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Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
July 30 2010 02:42 GMT
#41
IF YOU BLOCKED AIR:

So I spent the better part of my night trying this, then read the thor tip and one shotted it without even needing to use my artifact once! (got the achievement too)

Basically, in the beginning tech lab your starport, and tech lab 4 factories. Get at least 5 tanks on each side, then get 3 thors, then continue to spam tanks. Also, get the banshee mercs whenever up. With your collection of about 8 banshees, constantly use them for hunting nydus worms and nothing else. Keep on building tanks, you should hit 200/200 soon. Whenever Kerrigan comes, but your thors in front of your tanks and chain 250MM. She wont be able to get a single shot off because she'll be stunned the whole time. This was literally the difference between spamming the artifact, tons of tanks and still getting crushed on her waves, and not even having to pull back once to the artifact higher ground. I even had that bunker that you get in the beginning on the left side survive the whole mission!
Javadocs
Profile Joined July 2010
United States60 Posts
July 30 2010 03:48 GMT
#42
I kept going mech until I realized that I upgraded ghosts to not use energy while cloaked. That meant that I could keep them alive and cloaked and just spam snipe as fast as possible. It worked like a charm. I did this on hard but it worked so well that I think it could transfer over to brutal as well. I literally had like 20 ghosts chain sniping on the high ground. Oh, and I took out the zerg air beforehand.

You can also snipe the Ultras since you'll have a ton of energy left over. I blocked off with bunkers with mass marines also and Kerrigan was only able to take out one bunker most of the time before I sniped her to hell.

One thing is that the first time you shoot her with a ghost, she'll do that dark swarm AOE damage spell on the area where said ghost was. So instead of having them all die to that, I pulled them back, kept one up there, shot her once and made her cast that spell, and avoided it for the time being.

I kept ghosts everywhere, because they are awesome versus lings and hydras, and they cant die unless there is an overseer nearby.
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
July 30 2010 04:41 GMT
#43
WOW....Just beat it with Air. Reaaaaaallly hard. Just wow...

MAKE SURE YOU UPGRADE WEAPONS TO LEVEL 3! It helps sooo much. Armor doesn't matter as much.

Bunkers/Marines/Barracks are your friends. They will keep the sides blocked until around 90%. Make sure each side is properly blocked and that you always have a constant supply of SCV's repairing. I had about 3 Barracks and 5-6 Bunkers on both sides. 3-4 Tanks on both sides help too. Kerrigan only takes out about 1 Barrack and 2-3 Bunkers each attack. DONT USE YOUR BC's TO ATTACK Kerrigan. She will simply one shot and and they are too valuable for that. Marines + a few tanks take her fine with weapon upgrades.

Against air, I found that getting both BC's and Vikings are helpful. Have the BC's target Mutas and the Vikings against Broodlords. Against the rear attacks, a few turrets + 1 BC picking off Broodlords seemed to do it for me. On the cliff, keep constant turrets + SCV supply. Repairing your air units are so important.

Air will kill your sides if you are not active with your vikings. I had 1 BC on each side for safety's sake and it seemed to work ok, but Broodlords need to be taken out asap. That bigass air unit didn't attack me so I left it be.

Like some people said earlier, saving your Blast for Kerrigan is a good idea. it lets all your units target her without any distractions. When your are around 95% and you are losing stuff, USE IT. Don't save it for Kerrigan. By the time she gets to you, Curruptors would've corrupted the Artifact and you won't be able to use it.

I had trouble the last 2-3 percent because I always got completely overrun. There was no way I could defend it. Every time I would lose with ~.5%. So before I started losing everything, I lifted everything and landed them on the cliff and it gave me enough time to reach 100%.

I hope that helped. This level made me rage so hard.
cyto
Profile Joined April 2010
United States8 Posts
July 30 2010 05:16 GMT
#44
Ha the last 2-3% hurt me so hard too. At 90% i ran all my tanks/hellions/scvs into middle after a pulse. Then i walled myself in with and targeted the nyduses. I finished 100% with the weapon, 200 hp cc, and 3 burning factories. I lost all my guys at 99.4% ;]. I was like O DAMN i can't believe that just worked :O!
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
July 30 2010 06:32 GMT
#45
On July 30 2010 13:41 Repok wrote:
Air will kill your sides if you are not active with your vikings. I had 1 BC on each side for safety's sake and it seemed to work ok, but Broodlords need to be taken out asap. That bigass air unit didn't attack me so I left it be.

This. If you don't kill the leviathan boss and let him spawn as much as he wants, then you won't deal with kerrigan anymore. At least that's how it went for me.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
AT_Tack
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 14:08:16
July 30 2010 14:06 GMT
#46
I finally got my Sarah Kerrigan pic today after about 5 frustrating hours with this mission!
I wanted to share with you guys what worked for me!

