EPTThe one thing I would add, is that around 85-90%, start building a fall back line around the base of the high ground. Like the other defense missions, the last 10% is ... unpleasant. Just another bunker wall off (& slow) inside that you can hide your tanks behind to hold on for that last 3-4%. Don't burn the artifact nova early in the last 10% either.
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Moos
4 Posts
The one thing I would add, is that around 85-90%, start building a fall back line around the base of the high ground. Like the other defense missions, the last 10% is ... unpleasant. Just another bunker wall off (& slow) inside that you can hide your tanks behind to hold on for that last 3-4%. Don't burn the artifact nova early in the last 10% either. | ||
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
I had a hunch that killing air would be easier but I just wanted to finish the mission. I just made a bunch of marine/medic/viking. Not having any viking ups from armory didn't help either. -.- | ||
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
what i did was the following. (2 scv tech) spam scvs in the beginning like hell. build two planetary fortresses on each side. 3-4 bunkers filled with marines on each side. a good amount of vikings (+their splash upgrade) to snipe broodlords (i did the "no nydus mission"). like 10 scvs on each side for the bunkers. 6-10 vessels (irridiate still kcks ass) turrets + 4 or more bunkers on the high ground. at least 1 bunker behind your mineral line. get 5 or so barracks to spam marines. helps a lot in the end, when you have a lot of minerals. UPGRADE use your nova very wisely. i was able to save the last one to the very end, which was extremely important. | ||
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feather6
48 Posts
On July 29 2010 19:26 ohN wrote: I killed the nydus worms and this mission took me like 5+ hours.. I had a hunch that killing air would be easier but I just wanted to finish the mission. I just made a bunch of marine/medic/viking. Not having any viking ups from armory didn't help either. -.- Can you give a few more details? I also have no viking ups, and killed the nydus worms. I am getting dominated when the Leviathan shows up.. I just can't get more than 14 or so vikings (inc merc vikings) before it shows up. Can I cheapen my (bunker, rine, tank, psi disrupter, flame turret, a few thor) defenses and get more vikings? Is there a trick to killing the Leviathan? THIS MISSION ENRAGES ME. | ||
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Ventez
Norway107 Posts
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
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Windmonk
Canada93 Posts
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FeeL_ThE_RusH
Ireland227 Posts
This is after choosing to take out air rather than Nydus. For about the first 60% or so I kept my bunkers up in front of the tanks but didn't bother after, instead I started using minerals to pump vultures out of 2 of my tech/reactor factories while the other pumped tanks with what gas I had. Spam mines when you can and try make Kerrigan waste her storm on the vultures. Used a group of 5 banshees(3 normal, 2 mercs) for sniping Nydus. Think constantly having every avenue effected by Psi Emitters was key for me, meant the tanks just annihilated everything. | ||
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Zozo
Brazil2579 Posts
First thing you should accept: Either be confortable with save/load or go back to the previous stage and change your choice. Broodlords are going to rape you, and if you leave one alone for too long, your wall goes down. This was actualy a great multitask practice for me. Begin by having 1/1/2 with tech reactor, wall with barracks and have bunkers and tanks behind them. Slow aoe thing is also great. leave 8-10 scvs at each wall. Make a medivac to rescue your trapped scvs, these will appear very often since you will be making a turret ring. Also try to leave some troops around the middle to deal with broodlings. Now to the hardest part: You are going to pump vikings of 2 starports with reactors. Spread them into four groups (I'm assuming you have their upgrades), one at each choke, one over the relic and one over your command center. Snipe ANY air your see, but don't leave your base, failing to do this will lead to a loss. Use the nova on the overlords or if your wall goes down. Save often, you are probably going to miss a broodlord or 2, so just go back and reaload. In order: wall -> tanks + bunkers + vikings -> aoe slow -> upgrades -> turrets -> even more scvs repairing. goodluck! It all comes down to not wasting more gas then needed on siege tanks and being active with your viking fleet. | ||
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fugu.fugu
Finland10 Posts
Then I tried it with nydus worms. 1st try: 99,8% complete: didn't foresee the nydus worms right next to the relic at the end. Second try, I completed the mission comfortably. Two crucial tactics to use are: - Get a bunch of thors and use the strike cannons on Kerrigan; the cannon stun-locks her for a while, so with enough thors she won't do any damage (permastun). - Get ~10 banshees, and go around sniping nydus worms as soon as they pop up. I often split my banshees into two groups of around 5. I mass thors, a few tanks, mass fire turrets, and a few slow turrets for my walls. | ||
