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sharkie
Austria18408 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28669 Posts
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GTR
51454 Posts
also halaand's shithousery throwing the ball at gabriel's head lmao | ||
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sharkie
Austria18408 Posts
On September 23 2024 06:36 Liquid`Drone wrote: being down a player and up a goal vs city I really can't blame anyone for parking the bus. Was what, a fraction of a minute away from giving them a win, too? its not just vs city arsenal is parking the bus and wasting time on  | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1059 Posts
On September 23 2024 06:31 sharkie wrote: So sad that Arteta is going the Mourinho road yeah Winning things is a terrible route for a manager to go down. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25353 Posts
On September 23 2024 15:26 sharkie wrote: its not just vs city arsenal is parking the bus and wasting time on They’re hardly parking the bus with regularity. Not even in big clashes, it’s really something they reserve for Man City and almost them alone. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8655 Posts
in a contest of 2 teams both trying to play possession based football, you will end up with 1 team that is failing at their job 100% of the time. theres nothing to be ashamed about knowing that your opponent is better at keeping the ball than you and changing your tactics accordingly. my rant is also aimed at some of the lesser teams in various leagues all trying the same "build up play from the back" philosophy that has taken over football thanks to pep. it doesnt work that well if you arent the better team, so why obsess over it when you can play a much more simple game probably to better success? | ||
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sharkie
Austria18408 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
On September 22 2024 04:11 gTank wrote: He got three pens against some low tier team in cl and the opponents in the Bundesliga are subpar too. Totally legit that a world class premier league striker is the top scorer. Not to take away from him but I doubt he would do that at Spurs in the PL. Well, to be fair, Spurs are 10 times worse than Bayern. Bayern gives him an insane amount of sitters + the penalties. Point beeing: Were Kane at City instead of Haaland, he would do the same in PL as well. | ||
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gTank
Austria2564 Posts
On September 23 2024 16:11 Harris1st wrote: Well, to be fair, Spurs are 10 times worse than Bayern. Bayern gives him an insane amount of sitters + the penalties. Point beeing: Were Kane at City instead of Haaland, he would do the same in PL as well. 100% agreed. Sorry if this hurt some Spurs fan here | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25353 Posts
On September 23 2024 15:52 evilfatsh1t wrote: i dont get what the obsession is with having to play possession football in every single match. its one thing to complain if your team is playing boring football the entire season, but if they change up their tactics once in a while in order to win, then whats the problem? in a contest of 2 teams both trying to play possession based football, you will end up with 1 team that is failing at their job 100% of the time. theres nothing to be ashamed about knowing that your opponent is better at keeping the ball than you and changing your tactics accordingly. my rant is also aimed at some of the lesser teams in various leagues all trying the same "build up play from the back" philosophy that has taken over football thanks to pep. it doesnt work that well if you arent the better team, so why obsess over it when you can play a much more simple game probably to better success? Clashes of styles make things fun. I remember when Klopp’s first really great Liverpool side, probably the most intense version of ‘heavy metal football’ blew Man City away in the CL, that was quite refreshing. I didn’t/dont hate that style of football either, and it was pretty thrilling (or at least ‘Jesus Barcelona are good’ admiration) when it first hit its modern form, but it had started to permeate everywhere seemingly. There’s beauty in defence also. I like Jose Mourinho much less than I should given he delivered Inter a treble, but holding on with 10 men versus Pep’s Barca was a masterclass, and a real edge of the seat watch. I believe he actually delivered a lecture/talk discussing how he set up tactically, pretty interesting. I don’t like Atletico but they’re fun pantomime villains at least. At the other end of the scale you’ve the likeable, all-action to the point of borderline suicide Atalanta to enjoy Etc etc I agree somewhat with the rest of what you’re saying, there’s a lot of really good, interesting coaches, especially in England these days. That they’re struggling at times is really the talent gap, if that was a bit more equitable we’d see some really flourish and do something. There’s something to be said for pragmatism, absolutely, but there’s a reason many fans of traditional yo-yo clubs actively prefer when they’re in the Championship and can play a bit. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25353 Posts
