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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
Anyone else having trouble with this? Any strats to share? Edit: beat it pretty easily on hard by just going back and getting the PF upgrade along with tank upgrades and banshee upgrades. Tanks work so well for the nydus worms on this map. Going to try it on brutal soon. | ||
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Smurfz
United States327 Posts
[edit] are you getting Siege Tanks? It seems like I do a lot worse on this mission when I don't keep up with a nice Siege Tank count. | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On July 28 2010 13:59 Smurfz wrote: I'm rofling because I'm in the exact same position using the exact same strategy except without the supply depots [edit] are you getting Siege Tanks? It seems like I do a lot worse on this mission when I don't keep up with a nice Siege Tank count. Yeah I get the mercenary siege tanks. And a couple others sometimes. But I'm thinking of not spending the money on the tech lab for the factory and just building another barracks. IM SO DESPERATE | ||
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
What I did was mass tanks (around 12 per side) behind the cliffs (not on high ground), with a craptons of bunkers i kept rebuilding at the chokes (my bunkers have the autoturret upgrade). Also made a group or 6-7 banshess patroling the map for nydus, and really, thats the most improtant thing, dont get the Z get too many nyduses :\ Also you have to makre sure you use the nova when you are about to get overrun, not when you start loosing stuff | ||
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
On July 28 2010 14:49 CynanMachae wrote: Ok I've just managed to finally finish it (on Brutal). What I did was mass tanks (around 12 per side) behind the cliffs (not on high ground), with a craptons of bunkers i kept rebuilding at the chokes (my bunkers have the autoturret upgrade). Also made a group or 6-7 banshess patroling the map for nydus, and really, thats the most improtant thing, dont get the Z get too many nyduses :\ Also you have to makre sure you use the nova when you are about to get overrun, not when you start loosing stuff This seems nice, and even if i haven't tried it on brutal, on hard i went Battlecruisers instead. Went perfectly, well, not the fastest to go for Nyduses, but they killed everything in the way. Lot's of Tanks, only like 6 on each side, but with flametrowers (flaming betty?) and turrets to assist the 3 bunkers. I was never even close to loose, i used the nova all the time, so no achievement for me... But is really banshee the right way to go? What about Kerrigan? Isn't she difficult with just Banshee and Tanks? | ||
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Deleted User 47542
1484 Posts
Buy the tank upgrades that make them do 75% less dmg to your own stuff, and wah-.lah easy win. Did this on brutal on my second try, failed the first time because I just had no clue what my objective was lmao. | ||
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
 I didn't have PF nore the 75% less damage >< Pf would have worked pretty wellAnd for me BC was jsut too slow at taking down the nyduses (and kerrigan just roflstomped them) | ||
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Deleted User 47542
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st4rfox
Poland15 Posts
I've gotten to 70% but it gets quite ridiculous at that point | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On July 28 2010 16:31 superbabosheki wrote: This is so easy to beat, especially if you have the upgrade that allows you to build with multiple SCVS. What I did was just open up with two more command centers just for the extra mules/scvs really fast. After that I went pure tank, planetary(two on the cliff w/ the artifact, and I ended up having 4 on each side so 10 total), with alot of SCVS. Buy the tank upgrades that make them do 75% less dmg to your own stuff, and wah-.lah easy win. Did this on brutal on my second try, failed the first time because I just had no clue what my objective was lmao. Is there any way to go back and get more credits? I never got planetary fortress or tank upgrades  My main problem is when Kerrigan comes, she absolutely wrecks all the tanks and one side gets totally opened up and invaded. | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
1) Build an additional barrack, factory, starport, eng. bay and armory for faster upgrades 2) build 2 additional bunkers at each choke point as well as a bunker on the high ground 3) Get some banshees out fast for killing nydus worms. I started with BC´s but they were too slow. 4) Spam siege tanks! mine were fully upgraded and I think I had 15 or so in total. Also get marines/marauders for the bunkers. 5) IMPORTANT. Have 2-4 scv´s at each choke point for fast repair on tanks and bunkers. Also have a few scv´s at the artifact where you rally your banshees. This worked pretty well for me. Only challenge was Kerrigan. | ||
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Dis(ease)
Germany19 Posts
