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Science vessel or raven?

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Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
July 31 2010 21:16 GMT
#1
Poll: vessel or raven?

Vessel (522)
 
92%

Raven (46)
 
8%

568 total votes

Your vote: vessel or raven?

(Vote): Vessel
(Vote): Raven


Which one did u choose? Each unit has their original abilities but if i recall vessel heals mech regen. Unless there are other things im missing, why did you choose your choice?
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 21:51:24
July 31 2010 21:50 GMT
#2
Vessel has the lol heal on your air force and tanks. Its so OP its redic. I love flying around with my banshee / viking army with vessels like on the one mission where you're always moving to the right (no spoilers).
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
July 31 2010 21:52 GMT
#3
Sci vessels = invincible mech. Raven has shit abilities anyways.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 21:57:02
July 31 2010 21:56 GMT
#4
haaha 19-0 for vesslars ^_^ no surprise there.
sikyon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1045 Posts
July 31 2010 21:58 GMT
#5
You know what, I picked vessel because I heard how good it was and I lost everytime I got them.

No joke. I wish I had ravens for PDD
a11
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany303 Posts
July 31 2010 21:59 GMT
#6
Figured the repair had to be quite cool, given that I dislike MMM and and towards the end of Terran campaigns it's always about Cattlebruisers.
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 22:01:48
July 31 2010 22:01 GMT
#7
whooooops i hit raven by accident. for people reading it, subtract 1 from raven and add 1 to vessekl
Barfboy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada193 Posts
July 31 2010 22:02 GMT
#8
sv>raven, i mean it is the only time you'll ever be able to use it in sc2 plus it makes mech imba, and irradiate aint half bad either..
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 31 2010 22:03 GMT
#9
I picked vessel, simply because I would much rather play with a NEW unit, than a unit I have been playing with for months already. Turned out that it was overpowered as hell in the campaign, as well.
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Radio.active
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States121 Posts
July 31 2010 22:44 GMT
#10
Vessel is the obvious choice in campaign, because i can do the eraser trick and never loose my vessels thanks to the healing.
-_-
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
July 31 2010 22:47 GMT
#11
Healing your mech at a super fast rate? Yes please!
. . . nevermore
GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
July 31 2010 22:49 GMT
#12
I wish Terran has SV instead of Raven!

Seriously. Raven sucks, I wish SV comes back and zerg gets defiler back!
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Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
July 31 2010 22:52 GMT
#13
Raven just ain't as ballsy. I can only think of reasons why vessel seems like the better choice. Even if you loved raven for some weird reason, vessel should be picked for nostalgistic reasons and because you can only play it in campaign. Also the abilities seem pretty good, 25 energy irridiate and mech heal are both pretty sick.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
July 31 2010 22:57 GMT
#14
science vessal because i dont have the apm to constantly use raven abilities, and mech heal is automatic. BC's and SV's are silly together, immortal. also your bcs can get defensive matrix.

crazy fun!
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zoltanqc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada171 Posts
July 31 2010 22:58 GMT
#15
easiest choice ever mayne comon!
AND THEN, THE INTERNETS EXPLODED.
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
July 31 2010 23:44 GMT
#16
Vessels because their portrait looks badass.
Vorrenus
Profile Joined March 2010
Afghanistan94 Posts
August 01 2010 00:42 GMT
#17
natural mech repain + sv + merc tank with all upgrades from merc guy and armory > ground.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 00:48:48
August 01 2010 00:48 GMT
#18
my first thought was "would i rather have medics for my battlecruisers, or...?" and that's as far as i got. science vessel 100%!
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 01 2010 00:48 GMT
#19
Science vessels seemed too good to pass up. I kind of regret getting biosteel, since science vessels with +100 energy would have been awesome, and biosteel is kind of slow.

Did anyone ever actually use irradiate? Haha.
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
August 01 2010 00:50 GMT
#20
Flying EMP, Defensive Matrix which owns on tanks/thors(probably) and Irriadiate which is super good and would be ridiculous in sc2 since there are no scourge.
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 00:52:31
August 01 2010 00:52 GMT
#21
Vessels because they are just as imba as in BW.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20664 Posts
August 01 2010 00:52 GMT
#22
I used irradiate on Kerrigan : D since it does DOT her armor isn't as effective

and it costs 2 5 !!!
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Vorrenus
Profile Joined March 2010
Afghanistan94 Posts
August 01 2010 01:12 GMT
#23
never looked at Kerrigan's armor, how much of it does she have anyway?
socal50
Profile Joined July 2010
United States93 Posts
August 01 2010 01:20 GMT
#24
i did two playthroughs

one i got science vessel, and the repair mech thing is sooooo handy
the other i was kinda fooling around a bit, got the +100 energy research and raven. spammed auto turrets, it was fun
gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
August 01 2010 01:25 GMT
#25
Chekov will tell you which ones to get:

+ Show Spoiler +
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
August 01 2010 01:31 GMT
#26
Vessels by far. The mech heal is SOOOO good. If the only things it could do was detect and heal mech the vessel would still be better. Irradiate is just the icing on the cake. I love the vessel for multiplayer - but it doesn't translate well to single player imo. The way its abilities work I just don't feel like if translates to many small to medium sized engagements over long periods of time like you run into in single player, at least imo.
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Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
August 01 2010 01:36 GMT
#27
On August 01 2010 09:48 zer0das wrote:
Science vessels seemed too good to pass up. I kind of regret getting biosteel, since science vessels with +100 energy would have been awesome, and biosteel is kind of slow.

