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bowserbowser
13 Posts
The one where the fire moves across the map slowly and you get very few mineral resources, u have to keep moving your base. there are tons of protoss bases and so many units. How do you beat this level on brutal. uve been trying banshees and marines and medics, hasnt been working. too many protoss units. any suggestions? | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
The fire actually halts just in front of the objective for around 10-20 seconds before proceeding forward, allowing ample time for a group of units to sneak along the side of the protoss base and snipe the building. | ||
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Knutzi
Norway664 Posts
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balistix
Croatia63 Posts
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MalMal
Canada94 Posts
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TrevorJK
United States77 Posts
2) Load everything into hercules/medivac 3) Lift buildings and hide towards bottom right (kind of by the relic) 4) Wait til the last base is almost completely destroyed by fire then clean up & kill the the final artifact | ||
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Snaphoo
United States614 Posts
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perfectflaw72
Canada94 Posts
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Veritassong
Canada393 Posts
I had a test. if just fly starport to the right side, the temple will have 30 hp when ur starport dies (temple burns first) | ||
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Kisra
United Kingdom466 Posts
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Snaphoo
United States614 Posts
- 10-ish banshees - A Hercules with filled with MMM - 4-5 Vikings Also, if you get Ravens, Point Defense Drone is incredibly useful. Basically yeah, move to expansion near the bottom right ASAP; the cannons in between go down easily to banshees & a PDD over a Hercules dropping. Mass forces and attack whenever you're out of money or the fire is perilously close to the Temple. There's a carrier that requires the Vikings; otherwise it's pretty straightforward. The MMM does a good job of distracting archons/stalkers/etc. from focusing on your Banshees, which are the real DPS-dealers on the temple. | ||
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Snaphoo
United States614 Posts
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Snowfield
1289 Posts
just keep microing so you don't lose many banshees, watch out for storms to bust the last toss base i made a mer compound and just got one of each merc and charged in with my remaining army i had to save/load when i did a good base transfer | ||
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Nightfal
United States77 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
So far, mass banshees with 4-5 vikings with MMM didn't work and hiding on the side didn't work. I mine out the first three bases but by the fourth I just run out of steam and cannot take it with such a weak army. My main problem is that I have to use my banshees for everything. They HAVE to clear out the next base full of colossi and immortals because my ground forces get raped. While they're out, I get attacked and have to run them all the way back to deal with it, then run them all the way back to the offensive, and I just run out of time. Haven't used mercs yet though, I think that's where I'll go next. OMG, I just got shafted again. Mercs worked great, but right as I killed the temple I got "The artifact has been destroyed by the fire." Fuck you blizzard T_T | ||
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SBelmont
United States122 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
Using fire to wipe out most of the base works as well. | ||
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Latham
9560 Posts
Clear out the base in between your inital base + the one suggested by the AI. Get 1 medivac and summon war pigs. Always, always when you transfer to a new base, first thing you do should be putting up a bunk and getting war pigs into it. When you clear out the 2nd base, transfer everything where the AI suggested. Add a 2nd starport. Pump viking/banshee. After defending each enemy wave go a little south-east of your base and clear out the protoss there for a 4th landing site. send your unused rax and factory there. plant 1 of them down there and send the other a little east to a secret loaction under the protoss base. When the fire finally reaches your main base in the middle of the map, it's time to roll out for the artifact. Hotkey all your banshees/vessels or raven to 1 hotkey and all your viking to another. You should have around 11-ish of both vikings and banshees if oyu macroed right. Now go north east of your base with them. You'll find 3 stalker + 2 canns there. Suicide your war pigs + medivac on that and kill them with banshees. After you clear that, there is a protoss base north of it. Snipe both warp prisms powering the canns and all the phoenixes and scouts that will come. With the banshees kill the few stalkers and archons that will get in your way. After that just bypass the whole base. In between the 2 protoss bases you'll find a small air area for you to regroup in. Kill the scouts and prisms powering the cannons once your ready. Now you're behind the temple itself. Beware, there will be phoenixes coming at you still. Around 3-4-5. Kill them with the vikings and then the pylon powering the last 2 cannons. Now just focus fire on the temple with your banshees from behind so the archons won't be able to hit you. You're done. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
Just as the fire was about to pause i stormed in, dropped behind the artifact, took out the 2 cannons there and let the fire do ~80% of the damage for me while i "hit last" so the kill counted for me (instead of the fire which triggers a loss) good times^^ | ||
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Snowfield
1289 Posts
For this mission you just mass banshees and merc vikings, but the bunker + siege tanks work good as a little defence | ||
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biarecare
United States76 Posts
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Sosseres
Sweden41 Posts
Make sure to buy mercenaries prior to it burning up. | ||
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
Anyways I failed 3 or 4 times at this mission until I realized the mercs are fucking awesome. I always made sure to keep that merc building up at each base + massing Banshee + Marine/Medic out of the regular barracks. Once I was at the last possible base to mine i'd purchased all the available mercs so they were all out in the shop + mass banshee and some other stuff i could scrape together. Oh and I had like 20+ scvs in the end so I sent em in too  Required some microing, the solutions just going pure banshee and hide in the right hand corner seems like a much "easier" way to do it if you don't like the stress | ||
GTR
51429 Posts
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
Just micro your marines to absorb the damage, and use banshees to snipe templar. | ||
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ellep200
Sweden24 Posts
What I did: Made 3x racks and leave them without add-ons at the first base. Do nothing but defend until you're mined out while building marines/medics. As soon as I got my hero marines/marauders, which should be just a minute before your base would catch on fire if it was still around, I would go clean out the 2nd location. At the 2nd location I would get 2x tech labs and a reactor to get more marauders into my unit comp. I would mine for as long as possible obviously and leave when the fire started catching up. By this time I had enough units to easily clean out the 3d and take control of it. At the 3d I made tech labs/reactors aswell, to replenish the number of units I lost the most. As far as I can remember it was marines dying to storm. Although at this point the mission was cake so I decided to throw in a few spectres and nuke the protoss' final stand. GG MMM(edic). GL & HF. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Marine/Medic/Tank/Banshee. Don't lose ANY banshees bar 1-2. You need to build them up so they can snipe anything that's a threat to MM. Use tanks to kill cannons once you take the middle base. Dodge any storms or more likely use banshees to snipe them. Once you get your tanks up and running its an easy push into the protoss bases. Kill most of the stuff under tank support and clean the rest with MM. Don't risk banshees to cannons they're for important stuff like colossus (1t run away your MM here) and storm (same deal) Like 2 rax/1port/1fact was enough to macro. You always move out after killing an attack. I honestly found the TvP Missions really easy. Marine medic + whatever support unit is appropriate. Maybe it's because you have to be agressive, while I'm not a natural turtler so I found TvZ turtle missions harder. (Utter darkness was like me running around with a deathball so that's like PvZ normally anyway). The dig was a pain though, got too impatient I suppose and didn't use my laser enough. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Uriel_SVK