On July 28 2010 21:22 st4rfox wrote: so has anyone done this with air enabled yet on brutal? I've gotten to 70% but it gets quite ridiculous at that pointI am stuck at 97% on hard, man this broodlords everywhere are melting my turrets . | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
Is there any way to go back and get more credits? I never got planetary fortress or tank upgrades You can go back and re-do just about every mission to get the bonus objectives - once you max out your protoss and zerg research you'll get money instead of points. I'd say the SCV upgrades, seige tank upgrades and planetary fortress are priorities for this mission, if you already missed the PF then make sure you have the bunker upgrades. If you're facing air then the viking upgrades are really good too. I beat it on hard with my 2nd attempt (after getting to 98.7% on my first attempt haha) and it was pretty easy once I worked out the strategy. I found that Kerrigan goes down pretty fast to a squad of stimmed marine/medic/marauders, I basically just had a squad of about 30 infantry in the centre of the base and would just use them to own her whenever she showed up, they were also really useful at dealing with anything that managed to get into the base. On the perimeter I had 2-3 planetary fortress each side with tanks behind and vikings patrolling above and a ton of missile turrets everywhere, I had SCVs on auto repair everywhere, I also put two PFs next to the artifact, this setup pretty much held off everything automatically except Kerrigan and the air boss. The infantry squad took care of kerrigan when she showed up and the boss went down pretty easy to all my vikings. | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On July 29 2010 00:08 Wargizmo wrote: You can go back and re-do just about every mission to get the bonus objectives - once you max out your protoss and zerg research you'll get money instead of points. I'd say the SCV upgrades, seige tank upgrades and planetary fortress are priorities for this mission, if you already missed the PF then make sure you have the bunker upgrades. If you're facing air then the viking upgrades are really good too. I beat it on hard with my 2nd attempt (after getting to 98.7% on my first attempt haha) and it was pretty easy once I worked out the strategy. I found that Kerrigan goes down pretty fast to a squad of stimmed marine/medic/marauders, I basically just had a squad of about 30 infantry in the centre of the base and would just use them to own her whenever she showed up, they were also really useful at dealing with anything that managed to get into the base. On the perimeter I had 2-3 planetary fortress each side with tanks behind and vikings patrolling above and a ton of missile turrets everywhere, I had SCVs on auto repair everywhere, I also put two PFs next to the artifact, this setup pretty much held off everything automatically except Kerrigan and the air boss. The infantry squad took care of kerrigan when she showed up and the boss went down pretty easy to all my vikings. Wait....there's an air boss? As if this mission weren't impossible enough! Haha, I guess it's because I don't have any tank/PF upgrades. Guess I'll go back and do the research points for money. | ||
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MasterKilljoy
United States1 Post
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bulge
161 Posts
brutal with mutas and broodlords is just retardedly crazy | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On July 29 2010 02:16 SONE wrote: Try to just get the merc tanks, and just put like 3 facs uptop with the artifact and wall in with tanks and some marines covering the whole thing. I only played it on normal, but I lasted pretty damn long before I even had to use the artifact. Get +3 weap and speed(if you went this way) and you should be ok. Going to do a Brutal playthrough so yeah I'll check back and see if this worked for you. Was working for a little bit, but kerrigan on the second time wrecked part of the wall and it flooded with lings. Going to try it again later but with some banshees in the mix taking out the nydus worms, and also calling down mules to help repair with SCVs at the top. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
I had like 6 SCVs on both sides just sitting there repairing at all times along with around 6-7 bunkers with like 2-3 rines in each bunker and some just empty. But I got rid of the air units on the level before so it's going to be different for those who didn't (sucks for you LOL) When Kerrigan comes, she would waste her time on the bunkers while my tanks blew her into oblivion. | ||
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Cerzi
United Kingdom26 Posts
