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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25332 Posts
August 29 2024 21:52 GMT
#101
On August 30 2024 06:37 KobraKay wrote:
Wait no comments on the CL draw? Is everyone on vacation? :D

Harder to get the difficulty of ones path just at the glance but some good games are in order

I don’t think the format changes are exactly enthusing people. But even with the previous format I don’t think that many fans pay that much attention until CL time is closer approaching anyway
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25332 Posts
August 29 2024 21:55 GMT
#102
On August 29 2024 19:59 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2024 15:30 WombaT wrote:
On August 29 2024 15:16 KobraKay wrote:
For the low price i do believe its a good gamble to take as the potential upside is there.

Im just not as excited for him as i used to be.

It’s crazy to think at one point Italy had 3 creative forward type players as Baggio, Del Piero and Totti all having a big career overlap, where Chiesa might be the best of the bunch now even with him not quite recovering his best form.

There is some hope with 2 of those two having great careers even post big ACL injuries .

Also crazy to think how good Baggio, ADP and Ronaldo could have been without them. They were still obviously great players, but they were never quite the same.

It’s 10 million, which these days is pocket change. So it’s not a massive gamble. I gotta say a lot of business done this summer is pretty insane in terms of some of the fees. Especially the horse-trading the likes of Chelsea, Villa, Everton were doing right at the start of the window which totally wasn’t dodgy or intended to manipulate the books…

No wonder very few clubs turn much of a profit if every time they pull in more income, the transfer market just inflates!


Solanke's fee made me explode my head

At least Solanke had a good season last time out, but it’s still a ridiculous fee.

But you’re having youth prospects who haven’t played even a handful of games going for 30/40 million plus as well which is even more mental to me
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 30 2024 04:40 GMT
#103
I don't get the cl draw, I thought it was going to be Swiss system? Where you play someone with the same record as you all the way through?
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1931 Posts
August 30 2024 05:11 GMT
#104
On August 30 2024 13:40 DropBear wrote:
I don't get the cl draw, I thought it was going to be Swiss system? Where you play someone with the same record as you all the way through?

I don't know what's the intent on the current one, but a regular Swiss system sounds pretty stressful from logistics viewpoint. You'd be dealing with constantly changing travel targets half a season at least.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
August 30 2024 06:02 GMT
#105
On August 30 2024 13:40 DropBear wrote:
I don't get the cl draw, I thought it was going to be Swiss system? Where you play someone with the same record as you all the way through?


No no, its a league system, everyone plays the same number of games against different teams, but the opponnents dont change, they are drawn at the start.

Every team plays 2 teams from each of the 4 pots for 8 games total, 4 home, 4 away.

Top 8 teams are directly through, from 9 to 24 (?) Go to a playoff to find the other 8 and then its regular bracket style with home and away games against the opponent for a given round.

Everyone knows their schedule already and that will not change regardless if one wins or loses their matches

There are some nastier paths and based on several seasons of FM experience, your pot1 luck will go a long way to set how easy or hard your run will be.

CJ Fighting! (--.--)
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
August 30 2024 06:28 GMT
#106
Having played through it a few times in FM, I started to really like this new system.
Initially, it felt confusing, but it became exciting and interesting once the understanding and the implications were clear.

One may only complain that for bubble teams, the scenarios of the last playday can be extremely complex. There can easily be scenarios, where your elimination/direct advance depends not only on your game but also 6 other games... The funny if-then-else trees on websites will be great to watch :D
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
August 30 2024 11:59 GMT
#107
PSG and Liverpool stand out as having unlucky draws.

Not like any top teams are going to be eliminated, but top 8 seems like a decent advantage. I'm pretty excited for this system tbh.

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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
August 30 2024 16:19 GMT
#108
On August 30 2024 20:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
PSG and Liverpool stand out as having unlucky draws.

Not like any top teams are going to be eliminated, but top 8 seems like a decent advantage. I'm pretty excited for this system tbh.


Really? I feel like our draw is fine overall. We have some tricky games, but outside of RMA and Leverkusen, both of which are at home, I don't think we should be losing the other games. Draws at worst. We drew the easiest team in Pot 1, and AC Milan are whatever to me in Pot 2. We did get some of the trickier opponents like PSV and Girona in the lower pots, but again, we should be beating these teams, so I'm not too upset over the draw. We should advance in the top 8 if I had to guess regardless unless we massively fuck things up.