Slovakia427 Posts
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McPwnage
Canada48 Posts
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On July 30 2010 19:40 GTR wrote: how do you get past the templar group at the fourth relic and the end base? i always seem to get owned by storms. Wait till the fire kills them lol | ||
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Veshzan
United Kingdom3 Posts
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0mar
United States567 Posts
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
After the second base air starts to come so start massing banshees + vikings with more vessels. Vessel is probably on of the most OP units in the sp. So mass banshee + sv + vikings got me through that mission easily. SV just repairs so damn fast. To clarify I didn't make anything else than Banshees, SV's and Vikings and yes I play on Brutal. Edit: The last base you just have to micro your banshees out of the storms and target the NON hallucinated units, and micro vikings that they shoot the air from the back and not getting picked off by stalkers. SV repairs very fast so storms just tickle a little. | ||
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AlienAlias
United States324 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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Katkishka
United States648 Posts
Even then I just got a bunch of vikings to snipe the 2 obs they had, and moved the banshees around above the artifact temple so ground units couldn't attack them. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Deathizer
Canada1 Post
Pumped a few SCVs for gas economy Pumped banshees and 2 vikings from the single starport As the fire wave got close, lifted off all buildings and sent them towards the bottom of the map, then towards the bottom right corner. On the way to the bottom right corner there's a group of units guarding a tech thinger and an expo location. I cleared it with cloaked banshees, and had to micro a bit to kill a scout with the two vikings. My CC went weird and got damaged, then I landed it and tried to build an SCV to repair it but maphacks got it killed. Then at the bottom right corner there's a few cannons powered by warp prisms (and maybe stalkers too but I forget) which I had to clear with banshees, microing so none died. After you get all your buildings and units into the bottom right corner, cheating brutal computer sends warp prisms and lands immortals, senties, and zealots under your buildings. Focus the senties (obviously) then pick off the rest. You can cloak to avoid damage but I preferred to soak it with the units as I had Regenerative Biosteel and would just regen, in order to keep my buildings at full HP. Eventually the drops stopped happening ( I don't know why, perhaps I killed all the void prisms?) and I could wait until the fire wave came. First try, I waited for the firewave to take everything out, ran in with banshees, did some damage, the banshees then burned to death, and the firewave destroyed the temple before my Starport. "The Artifact has been burned by the fire!" And I lost. Reload, this time not waiting too long. I waited until the cannon closest to the bottom right corner was destroyed (or unpowered I forget) and then proceeded. I had to destroy one cannon in order to shoot safely. I'm pretty sure the temple was being burned, but perhaps the artifact was in the East part of the temple. (Maybe you need the last hit? Who knows..) At any rate, I was able to do this with only 6 banshees. I believe all it takes is good timing. Good luck. | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
Don't know if they're smarter on brutal and aggro more but I'll try the same. | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
A lot of these missions are doable by just not fighting and sniping the objectives. | ||
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ETHANOL
Canada68 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
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JunZ
United States314 Posts
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
On August 03 2010 01:17 JunZ wrote: You don't need to do the bonus objectives Ayadew. Just beat it on brutal and get the relics on a lower difficulty. I'm doing it for the achievement, so yes I do need them hehe thanks anyway Found it now.. it's in the middle down | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On August 03 2010 01:11 ETHANOL wrote: did it with pure vikings and got the save 2 outpost achievement on brutal, get 2 armories, start weapon upg asap then get some scvs and build a bunker for first attack, then get more vikings, go kill the carriers just before they hit the camp, then you come back just in time to kill the colossi, when u pick up ressource, start lvl 2 weapon and level 1 plating, take your vikings to top right base and hit the prisms/ phoenixes, land on high ground, kill nexus. Mass vikings now with all your cash and go around 2nd protoss base (snipe the warp prisms) +1 colossi, land on high ground and kill nexus. Then, kill 2nd protoss attack and go back to your base to defend those 2 carriers and colossi, go str8 to third protoss base start off by killing warp prisms, carrier, colossi and void ray with your super range, then go from behind, land and target nexus, fly back, send all your scvs to 3rd refugee camp repairing your vikings and massing turrets with the cash you got left, the mothership should arrive just in time and you just attack it you have so many vikings it goes down pretty fast Wrong mission. And you can't land. Archons wreck Vikings at the third base. | ||
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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EnigmaZero
United States56 Posts
14 banshees, 6 vikings and 3 vessels was enough to easily overtake the last base on brutal. I also have the regenerative mech zerg research, which helped a bit in healing up. Keeping the vikings alive is extremely important as you'll face several scouts and phoenixes at the end. Also there is an observer sitting right on top of the objective but if you have a vessel or raven you can detect and kill it. | ||
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On August 03 2010 10:48 SC2Phoenix wrote: Why even go MnMnM is beyond me. You can totaly cheat this mission like every other. Get armory asap and head towards +3 air attack. have 2 starports with tech reactors (or with3-4 techs) and just pump banshees. As the fire moves use pure banshee to kill the first base and keep mining. Eventually youll have 40 banshees and you can just right click the target and dont worry about any enemies. When the toss storms just move out of the way and keep shotting at the target. Because not everyone plays the entire game, then plays this mission? Stop coming up with ridiculous solutions that involve getting the maximum upgrade technology. If people had that, they wouldn't have trouble in the first place. Is the cheese strategy to hide a bunch of banshees and buildings in a corner until the map burns out and then snipe the temple? Sounds doable. | ||
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jmark
United States4 Posts
I saved every time I transferred bases because I'd lose concentration and fly my banshees right into a storm every now and then. After hitting up each base attacked the protoss camp with banshees, flying around the edges picking off what I could before moving in for the kill. It's annoying having to rebuild your tech lab each time you move. I think I had science vessels as well by the time I played this mission; unfortunately they just die if you cloak your banshees, so I didn't use cloak at all. Just don't lose any banshees and you're gold. | ||
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CScythe
Canada810 Posts
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kaztal
Sweden68 Posts
thought this mission would be hard but it turned out really easy. | ||
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NETRAT
Belarus180 Posts
stimpacks and medic upgrades are super strong for their cost ye HT raped half of my army in the end but i stimed again and focus fired temple pretty fast | ||
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
A few tips: - Bring detection for illusions :p - Kill the base north of you before it gets killed by the fire, get ressources on the ground and from the dead nexus. - Land your buildings as far right as you can whenever you stop. - Tanks > cannons and small armies with illusions. No need for merc tanks, any will do. - If you just keep whatever kind of army alive you will have a small passageway to the objective with perhaps 1 cannon 1 archon or similiar surviving to engage you (with the fire to your left smoldering the last base). | ||