Tons of bunkers with plenty of SCVs for repairs. The slow-debuff turret thingy (which seems to be amazingly useful at your chokes), with tanks behind. That takes care of the lings and hydra/roach attacks. Then I split goliaths between the two for a bit of mobile AA. Then pretty much my entire army after that was vikings. Got fucking loads, and had 3 seperate groups on seperate patrols. One patrolling around each choke (moving just in front of it to catch broodlords), and one patrolling around and behind the base to catch drops and air attacks from behind. Seemed to work pretty well. Also dropped a few goliaths in my mineral line which I'd use to take out any lings etc that got into the base (normally not many). Pretty much the most valuable meta-upgrade for this level imo is the structural repair (where buildings dont burn, and automatically repair up to 50%). Really helps keep your wall up against the slow wear-down of the zergling attacks. Oh, and make sure you're good with upgrading attack/armor of your units (air especially) 3/3 vikings is really, really useful. Also made a bunch of BCs, but found they got insta-killed by Kerrigan, and Vikings are much better at killing off the big air thing that comes. Best way to deal with Kerrigan is let her hit into your wall and let tanks destroy her. Attacking her with a bunch of BCs leads to losing at least 2-3, whereas when she attacked my wall all I'd ever have to do was rebuild a single bunker. After the first fail, the second attempt went really well and ended up getting the achievement for only using the nova thing once on hard. | ||
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Knutzi
Norway664 Posts
mass marines mass siege tanks mass bunker a few of the zerg slow towers and some of the flamethrower turrets set up alot of turrets around in your base for all the overlords and always try to have 5-6 scvs om each side of your defense idle with auto repair on, i had the train 2 scvs at the same time uppgrade tho, not sure how this would work without it. for offense i tried to have about 5-6 banshees too kill all the nydus worms around the map and also try too save the artifact blast thingy for whenever kerrigan comes | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
2) Mass Bunkers w/ units 3) Mass Vikings 4) Mass Banshees | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
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Owarida
United States333 Posts
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xenchris
Germany68 Posts
i just bunkered up and used marauders in the bunkers with tanks behind them. while doing that i used cloaked banshees for killing nydusworms and had to use a energywave on the overlord level. Concerning upgrades: i went 3 attack upgrades for infantry, air and vehicle. nothing else. The biggest problem were the kerriganwaves | ||
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TradgyAtHand
Canada99 Posts
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Fearce
Denmark48 Posts
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Dis(ease)
Germany19 Posts
On July 29 2010 00:30 MasterKilljoy wrote: i just finished the game on brutal. but anyways does anybody have an idea on how to egt the One Shot, Fifty kills. achievement on Belly of the Beast level. im always coming up short on how many kills i get its always around 30 or so. any tips would be helpful. my bnet is almightyironman@gmail.com Look at the screenshots  build turret pull stand in the flame shoot ! | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
I kept getting overrun whenever Kerrigan showed up and basically roflstomped one side of my wall. Even after I killed her, then my wall would be down and I would never have enough time to rebuild it before the next wave of Nydus troops came through. Here's a nifty trick that might help you, though. Assuming you have planetary fortresses researched, use them as your wall. BUT...since you're going to be swimming in minerals, build some orbital commands/command centers while your wall is still intact and flat them to each of the sides. When (not if, WHEN) one side falls, land your orbital command and turn it into a planetary fortress. Bam, instant wall. Make two factories to spam siege tanks from and put them behind your wall (and up on the high ground). Make sure to space them out so that Kerrigan can't instantly one shot ALL your tanks. Oh, and if you can remember, get the hero tanks. They are SUPER helpful. I also had a small 40-50 food MMMedic ball running around my base as well and would have htem help out whichever side was weaker (or whichever side Kerrigan was coming to). But the MMM ball is probably optional As long as you can keep your wall up and your tanks behind them, you should be allright. Once I figured out that I could basically pre-make my wall, the game got a ton easier. {edit: actually, you don't even have to have planetary fortress researched. You can probably just do this with orbital commands/command centers, as it's really more important that you have a wall than that your wall can shoot) | ||
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biarecare
United States76 Posts
Kill the merc rax, and mass siege tanks near the cliff, ignore nydus worms. after getting enough siege tanks mass marine and medics. when kerrigan comes activate the crystal, send your MNM's out and snipe her before she can touch your tanks in the final stage, place your MNM forces near the artifiact to snipe the nydus worms that spawn there and rebuild depots on the right hand side. | ||
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shadowryu
United States12 Posts
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
