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On August 02 2010 15:43 spinesheath wrote:If you finished the campaign, you might have seen a Xel'Naga. Don't know for sure yet, but I think it is the case: + Show Spoiler +Kerrigan was not turned into a human. She became a Xel'Naga. + Show Spoiler +huh, that would be interesting. Unfortunately I don't think that the artifact blast would have actually altered her racial identity.
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On August 02 2010 14:58 heishe wrote: the thing with the dark one is going to be SO like deathwing in the warcraft universe. one of the xel naga betrayed the xel naga and turned their creations against them 100%. blizzard formula ftw.
Something like this. But I believe this Dark Voice I truly a god or a very powerful entity that is not a Xel'naga. I read that in real form it has tentacles?! and can possess minds and turn people crazy.
Obviously this is the powerful god Duran claims to be working for in BW: Dark Origin.
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Voice_in_the_Darkness_(entity)
So a sleeping (emprisonned) old god with tentacles and tremendous powers capable of controlling minds.
haha the lore guys at Blizzard really love Lovecraft.
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Once you start to use prophecies in your story you're running on empty.
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I played through the campaign in super-speed, so I might have missed something, but might this be possible?
+ Show Spoiler +What if the Taldarim in fact are "good guys". Sure, they seem to be fanatics, but they always mention that they worship the xel naga and try to preserve their artifacts. I don´t think it´s unlikely that they know about the power of the artifacts.
I also think Raynor might have misinterpreted Zeratuls vision and words. I remember him stating that her fate would lie in Raynor´s hands, but perhaps not only killing Kerrigan was the event that will lead to the rise of power of the "Fallen one".
What if saving Kerrigan also causes this, since the zerg lose their single leader? So Raynor might have done the wrong thing (in the bigger picture) despite having the best intentions.
This also might be a startof point for "heart of the swarm". Raynor & Kerrigan might discover that Kerrigan is needed as the queen of blades, and Kerrigan might become the leader of the zerg again, literaly to save the universe. This also would fit in with Kerrigan being the central Person in HoS with her regaining her former powers.
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The Hybrids are the Xel'Naga (The new ones anyway) Thats why the Xel'naga create races, they experiment and create one with purity of form and another of purity of essence and over a very long time they know that they will eventually be drawn together and the hybrids become the new "Xel'naga"
Source:http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel%27naga
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lol being a lore geek then you'd know zerg gained the knowledge of protoss from killing off the xelnaga? it is impossible for xel naga to be alive
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It may just be me, but I think that if I remember correctly some one imbued the overmind with the purpose of destroying the protoss. About the hybrids though they were made by genetic splicing, but thats not how it should happen. The xel'naga would use crystals to change the two species...into xel naga.
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The new Hybrids are forced though it seems . Not slowly drawn together like the original Xel'Naga wanted.
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The hybrids are definitely not the xel naga. This hybrids were what you will say as man made, not of the natural cycle. The starcraft wikia is wrong too, some guy who didn't know the facts decided to just anyhow put things in to lead people to the wrong path. The Xel 'Naga didnt escape because the protoss wants to kill them, but rather because they were done with them and were going to look for the other half that would eventually reform into the Xel'Naga. That was the zerg.
The Xel'Naga are a bunch a bird lookong like creatures that have tentacles, which zeratul stated himself that it was uttterly beautiful
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I can't believe so many people are citing wikipedia as a source... + Show Spoiler +It seemed to me that Dr. Narud and the Terran were responsible for hybrids. Duran had done some work on them in BW, it would only make sense that he continue and received Mengks's help. Play the secret level and you might agree with me. Also, we don't know how much of Zeratul's missions were in the future. Obviously the last one was, and possible where he ran into the dark one. So i'm pretty sure that the Terran are causing an imbalance. What if saving Kerrigan also causes this, since the zerg lose their single leader? So Raynor might have done the wrong thing (in the bigger picture) despite having the best intentions. Someone high up wanted Kerrigan dead... That was dude in the blue suit's(forgot his name) mission the whole time. Kerrigan was not turned into a human. She became a Xel'Naga. I think this is a valid point, but I'm not sure I agree. I do though wonder wtf was up with her hair.
Hmm, well I guess we will find out the facts in 18-16 months from now.
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I distinctly remember reading 'the zerg turned on their creators'....somewhere. Like in the SC1 manual. And the Xel'Naga escaped with a few of their ships.
And I thought they made the protoss too, so that article had me surprised. We certain it's correct? Looks kinda like there is a Fallen Xel'Naga (either Duran or his boss) who is making all these hybrids across various worlds. But will the Xel'Naga make their own hybrids as well? After all, they were looking for the unification of form and essence.
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I don't like the hybrids, they look like something from warcraft or diablo. Less demonic monsters and more sci-fi!
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On August 02 2010 16:01 UnderWorld_Dream wrote: haha the lore guys at Blizzard really love Lovecraft.
The entity -> Azathoth
Duran ( servant ) -> Nyarlathotep :p ( they are both black ! 100% proof )
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Well, when you think about it, if the Zerg had turned upon and eaten the Xel'Naga, wouldn't they have 'infested' them, and mutated along their lines.
THINK ABOUT IT! ZERG'NAGA!
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All I want to know,
+ Show Spoiler +whats with kerrigans tentacle hair after she is supposedly turned back to human? that shit is messed up
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On August 02 2010 23:44 Darpa wrote:All I want to know, + Show Spoiler +whats with kerrigans tentacle hair after she is supposedly turned back to human? that shit is messed up
+ Show Spoiler + What I thought is that she hadn't been turned back to human after the final mission yet, she had just been stripped of power like every single zerg being in that area of char (or on the planet itself) - but was still a zerg entity. Afterwards, raynor took her to the artifact and made her back into a human. The artifact blast wouldn't have been the thing to do it, considering that you'd used the artifact multiple times in the course of the mission for a totally different reason. I figure that raynor would have to actually take kerrigan TO the artifact and then touch it or they both touch it or something like that, then she would become human again. We'll see in the next set of campaigns though.
EDIT: Spoilered, since all the cool kids are doing it.
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My thoughts: + Show Spoiler +Narud is Duran, working to create hybrids the same way as in BW. He is much closer now, and has convinced mengsk to fund his studies. The Xel'Naga are not evil - they are returning to help. It was known that the Xel'Naga were fleeing some force more powerful than even they were - I surmise that is the dark one. It would also be what corrupted the zerg and caused the overmind to attack and destroy much of hte Xel'Naga fleet.
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Personally, I waited 12 years for updated graphics on multiplayer. The single player just happens to be surprisingly good gravy.
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changed your title name. please be more careful when you name your threads next time as to avoid spoilers, thanks.
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On August 02 2010 13:02 ArghUScaredMe wrote: Being the lore geek, I remember reading the SC1 lore in the CD sleeve as a kid. I imagined what the super advanced race Xel'naga were like, the race omnipotent enough to create Zerg and Protoss from scratch.
I knew Blizz would revisit SC universe for sure and anticipated what Xel'naga would be like. They're not conventionally advanced like Protoss. Xel'naga created them.. they must be spiritual or exist in some crazy energy form of sort.
SC2 arrived.. we don't see Xel'naga at all. All we see is Protoss/Zerg hybrids. The only glimpse is the generic Protoss portrait representing Xel'naga as the Dark One.
What a disappointment.
have you considert that the hybrids can be actually the Xel Naga?
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