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Av4st
Canada92 Posts
Also, cloaked banshees can solo clear the first two bottom minable areas before attacking the first real protoss base. For the first minable area just kill everything and then use a few marine+medic to kill the remaining scout at the relic area. As for the second, snipe the pylon from the southeast. I usually clear the first area after the 2nd attack wave and the second while im mining at the first and have a decent sized mmm concave. After you clear the second area, you can also freely attack the probe line of the first protoss base which makes some of the defending units come try to assist and also die. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Banshees imo don't work well because of storm and Phoneixes. | ||
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okrane
France265 Posts
For the last base you can sneak up and kill the temple w/o killing the whole protoss force. | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
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ETHANOL
Canada68 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On August 03 2010 20:35 okrane wrote: Mass Banshee + 2 Science Vessel + 4-5 Vikings. Its all you need. For the last base you can sneak up and kill the temple w/o killing the whole protoss force. yup. dats the cheapest way of doing the mission and it works. | ||
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Kelorienne
United States50 Posts
I tried killing the pylon first but the 2 photon cannons crushed me | ||
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teKnetium
2 Posts
requires: hercules suggested: orbital command, medic upgrades scv/mule/reactor on rax, fusion core when starts. pump a few medics and a few marines, when fusion core finishes build a hercules, banshees are kinda useless because they'll have detection. when fire gets near, lift off buildings to bottom and start sending them > but not too far so that they get attacked by toss. load up all units including scv into your hercules, scv will be used as hit takers and repairers. take your hercules to the top and then >, you will get hit a few times but its ok sicne your hercules has lots of hp. drop right on top of the first cannon behind the artifact, and then kill that and the 2nd cannon. when it is clear, pick up and drop where the 2nd cannon was to kill the pylon from there. then, pick up/drop where that pylon (SAVE HERE) was and have your hercules spot the high ground (hold position is useful because it will try to run from air units) however, your herculues should survive because it has a ton of scv repairing it, after you take out archons/air/ whatever kill the artifact. my first time aruond a ton of collosus came because i guess i was too slow so thats when i reloaded my save. remember to have hercules spot the high ground for you | ||
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Empath
Canada44 Posts
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allyourbase
United States243 Posts
On August 04 2010 18:30 Empath wrote: I'm trying this MMM/Banshee strategy everyone seems to rave about, but my marines get melted by colossi whenever I try to attack the first base. What am I doing wrong? Im having the same problem. I eventually tried the strategy where you hide your buildings/units in the bottom right corner and let the fire clear out the protoss base, but either I would go too early and my banshees would die, or I would wait too long and the fire would destroy the artifact. Im thinking about just trying a mass medic/marauder drop from a Hercules. Also, I was reading some posts where people claimed they were still able to win even with the fire attacking the temple. Do you just have to make sure you get the last hit, or is the artifact located far right enough to give a little extra time? | ||
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atombombforpeace
United States408 Posts
For the relic, a cheap way to do it (like you can do with any relic) is just to save energy on your orbital command if you have it, scan and mule the exact relic spot. 100 energy and no units (the mules doesn't count!) lost to extract any relic later on in the game. | ||
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JunZ
United States314 Posts
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allyourbase
United States243 Posts
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btlyger
United States470 Posts
Basically, you just take banshees + a few wraiths, fly around the top, kill 3 cannons near the thing you need to kill, take out the scouts with the wraiths, and then cloak and kill the thing. I completed this mission in like 15 minutes using this strategy, its super easy and requires no thought or skill whatsoever. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
I just went pure M&M except for my starting banshees and didn't really have any trouble. Psi storms can potentially make for a bad day, but templar are only in the latter parts of the mission and by then your bio ball should be big enough that unless you mismicro pretty horrendously you can take the hits. | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On July 29 2010 10:57 Logican wrote: lol ,just mass banshees, and fly everything to the right side of the screen, where the 4th relic is. then let the fire burn, until it starts hitting the temple, and u just fly in alllll of ur banshees and do as much dmg as u can. even if all them die. ull win because the temple starts burning earlier than ur own buildings, and its a close starport vs tower. I had a test. if just fly starport to the right side, the temple will have 30 hp when ur starport dies (temple burns first) Haha! Wow, that's really clever. I wish I thought of that. I mostly used banshees like most people and had 2 drops with siege tanks. After many tries I saw a pit to the north of the temple. I dropped my tanks there and some SCVs and built a bunch of turrets to cover the tanks. I'd run in my banshees every now and then to see if there is opposition and if there was I dragged them close the cliff edge to greet my tanks.  I had siege tank +40 damage and turret splash. For this mission. | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
I dont get why people dont try playing on a hard or normal course, to get the achievements, then play Brutal with the whole map in your head. | ||
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Mr42
Slovakia18 Posts
1) get your protoss tech up to science vessels 2) make 2-4 SVs 3) non-stop banshee production, some M&M or vikings to back them up 4) dodge the storms | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
I don't know about you guys, but I had trouble even getting to the second base. Which is ridiculous. I would lose my whole army, rebuild with even less time, and get stomped. So, I decided to cheese. I built 6-7 Banshees, 1 Medivac and 3 Vikings by the time the fire came, and stockpiled at least 300/300. I sent all my units and buildings straight north, then east, so they arrived in the top right corner. You have to do it really slowly, snipe a photon and a prism, but don't get too eager, you need to keep at least 4 Banshees alive. By the time I got in the corner, I had a Command Center, and a Barracks left. There is JUST enough space to fit the Barracks, so I landed it, and massed Marines and Medics. The Marines and Medics can take out the Photon Cannons, if you drop them properly, and most importantly, act as anti-air for your Banshees, because Vikings kill too slowly. The fire came, and destroyed most of the Protoss, and I hid my Banshees at the extreme edge, so that I could pick off the base without being seen. They saw 3 of my 4 Banshees but I didn't know where his last detector was, but the last one, still cloaked, managed to pick off the temple. Ridiculous mission, but that's just me. | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
Pure M&M pwns basically everything in most Brutal missions up to that one at least. | ||
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Tozar
United States245 Posts
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Nenari
1 Post
Moved along the bottom route. Pretty easy by then. Still, watch for storms. | ||
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On August 06 2010 14:41 Nenari wrote: Mission was tough until i went banshees + vikings + science vessels. Moved along the bottom route. Pretty easy by then. Still, watch for storms. i think the top route is easier because of the line of cannons in the top right corner of the map is easily taken out and give you free shots at the artifact. but yes, with banshee, viking and vessels, i literally 1a'ed to victory from my 1st base on brutal. | ||