Get 25 research points with zerg and protoss so that any extra is given as credits. Then replay any mission from credits and you should have some cash waiting in laboratory. Replay another mission and you should have more cash waiting. I discovered it when replaying most missions for the hard achievement, and it worked just as well when I just did a 2 minute run through on the first mission, I got another 250k credits each time. For doing this on Hard and getting the achievement for using artifact once I used thors to stun her, plantetary fortresses and a few bunkers to block, lots of SCVs behind the PF, lots of siege tanks behind the SCVs, upgrade vehicle and air attack and use banshees to hunt nydus worms(remember cloak). | ||
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Elaeli
Germany62 Posts
The only thing you really have to do in this mission besides macroing is flying your banshees around and not letting them die. Even then, once you reach 200/200 you can simply build 2 additional starports (with tech-reactors) and replenish instantly. Disappointingly easy even on brutal if you know where to position your tanks. | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
I wish that going on the destroying nydus mission meant there were less ground forces, but it seems like its the same amount of ground and extra air bonus.. So my upgrades are stacked towards air making my tanks kinda suck, and wasting sooo much money on vikings and turrets means I only have about 6 tanks at each choke most of the time. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
1) wall off with PFs (bunkers work just fine as well) 2) mass siege tanks behind your wall 3) upgrade tanks as soon as possible optional: make some banshees to kill nydus worms around the map this mission becomes significantly easier if you have both tank researches it becomes even easier if you have the "slow all zerg units" building from the zerg research Air version: 1) I'd imagine similar to above 2) mass vikings if you have both viking researches it should be no problem I just finished the nydus version on brutal at the second try. It was working perfectly but I didn't know that kerrigan can cast storm, so i lost 20 banshees to that and got overrun... the second try went completely smooth. Mass tanks just solve all your problems. A few bunkers in front are a nice addition. I went for fast weapon upgrades on everything (vehicle weapons are a must, since i also had mass marines in my bunkers and some banshees i upgraded both fast, too) | ||
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McPwnage
Canada48 Posts
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
I haven't tried this yet but wouldn't spectres just absolutely destroy kerrigan? I mean they have a stun and a spell that does 200 damage to a single target (if you get the upgrade). Sounds like you'd only need a squad of about 10 of them to be able to completely take care of her. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
You might as well put your extra gas into siege tanks, but I don't think it particularly mattered. Mostly I felt like they just spent time dying to Kerrigan. Having a couple science vessels to repair your vikings and irrad Kerrigan isn't bad either. I spent the second half of the mission maxed on supply most of the time and I didn't bother to use the nova at all. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
1 of those on either side with some SCVs, Marauders, and Tanks behind it and you're good. Roving patrol of upgraded Banshees takes out any Nydus Worms you'll run into. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On hard: I just went back and did the anti-air mission to get the nydus all-in. SO MUCH EASIER! I got about 20 banshees at the start, roamed around killing nydus and used the artifact whenever it was fun to use it. There was only one time that I was getting overrun. At the end of the game I had both walls re-built with 8ish tanks on each one fully upgraded. Zero air upgrades of course, only about 5 banshees left. At 90% I stopped going out for nydus canals. The overlord drop still through me for a loop, but I used the artifact on them instead of bothering to go kill them the regular way  I kept the 2 battlecruisers safe in the middle for nydus worms on the ledge and for yamatoing kerrigan. Psi disruptors 3 at each wall. Only purchased marine, tank, and banshee mercs. I didn't have the tank friendly fire reduction either... That would make it even easier. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On August 02 2010 03:25 ghen wrote: What difficulty level crate? On hard, end of my first sentence. :p | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
o.O missed that the first time :o | ||
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KelLorien
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
?Btw I just cheated throught the last level after 10+ tries, comp was lagging like hell. Only level I cheated on lol. I didn't have the 15/15 tech upgrades which really sucked. | ||
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chung
Korea (South)43 Posts
