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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 12 2021 21:08 GMT
#3041
Denmark coach: "UEFA gave us two options: either finish the match now or tomorrow at noon."
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26799 Posts
June 12 2021 21:13 GMT
#3042
That was, unedifying.

Not sure how it was across your various countries, the BBC over here kept the footage rolling on their broadcast, there was absolutely no need to it was patently clear what was happening.

Was having my kiddo over, who’s old enough for this to be his first real tournament he remembers (mine was France 98, same age actually) and having witnessed my own dad fail to get resuscitated by CPR and trying to explain what was happening was just, awful.

Frankly unacceptable, broadcasters will apologise for an exuberant swear, cut to avoid the horrors of a naked person running onto the pitch but keep the footage rolling of what could have been a man dying live and his wife’s reaction?

Beyond fucking sickened really.

Thank god Eriksen is OK, at least to the degree of being alive and responsive. Ideally to the degree he can return to grace the sport he’s enhanced with his skills.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28797 Posts
June 12 2021 21:21 GMT
#3043
On June 13 2021 05:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2021 04:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I feel for my danish brothers really.. eriksen prolly never playing professional football again (29 year old getting heart attack usually means there was some underlying condition that doesnt mesh with professional sports), they win attempts like 25-1, miss penalty, lose 0-1 vs finland on home field.. like wtf..

Daley Blind came back. Not theoretically impossible.


Here's to hoping!

From what I'm googling it seems pretty rare, though.
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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
June 12 2021 21:21 GMT
#3044
So UEFA just as heartless and corrupt as always. First taking tickets from fans and giving shit about fans. Then not given shit about players health. I thought and still hope Denmark played to honore Eriksen and crumbled over the pressure of letting him down. But turns out UEFA just doesn't give ashit about anything else then profit or racisme
GO OG
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 12 2021 21:37 GMT
#3045


get those onions out of here
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26799 Posts
June 12 2021 22:16 GMT
#3046
On June 13 2021 06:37 Faruko wrote:
https://twitter.com/Elkharboutly/status/1403813989558194180

get those onions out of here

I’m not crying, you’re crying!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6274 Posts
June 13 2021 00:33 GMT
#3047
On June 13 2021 06:21 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2021 05:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
On June 13 2021 04:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I feel for my danish brothers really.. eriksen prolly never playing professional football again (29 year old getting heart attack usually means there was some underlying condition that doesnt mesh with professional sports), they win attempts like 25-1, miss penalty, lose 0-1 vs finland on home field.. like wtf..

Daley Blind came back. Not theoretically impossible.


Here's to hoping!

From what I'm googling it seems pretty rare, though.

I don't think Blinds situation is comparable. He didn't collapse the same way Erikson did. Hopefully he's alright though.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-13 06:15:31
June 13 2021 06:07 GMT
#3048
On June 13 2021 06:08 sneakyfox wrote:
Denmark coach: "UEFA gave us two options: either finish the match now or tomorrow at noon."


Denmark was put between a rock and hard place. Missing a penalty and Kasper fumbling over Finland's only attempt at goal just shows how they had not recovered from their emotional trauma of almost losing their talismanic captain Eriksen. It's a wonder that they could even play with such fierce intensity in the second half.

Danish coach:
"The players could not imagine not being able to sleep tonight and to have to go on a bus tomorrow and play again. It was easier to go out and it was best to get it over with.

"It's been a tough night. We are all reminded of what the most important thing in life is - to have valuable relationships, people we're close to, our family and our friends.

"I couldn't be prouder of those people who took such good care of each other. He is one of my very dear friends. The way the players talked in the dressing room to decide to not do anything before we knew Christian was conscious and OK.

"You can't play a game with such feelings. We tried to win. It was incredible they managed to go out and try to play the second half.

"Honestly, there were players out there who were completely done. Emotionally done and emotionally exhausted.

"All of our thoughts and prayers are with Christian and his family. He is one of our best players and one of the best players out there, but he is an even better person.

"There are players who are completely emotionally exhausted. It was a traumatic experience. We talked about those feelings and it would've been OK to say 'no' if they didn't want to play.

"Some of them were not able to play, some were ready. We just tried to do our best, but you can't play a football game at this level. It's not normal to play such a game when one of your friends is suffering with a heart issue. I cannot imagine playing a game like that. We are going to offer therapy sessions and there are people who will help us."


UEFA could've handled the affair better. The ultimatum is quite unfair. Delaying the match to a much later date may cause scheduling problems, but that's still manageable (maybe get the other teams in the group to have certain matches held earlier, in order to fit the delayed match between the third round of group matches and RO16).

I'm sure some of the players were thinking that karma alone would let them win the game, or that the momentum build from the first half was enough to break Finland, or that it's strategically better to get this game out of the way before the 'big' game against Belgium next. If I was the manager, I would've probably gone with playing the next day instead of continuing. Some players clearly looked 'mentally done' from their tearful faces after Eriksen collapsed (Delaney, especially). That said, it's a tough decision either way.