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On July 29 2010 08:14 bowserbowser wrote: Have a lot of trouble with the Supernova level on Brutal. The one where the fire moves across the map slowly and you get very few mineral resources, u have to keep moving your base. there are tons of protoss bases and so many units. How do you beat this level on brutal. uve been trying banshees and marines and medics, hasnt been working. too many protoss units. any suggestions? Mass banshees, tanks and marines. Always look to clear out a base so that once the fire starts getting near your base you can relocate. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On August 05 2010 11:07 btlyger wrote: I don't understand why people are having a bunch of trouble on this. Basically, you just take banshees + a few wraiths, fly around the top, kill 3 cannons near the thing you need to kill, take out the scouts with the wraiths, and then cloak and kill the thing. I completed this mission in like 15 minutes using this strategy, its super easy and requires no thought or skill whatsoever. You sure you did it on brutal? I did that and they still see right through the cloak which makes me think they have observers there. I didn't have orbitals or science vessels available. | ||
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n3mo
United States298 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Lots of medics and mercenaries. I just defended my moving base with my ground army while banshees harassed where they could. Crept along the map, no problem. | ||
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fant0m
964 Posts
When I first went up to the north base, grabbed the mineral/gas pickups, built 2 tanks + MM, and siege pushed the 2nd base in with banshees just supporting, it was much easier. Once I had the 2nd base, I mined that out, and a little bit from the minerals just northeast of the 2nd base, I was able to amass like 10-15 banshees and 7-8 vikings. It was trivial to basically abandon my SCVs, tanks, and MM (used them to help a little with the north base, clearing it as I could), lift off my buildings, and send everything to the top right corner. There were 2 cannons, 2 scouts (2 warp prisms) at the top, easy to clear. I was going to wait for the fire, but I realized I was right on top of the relic anyway, so I just went down and used my vikings to take out warp prisms and scouts. Banshees killed the relic in like 10 seconds. I didn't have to deal with the main base around the relic at all, or any High Templars. 0 storms the whole time. Just be careful, Immortals and Stalkers will come from both directions at the 2nd base (from Northwest and Southeast). Keep your tanks and MM in position to defend both (abuse Bunkers). | ||
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NeonGenesis
Norway260 Posts
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Macavity
United States83 Posts
I also only used three tanks as well. (I rebuilt the mercenary compound and got the siege tank mercenaries at the second base. They are favorite mercenaries!) This mission is frustration because you constantly have no time. But if you inch forward and forward with tanks (and a marine/medic ball to guard), you will do fine. Only at the very end, at the artifact, was there serious resistance. After so much of my army being wiped out by psi storms, carriers, archons, and whatever else is being thrown at you, I still had a couple of tanks and a few marines survive which proceeded to destroy the artifact. Tip: at the end, don't focus on wiping out the protoss base. Just inch forward with tanks straight to the artifact. I took the bottom route. | ||
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alucardme87
Vietnam25 Posts
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Sandrosuperstar
Sweden525 Posts
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ice3001
Canada2 Posts
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
was actually pretty easy. you just won't be able to do it with just two expos. you got to get as many expos mined out as possible. i dd this with 2 command centers. cleared out like 4 or 5 expos and it was pretty easy in the end | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
You don't even need positioning tricks, with mediocre micro and cloak you can smash right through the P base towards the artifact. | ||
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Yamoth
United States315 Posts
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Aeroz135
48 Posts
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
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excess
Germany24 Posts
i start to make banshees from beginning and use them to clear expo in south between 2 protos artifacts and deffend my base with them. its usefull to send at least 4 scvs to gather gas and use mules to gather minerals. u should build a new cc at the expo as fast as u can too. after the left upper protos base is gone u should clear the middle protos base and expo northeast of this base and fly ur cc's over there. u should build there second starport and 2 upgradebuildings too and upgrade ur ships until the end. there u should make some vikings (8-10) and kill the protos base at southeast and fly ur buildings over there and build more banshees as long as u can. then u can wait until protos base is almoust destroyed or just fly vikings over protosbase to lure attention while killing missiontarget with banshees. u can use scan to kill observer with vikings too to make it easier. to clean up 2 protosbases u have to kill canons with banshees at first base and then u can stealth and fly in and clean this up. at 2. base u can just kill this protos dropships with vikings and after that clean the base with stealthed banshees. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
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HighOnFire
1 Post
Just make banshees. 2nd starport at your 1st base and pump them out. Obviously make optimum # of SCVs as well (having MULES helps to get quick minerals). When the dude warns you about impending firey doom, go and take the highlighted base out. It's no threat really just take out the pylons and cannons. Watch out for attacks on your first base though, optimally begin attacking the protoss base right after their latest attack wave. OK, now just ship your buildings/scvs over there and start gathering/massing more banshees. Also build a single missile turret to take out pesky phoenixes (banshees can rape everything else). You should really not have lost any banshees so far, 1 max really. Now when you're either out of res or the firewall is closing in, take alllll of your banshees and fly straight up to the top of the screen. At the very top, fly right, stopping only to destroy the cannons with focus fire. Keep moving fast to the right corner, take out the three cannons there, and attack the objective. In the top right corner your banshees are above rocks, and only the phoenixes attack them. Piece of cake. If the protoss rage in at your base, lift off your buildings to give yourself enough time to finish the mission. This is obviously the cheap, easy way to get brutal completion. My hat off to anyone who took the time and effort to destroy the protoss. tl;dr: mass banshee, fly up, across top to top right corner, attack objective and win | ||
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Snacker
10 Posts
On August 13 2010 07:25 HighOnFire wrote: tl;dr: mass banshee, fly up, across top to top right corner, attack objective and win i did just that, different only with 2 herkules full of mmm | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
if done the way it´s meant to be, this mission is indeed hell. | ||
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RawrAnOcean
United States359 Posts
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Yosho
585 Posts
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baconbits
United States419 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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mr.ioes
4 Posts
part1: part2: *2 CCs *mass banshees + wraiths/vikings *use a MULE drop to gather the last artefact. hope it helps. | ||
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ghettohobbit2
United States93 Posts
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aeoliant
Canada361 Posts
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Archon_Wing
United States378 Posts