What I did was tanks, M&M, vikings, and planetary fortresses. I placed all my battlecruisers right behind my mineral line. They protected my SCVs and supplies the entire game so I could focus on flying my vikings. I put 6 Planetary Fortresses. Two on each choke, two on top of the ramp right by the artifact. You should have about 5-10 SCVs idling around the chokepoints at any given time. With repair on autocast, of course. You should have a team of vikings that takes out brood lords immediately. This is by far the hardest part. I used around 10. I also used goliaths. Build a merc compound on top of the hill. Make sure they are all off cooldown near the end. Upgrade everything. Infantry, air, vehicles... you need a combination of all of them. I built 2 armories and 2 eng bays and just upgraded right from the beginning. Sacrifice a PF for every time Kerrigan shows up. I started building a command center with 3-5 SCVs every time she showed up, and replaced them immediately. I went science vessel... At 95% or so, you'll have to blow your load (the artifact). Immediately following that, gather all your troops on the top of the hill, including SCVs and those battlecruisers you saved up, and call down every single mercenary you can. Then just hold your ground. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On July 29 2010 00:28 Deadlyhazard wrote: Wait....there's an air boss? As if this mission weren't impossible enough! Haha, I guess it's because I don't have any tank/PF upgrades. Guess I'll go back and do the research points for money. It dies really fast to bio ball/viking; you just lose a lot of stuff if you try fighting it with everything else. Pretty much need to bomb when you engage. | ||
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jehutyanubis
2 Posts
P.S rebuild the bunkers after each QB zergs to keep up the defense. good luck | ||
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Sentient
United States437 Posts
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
On August 01 2010 09:35 Lobo2me wrote: Found a bug that allowed me to get as many credits as I wanted, which helped a lot since I had everything fully upgraded. Get 25 research points with zerg and protoss so that any extra is given as credits. Then replay any mission from credits and you should have some cash waiting in laboratory. Replay another mission and you should have more cash waiting. I discovered it when replaying most missions for the hard achievement, and it worked just as well when I just did a 2 minute run through on the first mission, I got another 250k credits each time. For doing this on Hard and getting the achievement for using artifact once I used thors to stun her, plantetary fortresses and a few bunkers to block, lots of SCVs behind the PF, lots of siege tanks behind the SCVs, upgrade vehicle and air attack and use banshees to hunt nydus worms(remember cloak). Was this bug fixed in the first patch? Because I have tried this and get neither minerals or research for replaying a level. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On August 02 2010 13:31 DeCoup wrote: Was this bug fixed in the first patch? Because I have tried this and get neither minerals or research for replaying a level. You need to max out on research and get credits for it first. Then every time you redo a mission (which gives research?) you will get all the credits for all the total research past 25 you've done. Working for me, at any rate. | ||
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peteralexia
Australia1 Post
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
It's definitely very hard, but I can give a few suggestions: -Upgrade turrets and vikings in armory before the game starts. -At the start of the game, upgrade with 2 armories and 1 engineering. You need all the attack upgrades, after that upgrade only ground bio armor. -Keep all the 3 bcs and buy merc bc, they will be useful against leviathan. Never make them engage Kerrigan. -Always have 4 vikings on the back of your cc with 3 turrets since the first air attack on the back comes. -Keep building scvs and make a TON of turrets in the relic area. Cover the whole area in turrets and place tanks on both sides of it. -When kerrigan comes the best army to beat her is marines/medics. Dodge her storms of course. -You need to have at least 12 vikings and 4 bcs when Leviathan comes, engage it with bcs and use their shield ability + yamato to minimize the losses. Don't make it start spitting mutalisks at all, just run to it when you can and kill it quickly. -When Leviathan is dead stop producing vikings (unless for some weird reason you dont have at least 12 alive) and place at least 4 vikings on each attacking side of the area to defend easily from Broodlords. Keep building turrets to counter mutalisks. -Don't forget to keep building tanks and bunkers on the front. They just serve the purpose of damage soaking so your tanks are defended. -Always keep SCVs in the relic area so they will always be ready to build new turrets and autorepair damaged ones. Turrets are too important. I hope this will help someone. It was very hard for me, the hardest mission by far, but satisfying when you clear it ![[image loading]](http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3817/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif ) | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
