupt people from the demons ancient alien evil. They reassemble the device and save Amazon, setting up the stage for Game 2!

Brilliant. I think I'll be sending your ideas to James CameronBlizzard right away.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Guustaaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands22 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 02:51:34
December 09 2010 02:50 GMT
#139
Who first came up with the idea that this is a the HoS cinematic? This is (was) a clip posted on the channel of a guy doing graphical design for Blizzard, over 3 months ago (Google cache). The BW voices are used, and there are some major inconsistencies, the biggest one being that Kerrigan is still fully infected of course. Isn't it more likely that this is a WoL clip (probably the ending) that was scrapped?
Probes and pylons
Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
December 09 2010 02:52 GMT
#140
On December 09 2010 11:50 Guustaaf wrote:
Who first came up with the idea that this is a the HoS cinematic? This is (was) a clip posted on the channel of a guy doing graphical design for Blizzard, over 3 months ago (Google cache). The BW voices are used, and there are some major inconsistencies, the biggest one being that Kerrigan is still fully infected of course. Isn't it more likely that this is a WoL clip (probably the ending) that was scrapped?


please please please let this be true.
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