Orbital CC and Auto-Refinery is god for this mission. If you don't have it, that's fine but it'd be much harder. Heavy Banshee is pretty much the way to go at the start. Just make nothing but them. Once you have a bunch, use them to slowly pick off the units on the path to the south, there's some minerals and a relic there. But don't go too fast as the Protoss will launch some attacks; I think 2-3 cloaked banshees at home with your standing army will do fine. There's also a random scout guarding the relic, but with cloak, you can just destroy everything else and finish the scout off with some marines or vikings later on when you come to claim the nearby resources and the relic. When the fire almost gets at your base, your mercenaries should be ready, if you have the Viking merc that'll help a lot. If not, just hire random ones to give you more cover power-- you do not want random crap coming in and slaughtering all your scvs/buildings while your banshees are fighting. Go wipe up the base to your east with Banshees; don't bother sending any ground troops. You can use your ground troops to retrieve the relic which is kinda up north if you want. In the meantime, float your CC to the south minerals and mine for a bit. If you have Orbital CC this will go along very well. Once you've cleared out the middle Toss base, move your mining to their base instead. You should really make a few extra vikings/banshees, but from now on, save up your resources for mercenaries. You should use siege breakers to take out the cannons to the next resource area quickly because the fire will be on your ass soon, move out to the next resource node and do not set up base here; you're just here to exploit the minerals and you will be leaving very soon. Hire as many mercs as you can, marauders, marine mercs are awesome to absorb some damage and kill the southern base. The relic is near the far east, use a siege tank to take out the cannons and lure anything else out. Then just send a marine to finish off the high templar and grab the relic. :p The enemy is gonna still get storms on you, but fortunately that group of mercs will take the damage instead of your banshees and vikings. Oh yea, and watch out for the odd carrier... Move everything to the south, and set your production buildings all the way at the edge of the map /w addons.Once the fire gets near the final mining area, siege just below the ramp, wait a bit to clear out the front defenses, and rush in with everything that's not a banshee. Suicide your vikings up north towards the relic to clear out any phoneix/scouts/obs nearby and everyone else should kill the cannons. A lot of your shit will die but If you manage to have a few cloaked banshees left, you'll take down the relic pretty easily-- most of the toss are fried anyways by now. Overall, focusing on mercs helped the most. Guess the cost of those addons do add up. | ||
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Clcsed
United States7 Posts
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mr.ioes
4 Posts
On August 17 2010 08:06 Clcsed wrote: I just massed vikings from the first base, ran along the bottom and right side, flew behind the artifact and landed. The archons can't hit you. uhm... and what about the phoenix, high templars and cannons? well... which difficulty did you play at? | ||
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Clcsed
United States7 Posts
edit: just redid it for a save state if u want it. oh and i meant top side =/ | ||
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mr.ioes
4 Posts
On August 17 2010 08:33 Clcsed wrote: Brutal. Took 13:20. edit: just redid it for a save state if u want it. oh and i meant top side =/ y thats what i guessed, top side i actually did it in 7:12 ^^ €: | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
When you are ready, you can fly your forces towards the 4th relic and then straight up and demolish the artifact. If you want to be really cheap, near the end of the mission (when the fire wall draws near), lift your facs/raxes/starports and fly them to the right of the map (where the last relic is) and just wait along with your banshees and vikings. The toss base will be demolished, including his HT's and most of the units. Right before the fire wall reaches the artifact fly your banshees to demolish it (and the cannons shooting at you) and your vikings will easily cover you from the few remaining protoss air units. | ||
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Clcsed
United States7 Posts
On August 17 2010 08:53 mr.ioes wrote: y thats what i guessed, top side i actually did it in 7:12 ^^ €: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN8rTdwQdvY Aww I thought I was so smart too. You win the thread. | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On August 17 2010 15:50 Clcsed wrote: Aww I thought I was so smart too. You win the thread. so gross i <3 youtube | ||
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LionsFist
Australia164 Posts
Second base (bottom right near second relic): Move here when you have to, keep pumping banshees. As soon as you land on your bottom part here, start clearing out the main protoss base. Float your factory up to the north so you can get advanced warning on when the protoss moves out to attack you. You'll again have to do picking attacks here and bounce back and forth between defending and attacking, but you should be able to clear them out without many troubles. Third base (Protoss old base): Build a second starport here with reactor and start pumping vikings from this one. Use your banshees to clear out the northish expo if you expanded earlier, and mine from both these at once, if not, don't bother. Takes too long to establish otherwise. Keep up the defense while you bring up your viking numbers (Don't go crazy, 8 or so should be enough, as long as you don't lose too many being silly). Keep pumping your banshees from your first starport. Should be at a very solid air army by now. When you feel comfortable (or feel able to snipe out the warp prisms in 1 hit), start moving into the south protoss base. Clear this out and move over for the final push. Forth base (Second old protoss base): Again here, start pumping more banshee's and vikings. Use your barracks to pump a small force of marauders if you're having trouble dodging storms, and use these to snipe them before you move in. Clear out the last relic and start moving into the main base, being sure to avoid the storms as best as possible. As said in other posts, here you can sit back and wait against the edge of the map for the fire to destroy part of the base if you want, or you can be a man and take out the base with force. If you have Science Vessels by now, you won't be reading here for help... | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
Base 1 Location: As soon as you get your first base, get a few more SCVs, start producing more banshees and quickly add on a second starport (as far to the right as you can get it in your first base) keep making additional banshees. Cloak your banshees and clear the 3 nearby artifact areas. Watch the minimap, you can see a group moving out of the top left toss base, thats the signal to come home. Mine from this base as long as you possibly can. When you've cleared all of the artifact spots its time to start working towards base 2. Base 2 Location: Base 2 has 3 pylons total, 2 in the middle 1 up north. Start in the south, cloak and snipe the two pylons in the middle. Clear the base as fast as possible from that point. Float all of your buildings over and establish yourself. By the time you've landed the flame should just about be consuming the merc building. At this point I spent mins to get the 3 merc vikings, they do wonders with AA for the rest of the mission. Keep producing more banshees and an occasional viking. Essentially now you need to clear out the spot just a tiny bit east of you (don't go too far, you'll go into the base) and then push south and there should be a small min patch there. Base 3 Location: Clear out this min patch to the south east of your 2nd base. It only has a few cannons and units. Don't go too far east or you'll wind up in a small protoss base. Mine here for a while, land your starports as far to the right as you can and resume producing banshee/viking. Time to start clearing out the protoss base immediately to the right of you, this is Base 4. Base 4 Location: You'll have to fly around and dodge some storms, but pretty much if you've been getting your bases fast enough and have been producing from 2 starports the whole time you shouldn't have many problems. Once you've cleared it, move on over from Base 3 and as usual put the starports as far right as you safely can. This is the final base you get, don't move out until the fire is almost going to burn your CC. Keep producing air units like mad. When the fire is almost ontop of your CC it's time to lift it. Lift your rax and fact at the same time, send them as far to the right as possible. Meanwhile just a little bit east of your position is the 4th artifact, go ahead and clear it out and grab it. Race the clock: Now if you've been doing well you have enough forces to just outright crack what is left. Favor the right hand side as much as possible and push north through the toss base. You should fairly comfortably kill what remains including the temple. I believe I finished the mission with 8-10 banshees and 3-5 vikings and a few scvs before the fire was in danger of hitting the temple. If you haven't been doing well you should wait a little longer and let the fire do as much work for you as possible. Just don't wait too long or else you're boned. I think this mission took me 3 tries, one time I just failed miserably, died getting base 2. Second time I died while I was taking base 3. Third time I managed to finish. | ||