If you mind control a zerg unit it won't count to your supply pool. Those Mind control towers also only cost something around 150/100 which means you can mass spam them. I got the achievement on hard after the second try. When I realised I should just spam the Mind Control tower and get me an army of 100 mutas and 10 broodlords with simple clicking. 3 bunkers, 5 tanks and a small MMM ball in between on each side. Every mineral you make after this you put into Mind control towers and Missile towers in the "flyers version". Easy peasy. Funny, The Levitian keeps sending Mutalisk towards you at the same speed 6 Mindcontrol towers regenerate mana. My army was impressive. Use Brood Lords to fight with Kerrigan. She doesnt target the Broodlords but the little zerglings they send, so your tanks can blast away on her. Occassionnaly she picks a takn up and instant kill it but w/e. You have gold in masses. PS: for the achievement, use the artifact when the meter is on 96% charged. | ||
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-BW-Map_God
United States28 Posts
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shalafiend
United States62 Posts
for all in air- you mass mind control towers. build them in front of turrets. Due to the AI, the mutas/broodlords will target the turrets first. With mind control towers, you can mindcontrol every zerg air unit. When the leviathan comes, you should have at least 5 mind control towers in front of 10 missle turrets surrounding the artifact. If you don't have a decent mind controlled airforce (20 mutas at the least), then you can mind control some as the leviathan sends it at you. With good mindcontrol, you don't even need to worry about the ground waves- 3-4 broodlords on each side =gg. Initially- build 2 additional bunkers on each side, and get 5 tanks on each side as well. As it progresses, and you're rich, kill off scvs for supply/build planetary fortresses if you're in danger of getting run over by ground; which you shouldn't be if you mind controled enough broodlords. Fun strat- but if you want to do it with pure terran units- upgraded turrets, upgraded vikings, and planetary fortresses should let you survive this on brutal. all in- ground 3 bunkers on each side, and mass at least 10 tanks on each side. Have a group of at least 4 banshees to snipe nydus worms. One full hercules (the giant dropship) of marines can take down kerrigan easy. If you like defense games- skill the banshees entirely- and mass tanks, and have fun watching them rape. Don't rebuild your bunkers when they die, and spend supply on more tanks. Always remember upgrades Get turrets around mineral line, and patrolling marines to get rid of random overlords/drops Have fun Loads of youtube videos up, if you need help | ||
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Rebornx3
Canada200 Posts
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TaG]SiG
United Kingdom53 Posts
combination of valks, siege tanks, marines, various turrets and alot of apm thought of trying nukes but never got round to it, siege tank positioning is cruicial and split up valks into 4/5 each side and rest in middle. right at the end save pulse as long as possible then sacrifice valks to take dmg. right before kerrigan comes you must unsiege your tanks on your strong side and move it to your weak one, this will cause kerrigan to come to the side you want, once shes appeared you can simply move them back | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
A lot of siege tanks. Siege Breakers. ...and Psi Disruptors. Near the end, I had to block off the Artifact with Supply Depots, it actually worked very well. | ||
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SiDX
New Zealand1975 Posts
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Mr_Zain
Australia4 Posts
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humaidan
Bahrain10 Posts
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
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Metalwing
Turkey1038 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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Latham
9562 Posts
with nyduses: rax walls, around ~10 sieges per side + mass rines from wall for kerri to have something to play with when she comes. Did it without any mercs. Forget about killing nyduses, tanks will just rape everything except kerri anyway. Psi disruptor good but not necessary. Keep a decent amount of scvs to REPAIR the rax walls too. Did it like this on brutal. with air: same wall, same marines 5-7 tanks per side + mass mind control towers. ~5 at the back of your base + MAX around artifact. I managed around 35 total. Take every muta + broodlords you can. If you survive 1st Kerri attack you win, because after that you'll have such large muta/broodlord swarms she'll die almost instantly to muta/tank. A few scvs to reapir walls will be necessary. Did it like this on hard. general notes: Keep an eye on your walls. If the raxes fall (they will at some point) make sure to rebuild them as quickly as possible. They are vital to your survival. Keep an eye on Kerri, around the 3rd time, she'll start to use psi matrix which rips marines + mutas to shreds. Dodge dodge dodge. Make sure Kerri can't get to your expensive units like tanks, BCs, Thors, ghosts what-have-you... to 1-shot them lifting them up. That's what your marine fodder and mutas are there for. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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chokke