1. Block out Air.
2. make 2nd bunker at left and right spots (and make more if u have marines waiting), make 2nd rax with reactor+ 2nd fax with tech lab. make that slow turret.
3. make only marines and tanks. position the tanks near the bunkers and the plateau with the artifact.
(important: spread the tanks so they can cover your whole base so they can gib nydusses that spawn in your base instantly)
4. Make Banshees constantly (get the merc banshees asap)
(you need 8-10 Banshees hotkeyed to kill the Nydusses without having to worry too much about hydras)
5.Upgrade vehicle armor/attack and marine attk.
6. Save often (save only when you think you did very well the last few sec/mins).

key to winning is spreading the tanks to both sides and constantly repairing bunkers with 4-5 scvs
while instantly killing the nydus worms with your banshee grp.

i always tried saving the artifact for when kerrigan attacked me so i only had to deal with her, just let her attack a bunker and repair it and let the tanks to the work. if there are no nydus worms send your banshees to assist you with kerrigan.
After getting to 97% a couple of times i managed to get to 100% with almost all my defenses intact.

hope this helps!
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
July 30 2010 14:24 GMT
#47
Banshees arent needed if you position tanks well, they will oneshot nyduses as they pop up inside your base, the ones on the outside can just be left alone, tanks demolish them

the more tanks you can afford the better
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
July 30 2010 15:40 GMT
#48
PFs and Tanks. Get a couple BCs to go around sniping Nydus. Should be pretty simple; I didn't even need to activate the artifact nova.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
July 30 2010 20:46 GMT
#49
woah, thor cannons stun kerrigan? That pretty much makes it easy mode, she was the one ruining everything with her lolstorms
hmmmm
sti
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom43 Posts
July 30 2010 21:01 GMT
#50
On July 31 2010 05:46 eNbee wrote:
woah, thor cannons stun kerrigan? That pretty much makes it easy mode, she was the one ruining everything with her lolstorms


Ditto

I couldn't stun her with specters so I assumed nothing could. I guess you need an upgrade for the cannons?
stupidperson
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2 Posts
July 31 2010 09:14 GMT
#51
just do a pf/tank defense all you need is 8-10 tanks on each side with the psi emmiter and 10 scv's repairing

that should take care of everything except kerrigan. for kerrigan use marines and medivacs. load them up right as your cool down for artifact comes up, then wait for her to come out and use it, then go drop them on her and stim up and kill her before she gets to base

almost everythign will die but you can remake marines and medivacs by the time she comes out again. just keep doing this over and over and its easy
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
July 31 2010 09:29 GMT
#52
I did 5 bunkers with 6 marines at each choke along with 8 tanks and 2-3 turrets. I have the middle part with the artifact completely empty and put 4-5 thors up their so when kerrigan comes i can chain stun her in front of my wall. I use 12ish banshees to fly around the map and just snipe the nydus worms and don't use the artifact at all. its much more rewarding ^_^
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
July 31 2010 09:50 GMT
#53
How can people afford to have all the mercs? I feel like I did 90% of the +research missions and +money bonus missions, but still there are a lot of armory upgrades I could not afford, and I only have the tank mercs. :S
Playgu
Groovyschlumpf
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany75 Posts
July 31 2010 09:59 GMT
#54
In the other thread, there are really two nice posts:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139712&currentpage=2#25 (with Nydus w/o air)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139712&currentpage=5#84 (vice versa)

and for both:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139712&currentpage=5#89
"Well, the (football)game lasts 90 Minutes" - Otto Rehagel (his team lost in overtime)
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
July 31 2010 18:10 GMT
#55
On July 31 2010 18:59 Groovyschlumpf wrote:
In the other thread, there are really two nice posts:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139712&currentpage=2#25 (with Nydus w/o air)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139712&currentpage=5#84 (vice versa)


Thank you very much for the links, appreciated!
Sedit qui timuit ne non succederet
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
July 31 2010 19:19 GMT
#56
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139712&currentpage=6#103

I found this strategy is the best (no air). Basically involves putting mass siege tanks with upgrades at the base of the cliff housing the Xel'Naga artifact. I was surprised how easy it was after struggling with it for a couple of days.
Neak
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom124 Posts
July 31 2010 19:54 GMT
#57
No air here too. Mass siege tanks, a few psi distruptors and some battlecruisers to yamato-snipe Kerrigan. Oh and some banshees to snipe the nydus worms but don't just send them on a suicide mission, worms are not that dangerous till they start popping ultralisks, take your time and avoid losing banshees.
KamuL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States154 Posts
July 31 2010 20:16 GMT
#58
mass tank/bunker/planetary fortress/turret/mind-control device.

stole about 60+ mutalisks and they instantly kill kerrigan at that number. then stealing a good 12-20broodlords made it impossible for enemies to get close to the bunkers/PF/siege tanks.

requires a ton of multitask.
IsAi.199 =) Roar
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 31 2010 20:32 GMT
#59
I used masses of Bunkers, Marines and Siege Tanks, plus Banshees to kill off Worms. Used the Artifact ability only when Kerrigan was showing up/had just wrecked 5 Bunkers and 10 Tanks. Started to fill the plateau around the Artifact with Bunkers, timed my Artifact so that I could use it one final time about 15 seconds before the end. Everything I had went down except for a Barracks on the plateau, which was about to get destroyed as well. Artifact was under attack, including Kerrigan. Down to 20% HP. Falling rapidly. Progress Bar hit 100%.
Talk about a close one.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
July 31 2010 21:08 GMT
#60
after getting absolutely destroyed every single time i got banshees and finished it in one go, with a 200/200 for a majority of the game oO
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