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Deathfate
Spain555 Posts
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Kaboomerang
United States4 Posts
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mr.ioes
4 Posts
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Chaosquo
Germany154 Posts
On August 20 2010 07:03 Kaboomerang wrote: Just Get Science Vessels+Mass Banshees+6-8Vikings, the the Vessels healing damaged banshee(get vandium armor upgrades) you won't lose any. this. I got the attack upgrades, and I also wiped out half of the last base. to be fair, I did it with full research. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
It takes a while longer this way, but once you have a significant force, you can just roll through everything. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
OR you could just man it and mass MM with banshee support and roll the toss like me | ||
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Casta
Denmark234 Posts
It seems this mission is very exploitable with cloaked units, so I backed up the banshees with ghost/spectre and wraith instead of vikings. You will be pretty low on money, so you can't just a-move your force in this mission and remake it if they die. Here are a few tips: If you have orbital command, use mules to mine the minerals faster so you can move on to other mining sites more quickly and thereby having a greater force at the end of the mission. If you went for raven use the pdd to minimize damage to your units. If you went for science vessels, make them early on and use them to repair your force instead of scvs. Watch out for storm! Especially near the temple at the end. If you get hit by storm I recommend you retreat and repair before going back, but try to snipe them while cloaked. As usual, near the temple try to take out the detection fast, there is an observer for detection also and not just cannons, so snipe it if you can. Also be aware of the cannons behind the temple which may provide detection to nearby units if you get too close. Also if you feel like a baller, make a lot of shadow ops when mining the last base and nuke the temple to hell | ||
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
I ended up making a whack of Banshees and Vikings, flew them to a safe spot on the extreme right edge of the map as I massed more and more. I got resources for massing units by taking easy expos. I skipped any large fights that would reduce my force. From there, I waited until the wall of fire moved across the map. It wipes out all defenders, including the majority of those guarding the artifact. When the wall of fire did enough damage to the defenders, and was nearing the artifact (I think it even lowers it's shield), I just skimmed north along the edge of the map and took it down. Was really easy... although I suspect very cheap | ||
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faction123
Australia949 Posts
When you have to move your base, move to the closest base, NOT the protoss base. Squeeze out 2 or 3 more Banshees then move out. Basically I run my banshees in along the very top of the map and once I get to the far right edge, I start killing cannons along the way. Usually have 8~ banshees left at this point. 6 of them die because the blind spot can only fit 2, but the 2 left kill the Artifact before they're out of energy. I recommend saving your game as you fly in and experiment yourself for a little bit to find this blind spot if you're having trouble doing the mission "honorably". | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
I beat that level easily. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
edit: I also did it pretty early, without OC or tech reactors. This mission really shouldn't be a problem, just don't be overafraid of the fire. It's pretty slow. | ||
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Vanimar
220 Posts
Build maybe a bunker against the incomming forces, but with cloack you should be fine. When the Firenova reaches your base, build Banshees as long as you can! When you run out of gas/time save the game and look for a way to the top right corner of the map (there are some cannons there so you will lose some). Kill the cannons behind the target structure and after that the target structure itself. Pretty cheesy and easy =) | ||
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PimpMobeel
120 Posts
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Grond
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TMTurtle
183 Posts
Mined out the first base, then moved to the second mini-base to the immediate right. Didn't kill the protoss base, just floated over to the base below it. Brought marines/scvs/etc. with a single medivac. When I did this transfer, I also made a Tech lab with my Factory and made a viking during that cycle. Kept massing Banshees. Eventually, I floated my Factory at the bottom of the map and to the right side of the map to the immediate left of the last Research, bringing my Viking with it. Made a Tech Lab on the Factory, made a Siege Tank, then Siege Moded up. Lifted the Factory for sight, and the tank kills the Templar, then I just landed my Viking on top of the Research and moved my Factory a bit lower to be safe from counterattack (eventually, it was my only surviving building.) That little spot of non-detection was such a relief. I kept microing to keep banshees alive and it was getting annoying. | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On July 30 2010 01:00 Sfydjklm wrote: i dunno i just pushed with marine-medic-marauder-medivac and 6 tanks through the top. I tried pushing through the middle the game before but it's harder cause u have reinforcements from the bottom flanking you to worry about. Was real easy tbh.><v Felt exactly like your standard multiplayer tvp push. same, just without medivacs. siege breakers are just ridiculous. | ||
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
On August 17 2010 18:32 LionsFist wrote: First base: Pump banshees non-stop, be proactive with them and clear the first 3 relics and the bottom expo by the time the second attack wave comes around. You'll have to pull back to help with the first attack. Obviously repair any weakened banshees (<- important) Expo to the bottom if you want, or just transfer buildings over when have to. Should be 4 attack waves overall. Second base (bottom right near second relic): Move here when you have to, keep pumping banshees. As soon as you land on your bottom part here, start clearing out the main protoss base. Float your factory up to the north so you can get advanced warning on when the protoss moves out to attack you. You'll again have to do picking attacks here and bounce back and forth between defending and attacking, but you should be able to clear them out without many troubles. Third base (Protoss old base): Build a second starport here with reactor and start pumping vikings from this one. Use your banshees to clear out the northish expo if you expanded earlier, and mine from both these at once, if not, don't bother. Takes too long to establish otherwise. Keep up the defense while you bring up your viking numbers (Don't go crazy, 8 or so should be enough, as long as you don't lose too many being silly). Keep pumping your banshees from your first starport. Should be at a very solid air army by now. When you feel comfortable (or feel able to snipe out the warp prisms in 1 hit), start moving into the south protoss base. Clear this out and move over for the final push. Forth base (Second old protoss base): Again here, start pumping more banshee's and vikings. Use your barracks to pump a small force of marauders if you're having trouble dodging storms, and use these to snipe them before you move in. Clear out the last relic and start moving into the main base, being sure to avoid the storms as best as possible. As said in other posts, here you can sit back and wait against the edge of the map for the fire to destroy part of the base if you want, or you can be a man and take out the base with force. If you have Science Vessels by now, you won't be reading here for help... oh i never thought of that... irradiate the hts that is smart ;D this mission took me forever omg | ||
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im a roc
United States745 Posts
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Azn_Christian