RMA at Anfield is going to be a banger of the game, but we can only hope the game actually matters. If it's our last game in GW8 of this stage, both teams might already be in the top8 at that point and we play heavily rotated sides.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-31 13:04:10
August 31 2024 13:01 GMT
#109
On August 31 2024 01:19 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2024 20:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
PSG and Liverpool stand out as having unlucky draws.

Not like any top teams are going to be eliminated, but top 8 seems like a decent advantage. I'm pretty excited for this system tbh.


Really? I feel like our draw is fine overall. We have some tricky games, but outside of RMA and Leverkusen, both of which are at home, I don't think we should be losing the other games. Draws at worst. We drew the easiest team in Pot 1, and AC Milan are whatever to me in Pot 2. We did get some of the trickier opponents like PSV and Girona in the lower pots, but again, we should be beating these teams, so I'm not too upset over the draw. We should advance in the top 8 if I had to guess regardless unless we massively fuck things up.

RMA at Anfield is going to be a banger of the game, but we can only hope the game actually matters. If it's our last game in GW8 of this stage, both teams might already be in the top8 at that point and we play heavily rotated sides.


Again based only on the several FM simulations which are worth what they are, rarely do we see several teams to reach the last match day with top8 already secured.

I would say chances of that happening are low, but you can quote me in a few months if it indeed does happen 😁

(Caveat to the above is that i believe top teams will perform better in real life than in simulations so i would expect 4 to 5 to have the top8 locked by the MD7 end).
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
August 31 2024 18:58 GMT
#110
Haaland with 7 goals after the first 3 matches. With the role he has now, without striker competition, having been rested all summer with no international tournaments, I think he might really set an unbreakable record if he avoids injury.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
August 31 2024 20:57 GMT
#111
Well the lack of striker competition might not be good whenever he needs a rest.

Arsenal losing points already and odegaard is killing me in fantasy so far this season.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
September 01 2024 07:04 GMT
#112
rice getting sent off for being kicked is peak refereeing
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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-01 13:47:56
September 01 2024 13:47 GMT
#113
On September 01 2024 16:04 GTR wrote:
rice getting sent off for being kicked is peak refereeing


What are you even talking about? He clearly kicked the ball away, which is always a yellow.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
September 01 2024 15:43 GMT
#114
lol casemiro single-handedly losing united this game
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
September 01 2024 21:06 GMT
#115
I mean, Casemiro has been shit for ages, why did man utd number 2? (if Yoro was number 1 target) target take until transfer deadline day to get over the line, when that position is clearly needed, so silly and deservedly paid the price for it today.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8649 Posts
September 02 2024 00:34 GMT
#116
because we apparently dont have money and needed sales to go through first. seems it was mctominay and sanchos deals that pushed it over the line.

anyway i honestly dont have high hopes for us this season. ten hag has shown that he wont budge from his tactics no matter how shit the results are, and i dont think ugarte is at the level of genius that ten hag wants from his single pivots. 3 games in and were already looking like last season
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1055 Posts
September 02 2024 10:27 GMT
#117
Selling McTominay, who has been with the club since he was a child and shows genuine passion every time he steps onto the field, whilst keeping Casemiro...

Clown behaviour.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25332 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-02 10:54:03
September 02 2024 10:51 GMT
#118
On September 02 2024 19:27 MJG wrote:
Selling McTominay, who has been with the club since he was a child and shows genuine passion every time he steps onto the field, whilst keeping Casemiro...

Clown behaviour.

Well you have to convince someone to take Casemiro off your hands

As a Serie A man, and Scottish enough to have a da called Angus, I’m quite excited to see both McGod and Billy Gilmour popping over to Napoli as a silver lining!

Seeing some of the fees going around this summer, hey I think United should have kept him for the reasons you outline, useful squad player. But the price they let him go for? :S
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
September 02 2024 13:15 GMT
#119
McTominay loves Manchester United, he was fine being a player off the bench
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
September 02 2024 21:04 GMT
#120
On September 02 2024 09:34 evilfatsh1t wrote:
because we apparently dont have money and needed sales to go through first. seems it was mctominay and sanchos deals that pushed it over the line.

anyway i honestly dont have high hopes for us this season. ten hag has shown that he wont budge from his tactics no matter how shit the results are, and i dont think ugarte is at the level of genius that ten hag wants from his single pivots. 3 games in and were already looking like last season

Madness that, your fkn man utd, the biggest club not called real madrid in world football!! How cant you afford that, plus you also bought in de ligt before hand too though, surely was more needed to buy ugarte first.

Oh well, ten haag has until november to save his job imo.
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