Did anyone ever actually use irradiate? Haha.



Lol I tried to use irradiate but stuff just melted to quickly to my tank/goliath armys. Still though I used irradiate allot, it just was never really needed. Also voted SV (obviously) medivacs for your mech/air? Yes please.
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
August 01 2010 01:39 GMT
#28
SV's healing was awesome but it felt like it moved way slower than before
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Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
August 01 2010 01:50 GMT
#29
people obviously choose vessels because we haven't played them!
Tonyoh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France218 Posts
August 01 2010 01:59 GMT
#30
On August 01 2010 09:48 intrigue wrote:
my first thought was "would i rather have medics for my battlecruisers, or...?" and that's as far as i got. science vessel 100%!

lol exactly same idea ^^
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yrba1
Profile Joined June 2010
United States325 Posts
August 01 2010 04:19 GMT
#31
Vessels are like a Terran mech player's wet dream come true. I wonder what will be the next steamroll strategy for the zerg campaign? Queens that full heal with transfusions costing 10 energy and autocast while massing ultras/corrupters?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 01 2010 04:40 GMT
#32
I got Ravens because i have the specialist boost otherwise i'd definitely have vessels. i find my myself using spectre raven and just tearing it up with stun + HSM
Spiffbane
Profile Joined October 2004
United States16 Posts
August 01 2010 06:59 GMT
#33
I got vessels solely because they aren't available in multiplayer. Didn't end up using them at all but apparently their mech healing is pretty strong..
ahaha try me
Acriphony
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada6 Posts
August 05 2010 19:22 GMT
#34
On August 01 2010 09:50 Kare wrote:
Flying EMP, Defensive Matrix which owns on tanks/thors(probably) and Irriadiate which is super good and would be ridiculous in sc2 since there are no scourge.

Irradiate is the only Science Vessel ability from SC: BW which is available in the campaign. The SC: 2 science vessel has Irradiate and a mech autoheal.
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JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 05 2010 19:23 GMT
#35
Its like the MM of mechs with a science vessel. So useful.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 05 2010 19:27 GMT
#36
Most lopsided poll ever?
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 19:33:18
August 05 2010 19:29 GMT
#37
never looked at Kerrigan's armor, how much of it does she have anyway?



I remember checking after my tanks were doing nothing to her, I didn't see anything out of the ordinary, her hardened shields must be a hidden passive ability.

Got the SV because It was fun to have something new (and ravens abilities are primarily support and harassment, not too necessary in campaign)
Edit: quoted wrong person, whoops
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 19:36:40
August 05 2010 19:35 GMT
#38
There's no real point in Raven. HSM is nice but nothing that an additional tank or AoE viking can't do. Auto-turret is nice, but will it really do anymore 'tanking' than a mech unit with repair? PDD is a great ability, but the computer doesn't ever stack units of one type. Vikings already decimate all the air you'll ever encounter, hydras only appear in low numbers, and all protoss ground armies feature a large # of zealots, HTs, Archons, and Immortals all of which are unaffected by PDD. The threats from terran usually center around siege tanks or marine balls as well.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
August 05 2010 19:39 GMT
#39
I didn't even use their abilities. I just used them like mechanical medics.
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Chained
Profile Joined February 2010
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 19:45:11
August 05 2010 19:43 GMT
#40
Get Ravens, because I dont want to be alone in picking them....

(wasnt really thinking properly lol)
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 05 2010 19:46 GMT
#41
Raven's PDD covers spores on air missions and soaks up Kerrigan's hits in the last mission. 2 Ravens + 5 medivacs full of infantry = instant base snipe. It's the only way I could do Mobieus Factor in time.
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
August 05 2010 19:49 GMT
#42
Science Vessel because it's a Science Vessel! ;]
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
NeonGenesis
Profile Joined September 2005
Norway260 Posts
August 05 2010 19:56 GMT
#43
The Vessel heal is always usefull, while Ravens are more situational. Sure PDD is extremely good but when facing so many units they run out of energy really fast. The Raven abilities are much better suited for multiplayer where players are evently matched, but I feel the Vessel is better for "hero hold mode" - Day[9]
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