United States153 Posts
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Abdiel
52 Posts
Worked like a charm, took out every protoss building on the map. Okay, on the last base I was cutting it a little close, but with revive-able thors I was able to push through anyways. Those immortals were scary though :/. | ||
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Rakanishu2
United States475 Posts
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DHD
United States18 Posts
what i did was stick to bottom of map , use banshee and cloak to defend first 2 waves against ur base - use banshee to snipe all protos units near first two relics , with one marauder to collect relics and run away from the lone scout near 2nd relic. first base clearance - charge in with 6-8 banshee and viking if u have any yet. target pylon/prism and stalker first then mop up and move in SCV+structures * the mineral nodes at the 2nd relic site make a decent income site while you are clearing first protoss base * after you resettle in the empty protoss base , this is when you want to start really adding in viking. you can use 1 starport with tech reactor if u got it , if not use 2 starport. use banshee to snipe out the photons and stalker outside of your base at the weak mineral node patch , then clear away the few archons and sentries guarding 2nd protoss base. about this time you will getting hit with a wave of immortal and sentry, so send back banshee and mop them up. collect and mass at least 10 banshee and 6-8 viking before you go to clear out the 2nd protoss base. for the 2nd protoss base , viking makes this a cake walk. use viking superior range to bait out the scouts and snipe the prisms supplying the photons leaving your banshee free to rain destruction on the base. * at this time your mineral patches should be running out , so move command center to the patch previously guarded by the 2 photon and stalker outside your your current base * while your finishing clearing the 2nd protos base , an attack force should be nearing you from the 3rd and final protos base , including a couple scouts - a carrier , archons and a high templar. the vikings can kill the air units no problem , but the high templar is a pain so make sure to cloak banshee and snipe him first while u hit an run micro on the carrier and scouts to maximize viking air - air range and avoid archon-storms. afterwards fly in your rax - factory , and starport(s) to the emptied basealong with command center. this part is the trickiest in the mission i think , outside of the final protos base is another relic - gaurded by photons and two high templar each with 200/200 energy. the way i handled this was to take 3-4 of my viking and run them past the high templar repeatedly to get them to use up thier psi storm energy. after they each do storm twice , roll in your banshee and snipe pylon thenthe templar. with your base set up add in tech lab/tech reactor for factory-rax and your starport(s) viking banshee is still your best friend for the upcoming part but adding in additional meatshields helps. mass some marine-medic , a couple tanks , and a bucketload of vulture from factory. when u get a sizable force * example of mine : 4-6 vulture , 10 marine , 2 tank , 10 banshee , 10 viking etc * ready to attack final protos base. you can use this chance to fly in your buildings to the final protoss basebefore your push as a distraction to enemy archon and photon along with your SCV in your ground force as a meatshield. make sure to group your units , especially your vulture, along with viking and banshee , marine and tank. when your up the ramp to the final base , use viking to snipe the first prism supplying power to the closest photon - use cloaked banshee to attack archons and stalker - and vulture to spider mine the areas in front of the 3 protos gateways. position your marine+tank near the vault to begin seiging it while you micro viking and banshee on scouts-pylon-templar. any protos units warping and passing by the 3 gateways will be be hit with mines leaving your army free to seige the vault a long post i know but if it helps anyone stuck on this mission then awesome. my walkthrough may be weird but i found it was super easy and effective. | ||
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GreenTea1
United States31 Posts
u only need to expand once; to that spot that they point out for you. once there and once u have a decent force, push along the top and pass the toss base entirely. at most youll have to endure a few cannon fire, but once u reach the top right corner then move down and take out the few cannons there. if your banshees are cloaked u can just sit there and shoot down the temple. | ||
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JibJabberJab
Netherlands9 Posts
Also dont forget to get upgrades, just build the bay/armory far to the right, it wil have enough time to get at least 3 upgrades out before the fire reaches it. Also if you go bioball, watch out for high templar (either dodge the storms or snipe the templar with your banshees) ps. regenaritve bio-steel is the most imba upgrade in the campaign. | ||
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Qw4z1
Sweden55 Posts
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
Build about 5 banshees+5 wraiths, get a vessel/raven, load 5 SCVs in your CC, lift off, go to the bottom of the map, go to the far right of the map, have your banshee and wraiths escort them, at the bottom right, there will be a cannon or 2, + some defenses and an observer, focus fire wraiths on observer and banshees on cannons, cloak them all and cleat the rest up. Half the time a carrier will be there, kill it with wraiths. unload SCVS, repair CC. Bring CC to the VERY FAR right. Next, go get a sandwich and a soda, watch something on TV, and come back a half hour later. The fire will kill the temple before your CC. This is how i did it the first time. (well, the general idea, not the exact same thing.) | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
The only real problem should be busting the last base. Just attack from one side with your mmv, and the other side with your banshees. Either way, you can move away from the storms and use your flank to snipe the HTs. | ||
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ZeKk
Sweden320 Posts
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zazazoom
Sweden2 Posts
i simply got tech on fact and got a few tanks, marines from the barack and got the herculez. the zealot attacks on brutal comes from the top left so you can easily snipe them while theyre on the way with your initial four banshees, meanwhile i used these to get 2 of the easily accessable research points aswell. when the fire was on the way i uploaded 4 tanks, 8 marines and 3 scvs in the herc and moved straight up and then edged by the ledge towards the right. there are a few cannons which i just used banshees to deter. in the top right corner there is a ledge with a few cannons and scouts/phoenixes. just use your tanks to shoot down the cannons and marines to defend against the air units. if you move along the ledge you can shoot the artifact from the high ground.. same principle as with waiting for fire but only took me <10 minutes to complete | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
There's a bunch of upgrades that make this way easier. You don't to have nearly all of these but a few can make this a breeze. - Automated refinery + micro filtering + sci vessel. If you do a heavy banshee/viking army and skip MMM almost completely you can make a fair number of sci vessels for support. - If you make MMM, stick to just reactored marine/medic and mercs. - Rebuild your merc compound at least once! - If you have auto refinery, you only need like 10 SVCs. Make sure to use them to repair whenever you're moving between bases. | ||
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drakulita
United States1 Post