Norway228 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15345 Posts
1. a-move everything that isn't a tank, SCV or marine into the Zerg. You don't need those stupid BCs using up supply. 2. sent your first 2 tanks on top of the cliff and siege them at the very edge towards your base. 3. build psi disruptors on every side of your base. Build them on your side of the cliff, just below the ramps. 3 on each side is enough. 4. Get tech reactor on rax and fact. Get attack upgrades. 5. Nonstop build tanks and marines. Siege tanks along the cliff in a kind of upside down U-shape (kill that stupid merc thing). Keep marines well outside the action. Not a single Zerg unit will get through the tank fire. It's hilarious. Once Kerrigan is halfway through the map use the artifact and move out with your marines, stim, and kill her. Move back to heal and rebuild the few marines you lose. Repeat. You will need to rebuild the supply that are on the left side. There isn't really anything to do but siege tanks and build supply. If you are bored build turrets to kill the overlords. 10600 frags kekeke. | ||
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Amadi
Finland139 Posts
Use the relic whenever Kerrigan comes. | ||
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Vanimar
220 Posts
1. Wall off using Planetary Fortresses (like 3-5 per side) 2. Place a ton of SCVs behind 3. Behind that just MASSSSS Tanks. 4. Build a group of Banshees with cloak and kill the nydus worms 5. ? 6. Profit P.S. Of Course you get rid of Air in the previous mission | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
2.Mass Banshees off 2-3 Starports with TRs 3.Mass MM (Marine medic) off 2 Rax 4. ??? 5. Profit! | ||
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GreenTea1
United States31 Posts
i did the nydus worm all-in on hard (+achievement) and air on brutal (took way too long) the great thing is, even if you dont get the tech reactor upgrade, u can just pump marines and medics from barracks with reactor (make around 4-6) (provided, of course, that you got all of the marine and medic upgrades at the armory console). also take advantage of your forces that you get in the beginning and pump scvs to saturation. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
Bunkers are sissy. Wall in with Orbital commands, enjoy infinite income and less supply investment in scvs. Build repair scvs right out of the walls to replace losses. Giggle at the sight of 30 mules falling on top of Kerrigan. PF walls are a nice idea but they cost gas to repair and thus take away from your tank count. Then make a squad of banshees (8-10) and infinite tanks with +3 weapons. Psi/Hivemind Emulators if you have 'em. | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On September 23 2010 13:41 Dfgj wrote: (vs Ground) Bunkers are sissy. Wall in with Orbital commands, enjoy infinite income and less supply investment in scvs. Build repair scvs right out of the walls to replace losses. Giggle at the sight of 30 mules falling on top of Kerrigan. PF walls are a nice idea but they cost gas to repair and thus take away from your tank count. Then make a squad of banshees (8-10) and infinite tanks with +3 weapons. Psi/Hivemind Emulators if you have 'em. You, sir, are awesome. Just imagining dropping a bunch of MULEs on kerrigan makes me crack up. | ||
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Rilo
10 Posts
Question: Can you EMP Kerrigan? Does that stop her from using the insta-kill and psionic storm rip-off? | ||
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jolenar
United States23 Posts
I don't have enough credits for siege tank upgrades... need 25000 more for maelstrom rounds; however I went back to do a mission and collect research that I missed, but the game wouldn't let me sell that research for credit? Is there any way to get credit then? | ||
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ghettoeddo
United States3 Posts
i just beat this level on brutal today after several tries, so i figured it'll work on hard. this is assuming you got hive mind emulator though--i've actually never tried to use the psi disrupter. if you removed air (so nydus worms pop out): -critical mass of tanks on both sides below the artifact. -build a few extra rax w/ reactors and pump marines marines marines marines marines--kerrigan will destroy your tanks so fast unless she eats the marines first. -with crit mass of tanks though, she won't last very long -at the very start, i even pulled the starting units and salvaged the bunkers and built new ones to create choke points. -~10 banshees is really all you need actually (on hard anyway). i imagine much more will be needed on brutal -if you have hive mind emulator, use it on the ultras if you destroyed ground: -same thing--pull units back/wall off w/ bunkers and rax w/ reactors -throw down hive mind emulators all over the place. i had about 10 on the left side, 5 on the right, 5 at the bottom of your base and around 5 near the artifact itself. -mind control every muta and broodlord you can. broodlords take priority as they're the key to distracting kerrigan. -you will constantly be repairing/building/defending etc. save often and keep at it. use the artifact's nova (if you're not going for the achievement) if you're overwhelmed. by the last wave, i had 40+ mutas and 20 broodlords. my artifact didn't even lose 100hp although my main CC was razed in the process, but who cares? hahaand now i have beaten the campaign on brutal :D | ||