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Sevenofnines
United States167 Posts
On July 30 2010 01:02 feather6 wrote: Can you give a few more details? I also have no viking ups, and killed the nydus worms. I am getting dominated when the Leviathan shows up.. I just can't get more than 14 or so vikings (inc merc vikings) before it shows up. Can I cheapen my (bunker, rine, tank, psi disrupter, flame turret, a few thor) defenses and get more vikings? Is there a trick to killing the Leviathan? THIS MISSION ENRAGES ME. Not sure why you have so few Vikings. When the Leviathan showed up in mine, I already had 8 BC's + Merc BC. I just unloaded all my Yamato Cannons onto him and he died in 5 seconds. If you are dealing with air, you don't need that many tanks. 2-3 Tanks on each side with 2-3 bunkers is enough to hold off the small groups of ground forces. The rest of your resources should go into air defense. | ||
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NIJ
1012 Posts
As for kerrigan, it seems like it doesn't matter what the units are she pretty much 1-2shots it. throw low tier units at her while tanks do the dmg. | ||
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naventus
United States1337 Posts
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st4rfox
Poland15 Posts
as for air, i successfully did it with siege tanks mass vikings & an M&M ball for Kerrigan 4 or 5 siege tanks on each side, 3-4 bunkers there aswell, aswell as a few turrets, build a reactor on your rax and start pumping marines to each side, marines must go in the bunkers or your siege tanks will just fall to the few mutas that come each side, i also got the siege breakers from the mercenaries, 1 each side, they help alot with the increased damage. Another important thing is to have plenty of spare SCV's at each side, just sitting out of harms way and on auto repair. You can afford to spend time on defending the ground at start, once you've got a decent setup on each side, start massing vikings with 2 ports/2 reactors. The hard part is to make sure you're constantly aware of each side to go and snipe all broodlords, as they have infinite broodlings of course. It's also VERY important to have a few vikings and turrets at the back of your base, i'm not sure when but at around 30-40% of the charged artifact, air attacks will come at the back of your base, i had 2 vikings hovering over my CC, used the turrets to snipe the 2 mutass that come and then take the vikings and kill the broodlords. It gets pretty crazy at around 80% with the boss and stuff, just watch your control on your vikings at each kerrigan attack, kerrigan picks them off one by one very fast, so just get them out and deal with her with the tanks. I made one thor for each side at around 45%, you can use the 250mm strike cannons on her to stun and she'll get pounded by your tanks and your small M&M ball (i had around 5 marauders, 10 marines and 5 medics, stimmed and killed her with +2 wep upgrade each time with the siege tank fire it was enough). DO NOT FORGET UPGRADES FOR AIR UNITS, super crucial, build an extra armory at start. At 90% i had to abbondon my sides and take everything to the artifcat, i built 2 bunkers at each side and got a few tanks behind, and barely managed to hang on. Definetly the hardest mission in the game (with air enabled) gl! | ||
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fugu.fugu
Finland10 Posts
On July 30 2010 04:03 naventus wrote: Ignore the advice about Thors. I tried this out, and the cannons do not stun her at all. Maybe that mission got to me and I am now crazy, but I could have sworn the stun works. FWIW I was spamming the 250mm cannon with 6+ thors in very quick succession. Can anyone else confirm/deny? | ||
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NIJ
1012 Posts
That and banshee+wraith in far fewer numbers compared to vikings in air mission can handle nydus worm effectively. | ||
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Toadily
United States837 Posts
On July 30 2010 04:32 fugu.fugu wrote: Maybe that mission got to me and I am now crazy, but I could have sworn the stun works. FWIW I was spamming the 250mm cannon with 6+ thors in very quick succession. Can anyone else confirm/deny? It definitely works, I was able to comfortably beat it with all my walls still up and sitting at 200/200 because of this, before I used this Kerrigan would constantly break through my wall and the swarm would follow before I could rebuild it. | ||
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kruder
Romania36 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
Oh, and I was dealing with Nydus Worms, and I didn't go out and eliminate the ones outside of my base. Ended with something like 8500 kills. :D | ||
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shinosai
United States1577 Posts
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