On September 23 2024 16:11 Harris1st wrote: Well, to be fair, Spurs are 10 times worse than Bayern. Bayern gives him an insane amount of sitters + the penalties. Point beeing: Were Kane at City instead of Haaland, he would do the same in PL as well. I still think City would be a better team with Kane rather than Haaland given how they both play. Haaland’s obviously phenomenal and he does give them a different, more direct route, which is a pretty potent weapon as we’ve seen. You can’t really get much more lethal but I would have loved to have seen Haaland playing for a side like Liverpool at their recent best. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9650 Posts
On September 23 2024 15:57 sharkie wrote: There is a biiig wide area between parking the bus + time wasting and wanting to have all the posession Imagine watching your team do that every game for 2 years. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18408 Posts
On September 23 2024 17:03 Jockmcplop wrote: Imagine watching your team do that every game for 2 years. I have so much massive respect for fans of "weaker" clubs. I could never ever survive the emotions of that | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9650 Posts
On September 23 2024 17:05 sharkie wrote: I have so much massive respect for fans of "weaker" clubs. I could never ever survive the emotions of that <3 The last 2 seasons have been brutal doing whatever we have to to survive, learning to love the dark side of the game for the points it gets us. Yeesh. Hopefully we can edge towards being a midtable side this season. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25353 Posts
On September 23 2024 17:05 sharkie wrote: I have so much massive respect for fans of "weaker" clubs. I could never ever survive the emotions of that What emotions, crushing monotony? Well, more for mid-table teams that never push on. Never have a cup run. Rarely are even threatened with relegation. That’s surely got to be the worst? At least dropping down a division and being a top dog again, or being engaged in a nail biting survival battle you come through is exciting | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9650 Posts
On September 23 2024 17:11 WombaT wrote: What emotions, crushing monotony? Well, more for mid-table teams that never push on. Never have a cup run. Rarely are even threatened with relegation. That’s surely got to be the worst? Worst? Its the dream! | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25353 Posts
Surely the dream is Brian Clough to return? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9650 Posts
On September 23 2024 19:01 WombaT wrote: Surely the dream is Brian Clough to return? Impossible in today's game. Clough took a team of division 2 nobodies and essentially won everything with them + a few players, with the power of pure management and tactical ability. It would take years and the resources of a large oil bearing nation to do that these days, and the fans would still complain. I just dream of the media forgetting we exist, the Premier League not deducting us points, and to be able to play some games without the crippling fear of relegation every weekend. Sure midtable mediocrity hardly seems like a massive ambition, but if teams like Brighton and Brentford (Villa too) can push for European places with what are essentially midtable teams, then I'm happy with that. No point dreaming of competing with the likes of City and Arsenal, when our income is never likely to be anywhere near what those teams can generate. The best a team can do these days is hope for an incredible manager like Unai Emery signing on for them and snatching a Champion's League spot, but even that can do more harm than good in the long run. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25353 Posts
On September 23 2024 19:16 Jockmcplop wrote: Impossible in today's game. Clough took a team of division 2 nobodies and essentially won everything with them + a few players, with the power of pure management and tactical ability. It would take years and the resources of a large oil bearing nation to do that these days, and the fans would still complain. I just dream of the media forgetting we exist, the Premier League not deducting us points, and to be able to play some games without the crippling fear of relegation every weekend. Sure midtable mediocrity hardly seems like a massive ambition, but if teams like Brighton and Brentford (Villa too) can push for European places with what are essentially midtable teams, then I'm happy with that. No point dreaming of competing with the likes of City and Arsenal, when our income is never likely to be anywhere near what those teams can generate. The best a team can do these days is hope for an incredible manager like Unai Emery signing on for them and snatching a Champion's League spot, but even that can do more harm than good in the long run. Oh I meant like a literal Cloughy resurrection, but yeah in a more sober and sanguine perspective you’re right 100% For something vaguely equivalent to happen you need like an elite, elite manager to be happy to stay with a particular team for a decade and not be poached by a big boy. I guess it’s theoretically possible if the next Pep or Klopp happens to be a dyed in the wool fan of a mid table team and would stay put, but aside from that it’s just not how things work these days | ||
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