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nullflow
Norway4 Posts
On July 29 2010 06:04 Dis(ease) wrote: Look at the screenshots build turret pull stand in the flame shoot ! This guide worked for me. First try | ||
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scottycopter
United States46 Posts
-Keep 5-6 SCVs at both entrances set on auto-repair. -Line up as many siege tanks as you can produce behind the PFs. -Mass Banshees to take care of Nydus Worms. -Throw in some Battlecruisers to Yamato Kerrigan. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
Mass siege tank on both sides, on low ground behind the cliff for main damage. Get both siege tank upgrades and mercenary siege tanks. A group of banshees to take down nydus networks. That's about all needed. | ||
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undyinglight
United States611 Posts
On July 28 2010 23:11 Deadlyhazard wrote: Is there any way to go back and get more credits? I never got planetary fortress or tank upgrades My main problem is when Kerrigan comes, she absolutely wrecks all the tanks and one side gets totally opened up and invaded. You have to do as many of the other missions as you can before you leave for Char, the game tells you this before you leave. | ||
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bobucles
410 Posts
Upgraded tanks are so good for this mission. The +40 damage is key for smashing down ultralisks, and the splash upgrade keeps friendly fire to a minimum. Place them on the low ground next to the platform for the best results. Then sit back and watch the fireworks. Use banshees? Nope. Just build more tanks. Use marines or SCVs to distract Kerrigan. Then build more tanks. The PSI disruptor is okay. Set a few up, they can't really hurt. There aren't really any ground units worth mind controlling, as they'll get wrecked by your tanks anyway. Perdition turrets are okay, they can at least work as a melee barrier for your tanks. I tried a few, they didn't really help. If you feel like a basterd (and I'm sure you do), plant a few planetary fortresses on the platform. Cover their back with SCVs(or get damage control upgrade). They cost ZERO pop cap, are amazingly cheap for their power, and a little more splash damage never hurt. | ||
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FrozenFlare
Australia103 Posts
1. Make HEAPS of Mind Control Towers 2. Mind control ALL Brood Lords and Mutalisks 3. ??? 4. Profit | ||
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Lash_
Netherlands8 Posts
1. wall-off with bunkers at each choke ( Planetary fortress if you researched that.. which I didn't) 2. Place 2 Psi disruptors behind the bunkers at each choke. 3. Use about 4 scv's at each choke to repair bunkers/disruptors. 3. place siege tanks at each choke until about 160 supply. Siege breakers really help (170 dmg with level 3 dmg  ). 2 factories should be enough to produce them, when you researched tech reactor. Otherwise you might build 3 or 4.4. Use the rest of your supply for a 'Kerrigan-Strike force'. Depending on the composition you might want to make an extra barracks or starport. 5. Build two armories and start upgrading right away. Dealing with the Zerg The tanks plus bunkers plus your psi disruptors should be able to do this job easily. The bunkers prevent the zerg from attacking your tanks and disruptors. The Psi disruptors prevent the zerg from even attacking your bunkers most of the time. The scv's are there to repair the bunkers just in case. The Nydus worms that pop up in your base will automatically get slaughtered by your tanks. At one instance some overlords will come in to base to drop some zerglings. You may want to use your strike force (which I'll explain later) to kill those.. shouldn't be a problem. Dealing with Kerrigan For Kerrigan, you will need to make a seperate strike force, which purpose is to distract her from the tanks. The purpose is NOT to deal with Kerrigan all by it self. The tanks still deal the damage, but the strike force need to take the hits, as well as the abilities from Kerrigan. There are a few options for your strike force. I myself used a lot of banshees, friends of mine used an mmm ball which was placed on the high ground at the artifact. Both work well. Make sure that when you confront kerrigan it is in range of the tanks. Use your artifact only just before Kerrigan arrives at your base, so that you don't have to deal with other zerg units while dealing with her. Further it is handy to save your game just before Kerrigan arrives, just in case she decides to aoe your tanks anyway. If you follow this strategy precisely it should be pretty easy to complete it on brutal. | ||
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