The new Vengeance trailer really did sort of confirm the leaked ending is true. There's the Viking scene that Existor posted. But also in the leaked ending the beginning building (Mengk's tower I suppose) is the exact same as the trailer's. The final scene where Mutalisks go into the sky while a whirlwind is coming down is also in the new trailer. And a bonus is the fact that in the leaked ending they say "Vengeance" like 10 times and the new trailer is aptly named "Vengeance".
Kinda sad they decided to keep it like that. Its obviously still speculation, but I suppose once they had that much done they wouldn't scrape all the money spent on it already.
On February 28 2013 22:26 KOtical wrote: thanks for the infos and the video.... looks pretty cool that thing... i didnt knew hots i going to have "boss battles". im excited for it!
It's already listed about bosses on the HOTS preview page
On February 28 2013 22:21 Andr3 wrote: What's the main reason people are troubled about the leaked ending? Because it's cheesey? Everything so far has been cheesey in blizzard games.
On February 28 2013 22:21 Andr3 wrote: What's the main reason people are troubled about the leaked ending? Because it's cheesey? Everything so far has been cheesey in blizzard games.
Because Mengsk dies? I think it's his time already, he's been alive for far too long given how much blizzard loves to kill their characters.
The speech Kerrigan gives? I don't understand. The ending seems normal to me, nothing special nothing bad.
The writing is absolutely horrific. Not only that, it's a complete rip-off and re-hashing of previous Blizzard storylines.
Both SC/WC have their roots in Warhammer's universe. In a sense they're both rip-off's from that. WC3's story is quite similar to SC as well(especially arthas(lk)/QoB).
The orc invasion is just a stylized LotR. Sargeras being the all great evil that he is corrupts Medvih etc. And as far as SC is concerned you need only to play the original campaign and watch the cinematics(space-cowboys clearly).
Diablo might be more original, but there's far too many heaven vs hell stories out there already.
Writing has never been Blizzard's strong suit, but a lot of their characters are quite memorable(Grom,Thrall,Tassadar...). Cinematics having a big role in this which is something that Blizzard always does good.
Enjoy HotS for the missions, the campaign in general but don't expect too much from the story because it's not what Blizzard does correct.
Read books for good stories, there's but a few games that have had a touch of brilliance when it comes to story.
On February 28 2013 22:21 Andr3 wrote: What's the main reason people are troubled about the leaked ending? Because it's cheesey? Everything so far has been cheesey in blizzard games.
Because Mengsk dies? I think it's his time already, he's been alive for far too long given how much blizzard loves to kill their characters.
The speech Kerrigan gives? I don't understand. The ending seems normal to me, nothing special nothing bad.
The Zerg aren't bad guys... they're just misunderstood...
On February 28 2013 23:30 Andr3 wrote: When hasn't it been horrific?
Both SC/WC have their roots in Warhammer's universe. In a sense they're both rip-off's from that. WC3's story is quite similar to SC as well(especially arthas(lk)/QoB).
The orc invasion is just a stylized LotR. Sargeras being the all great evil that he is corrupts Medvih etc. And as far as SC is concerned you need only to play the original campaign and watch the cinematics(space-cowboys clearly).
Diablo might be more original, but there's far too many heaven vs hell stories out there already.
Writing has never been Blizzard's strong suit, but a lot of their characters are quite memorable(Grom,Thrall,Tassadar...). Cinematics having a big role in this which is something that Blizzard always does good.
Enjoy HotS for the missions, the campaign in general but don't expect too much from the story because it's not what Blizzard does correct.
Read books for good stories, there's but a few games that have had a touch of brilliance when it comes to story.
Complaining the writing is poor is like complaining that the narrative of a pickup WarHammer game is bad -_- you play for the game. If you want a story you go read the books sold on the side. In general the lore is good, in specifics its so so cheesy
^I don't understand your reply. That's what I wanted to convey as well, sorry if I failed.
And I do agree that the lore is generally good, it's quite expansive..especially the WC one.
@paralleluniverse, that's what blizzard decided to do, screw it. Look at RoC ending, orcs/humans joining together after so much history of hate. If blizzard is going down that path again with SC so be it, if anything we'll remember the characters and not the story and the dialogues.
On February 28 2013 22:21 Andr3 wrote: What's the main reason people are troubled about the leaked ending? Because it's cheesey? Everything so far has been cheesey in blizzard games.
Because Mengsk dies? I think it's his time already, he's been alive for far too long given how much blizzard loves to kill their characters.
The speech Kerrigan gives? I don't understand. The ending seems normal to me, nothing special nothing bad.
It's because of the 'Veangence' thing and making Mengsk a powerful evil villain. If u played BW, you'd know that kerrigan had 2 major occasions to kill Mengsk: - once she destroyed Fenix and Duke on Korhal, she could kill him, but she let him live intentionally - after the final mission - she killed every single bit of UED, so chasing down Mengsk was certainly in her power
During the final mission, Mengsk also stated he brought every ship, asked every favor he could. Everything was destroyed, yet in just 4 years he rebuilds the Dominion into full power.
Moreover, Jim finally sworn to kill Kerrigan, and that was his main goal after BW, not revolution, because the Dominion was shattered anyway.
And that's what's pissing me off - they act like brood war never happened.
On March 01 2013 00:33 Andr3 wrote: ^I don't understand your reply. That's what I wanted to convey as well, sorry if I failed.
And I do agree that the lore is generally good, it's quite expansive..especially the WC one.
@paralleluniverse, that's what blizzard decided to do, screw it. Look at RoC ending, orcs/humans joining together after so much history of hate. If blizzard is going down that path again with SC so be it, if anything we'll remember the characters and not the story and the dialogues.
Naw, just wanted to add to your discussion but in a more direct example relating to warhammer ^^
On February 28 2013 22:21 Andr3 wrote: What's the main reason people are troubled about the leaked ending? Because it's cheesey? Everything so far has been cheesey in blizzard games.
Because Mengsk dies? I think it's his time already, he's been alive for far too long given how much blizzard loves to kill their characters.
The speech Kerrigan gives? I don't understand. The ending seems normal to me, nothing special nothing bad.
It's because of the 'Veangence' thing and making Mengsk a powerful evil villain. If u played BW, you'd know that kerrigan had 2 major occasions to kill Mengsk: - once she destroyed Fenix and Duke on Korhal, she could kill him, but she let him live intentionally - after the final mission - she killed every single bit of UED, so chasing down Mengsk was certainly in her power
During the final mission, Mengsk also stated he brought every ship, asked every favor he could. Everything was destroyed, yet in just 4 years he rebuilds the Dominion into full power.
Moreover, Jim finally sworn to kill Kerrigan, and that was his main goal after BW, not revolution, because the Dominion was shattered anyway.
And that's what's pissing me off - they act like brood war never happened.
Jut noticed this as well while comparing all the cinemas shots we got from the expansion and compared it to the leaked one. What truly got me was + Show Spoiler +
at the end when she kills mensk they do a close up on her eyes/face and the expression she has in the leaked version is identical to one of the cinematic, its so dammn obvious that that part of the cinematic was taken from this scene.