First of all start with taking out the protoss base to your north, it'll be cheaper than letting them build up and attack. Don't wait to build anything just attack with the 4 banshees, 4 marines and two marauders you start with. You should be doing that while you set all SCVs on gas, build them for minerals. Mule on available energy. Your forces should mostly come from mercs; mercs are retardedly cost effective, I'd only build banshees and medics, and just get as many mercs as you can before you loose the building to the fire. Get as much gas as you can out of the left refinery before you lift off, you should have mined out the minerals. Now from here I was able to push straight up through the middle base without much issue with lots of mercs and maybe about 10 banshees, it went quite a bit better than I expected, I was able to build another merc compound and get me another set of goliaths and tanks to finish the game somewhat normally (at the end after the push up to their base my army was really whittled down so I just kept to the right and focused on the temple). I honestly expected their middle base to prove itself quite a hurdle, so my back up plan was to reload at the point where I just destroyed the very first top left base, immediately clear and expand to lower right of the first protoss relic, just right of your base, sit on the choke with my army while I build my banshees, get mercs and generally build up and army. When it was time to move my main base because of the wave I was going to take my _ground_ army north past the other protoss relic and set down at the mineral patch there. Meanwhile I would prepare my _air_ army with my expansion to fly directly east of where they are past the middle base. This should enable you to get quite a bit of resources and mass quite a bit before you have to make a move, eventually you'd just abandon your expansion south, bring up north your air army defending it, take your whole ball and move directly east, you shouldn't have any trouble decimating everything on the way to the temple with the army you should've amassed by this point. | ||
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yoplate
United States332 Posts
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Impervious
Canada4198 Posts
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neilla
3 Posts
1. Final artifact. The problem here is psi storms (2 templars). I found out that you can land 6-8 vikings and take out the cannon without triggering a storm. You can then take out the templars with Banshees without trouble. 2. The Final Push. Stealth up the right side until you're in as close as you can without being seen. Drop 2 nukes in quick succession in the area of the artifact. This takes out their Templars, detection, and air and you can then pretty much bum-rush the place and finish. | ||
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Radipon
United States47 Posts
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Exsosus
Sweden1 Post
On July 29 2010 09:21 TrevorJK wrote: 1) Mass MMMM 2) Load everything into hercules/medivac 3) Lift buildings and hide towards bottom right (kind of by the relic) 4) Wait til the last base is almost completely destroyed by fire then clean up & kill the the final artifact This is a snap everyone. What TrevorJK wrote earlier, however let me add some more details. Simply build +1 extra baracks at the start and reactor add-on both of them while building SCVs continuously and mules. Pump marines and max 4 medics. Build a fusion core and build 1x hercules. Once you've pumped marines and 4x medics to the full capacity of the hercules (this should happen about 10 seconds before the fire reaches your base), lift off all capable base buildings. Board all medics and marines in hercules. Move to the bottom right of the map by creating waypoints that have a line at the very very bottom of your screen, no changing course. You will take minimal ground fire but should be fine. Now move just above the Photon Cannon platform with a grey statue micro-ing to avoid fire. Just load save if you take too much damage. Here there is a space where you will not be shot, about 5 meters above the grey statue platform. Wait until the fire is nearly at your ship and flying buildings on the far-right of the map. Sounds extreme, but its a snap. Just requires one thing: Patience. Just before the fire reaches the artifact structure, drop all your infantry at the base of it and double-stim while killing the two cannons and 1 archon you will encounter. Next, immediately focus the artifact tower whilst pulse stimming. Don't worry your four medivacs you were told to fit onboard the ship will heal you up. Grab the artifact. Mission successful. | ||
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meathole
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RadicalApathy
United States24 Posts
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RyLai
United States477 Posts
Like no joke, just imagine you're playing a ladder game, 1/1/1 on your opponent, and win. You could do it with pure Banshees, but if you're not comfortable with doing that (meaning you can't pull it off), add Tanks and Infantry to the mix, and just bust your way in. | ||
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Betalump
United States109 Posts
I think I made 4 banshees 1 dropship and got enough money for some repair, an engineering bay and a few turrets. Then you fly your buildings banshees and drop ship across the map (through the protoss main) letting your factory and barracks tank damage for your CC/drop ship (which is carrying your scvs). It will probably take a few tries to find the right path through the base. (I think there is a video on youtube that can help with this). The cc needs to survive (so you have a building) then behind the protoss main you build an engineering bay and turret push towards the artifact from the back up on the ridge behind it. (to rid observers and pheonix). Then you just kill the artifact with your banshees. Buildings can also be floated on the far right of the map so you don't necessarily have to have your CC survive just the drop-ship. | ||
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RubiksCube
Germany259 Posts
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poc
9 Posts
Its the fastest and easiest way to win this mission. | ||
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Nuf
Denmark145 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:31 poc wrote: Supernova nuke rush: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skt5t2nw2yA Its the fastest and easiest way to win this mission. That's so cheesy :D | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
That was really creative Lol | ||
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Conquerer67
United States605 Posts
On October 20 2011 02:31 poc wrote: Supernova nuke rush: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skt5t2nw2yA Its the fastest and easiest way to win this mission. ... Now I feel mad at myself for ever trying to get it legitimately. Then again, in my hard playthrough I bought tech reactors instead of drop pods. Well, good thing I happened to be at 23 toss research when I read this. | ||
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SEA KarMa
Australia452 Posts
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Callynn
Netherlands917 Posts
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
I made it through with this video by the wonderful Zai <3 It's probably the easiest mission ever. ^^ | ||
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FlyingZergling
81 Posts
The banshees are introduced in this level as a way of scouting an opponent with cloak and destroying small outposts. They're a good unit to attack colossi and immortals with if they storm your front. Focus on obtaining about 14 tanks at the start of the game. Use mercs if needed to boost your army to obtain the early relic. Your macro should be focusing on base defense and banshee squads, and your micro should be focused on taking the banshees and sniping everything that's not nailed to a photon cannon (and then sniping the photon cannon.) You want enough banshees that encountering 2-3 units that shoot up at a time isn't a problem- don't try to raid their base with 4 banshees like you do at the start. And don't be afraid to bring them back for a repair job every now and then! Especially if you have the dual-fusion SCVs, flying some banshees in for a 10 second repair is a much better deal than losing them and having to re-make them. It's worth rebuilding reactors and tech labs every time you move. The first move is a bit janky since you might end up in that corridor at first while trying to clear the first real protoss main base, but once you've built up that critical mass of siege tanks holding the protoss off should be no problem. You have bunkers unlocked, right? Well it doesn't even matter which upgrade you got (Shrike or Reinforcement)- make a few! Turns out when you have 14+ tanks raining death on you, stopping to take a swing at a bunker usually ends in disaster- immortal or not. You can salvage them when you move, and they can house Warpigs and Hammer Sec. Mercs (and be supported by dual-fusion welder SCVs.) Terrans are all about working together. If you're still having trouble, than spam saves. Save after every attack the Protoss make, save after every successful raid, save after every successful move, save after everything of note. If you die to an attack just as you raid, you can re-load with "warning" of the attack and arrange for defenses accordingly. Or you could get drop-pods and nuke them. But you skip out on the Protoss research that way (or do you? I bet you could drop-pod your way onto the research artifacts as well...) | ||
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Velexe
Australia71 Posts
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