It's a terrible shame, because Denmark had a real shot at performing well in the tournament. Kudos to Finland for their show in support and sportsmanship, but the win was fortuitous and undeserving. Coupled with the absence of Eriksen and the psychological impact of dropping 3 points against the weakest team in the group, I just don't see Denmark getting out the group (maybe sneaking in at third place, only to get thumped by a top team in RO16).

Anyway, football takes the backseat. Get well, Eriksen and Denmark. 2021 may not be your year, but I'm sure you all will come back stronger in years to come!
gg no re thx
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2049 Posts
June 13 2021 07:05 GMT
#3049
On June 13 2021 06:21 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2021 05:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
On June 13 2021 04:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I feel for my danish brothers really.. eriksen prolly never playing professional football again (29 year old getting heart attack usually means there was some underlying condition that doesnt mesh with professional sports), they win attempts like 25-1, miss penalty, lose 0-1 vs finland on home field.. like wtf..

Daley Blind came back. Not theoretically impossible.


Here's to hoping!

From what I'm googling it seems pretty rare, though.

It may be a bad idea to read too much into this is a complex medical condition, but I think there may be some silver lining that there doesn't seem to be any immediate need for repair surgery or such (that we know of). My best guess is that his heart itself is well capable of withstanding the sport, it's more of a pacing issue of some sort.

But yeah, it's probably better to just be glad he's alive and recovering. The rest will follow at some point when the parties involved feel confident and comfortable talking about things.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4403 Posts
June 13 2021 10:59 GMT
#3050
Joao Cancelo has tested positive to covid. Diego Dalot has been called up to replace him.

Rest of the Portugal squad have been tested and come back negative.
Sucker for nostalgia
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-13 12:02:44
June 13 2021 12:02 GMT
#3051
On June 13 2021 15:07 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2021 06:08 sneakyfox wrote:
Denmark coach: "UEFA gave us two options: either finish the match now or tomorrow at noon."


Denmark was put between a rock and hard place. Missing a penalty and Kasper fumbling over Finland's only attempt at goal just shows how they had not recovered from their emotional trauma of almost losing their talismanic captain Eriksen. It's a wonder that they could even play with such fierce intensity in the second half.

Danish coach:
Show nested quote +
"The players could not imagine not being able to sleep tonight and to have to go on a bus tomorrow and play again. It was easier to go out and it was best to get it over with.

"It's been a tough night. We are all reminded of what the most important thing in life is - to have valuable relationships, people we're close to, our family and our friends.

"I couldn't be prouder of those people who took such good care of each other. He is one of my very dear friends. The way the players talked in the dressing room to decide to not do anything before we knew Christian was conscious and OK.

"You can't play a game with such feelings. We tried to win. It was incredible they managed to go out and try to play the second half.

"Honestly, there were players out there who were completely done. Emotionally done and emotionally exhausted.

"All of our thoughts and prayers are with Christian and his family. He is one of our best players and one of the best players out there, but he is an even better person.

"There are players who are completely emotionally exhausted. It was a traumatic experience. We talked about those feelings and it would've been OK to say 'no' if they didn't want to play.

"Some of them were not able to play, some were ready. We just tried to do our best, but you can't play a football game at this level. It's not normal to play such a game when one of your friends is suffering with a heart issue. I cannot imagine playing a game like that. We are going to offer therapy sessions and there are people who will help us."


UEFA could've handled the affair better. The ultimatum is quite unfair. Delaying the match to a much later date may cause scheduling problems, but that's still manageable (maybe get the other teams in the group to have certain matches held earlier, in order to fit the delayed match between the third round of group matches and RO16).

I'm sure some of the players were thinking that karma alone would let them win the game, or that the momentum build from the first half was enough to break Finland, or that it's strategically better to get this game out of the way before the 'big' game against Belgium next. If I was the manager, I would've probably gone with playing the next day instead of continuing. Some players clearly looked 'mentally done' from their tearful faces after Eriksen collapsed (Delaney, especially). That said, it's a tough decision either way.

It's a terrible shame, because Denmark had a real shot at performing well in the tournament. Kudos to Finland for their show in support and sportsmanship, but the win was fortuitous and undeserving. Coupled with the absence of Eriksen and the psychological impact of dropping 3 points against the weakest team in the group, I just don't see Denmark getting out the group (maybe sneaking in at third place, only to get thumped by a top team in RO16).

Anyway, football takes the backseat. Get well, Eriksen and Denmark. 2021 may not be your year, but I'm sure you all will come back stronger in years to come!


Peter Schmeichel also has some strong views:

"It's a ridiculous decision by Uefa."

"They should have tried to work out a different scenario and shown a little bit of compassion, and they didn't."

"That would be the worst two hours in my time in football."

"Something terrible like that happens and Uefa gives the players an option to go out and play the game or come back at 12:00 on Sunday. What kind of option is that?

"The result of the game is completely irrelevant. I mean, how can you play?"
gg no re thx
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 13 2021 12:14 GMT
#3052
Gareth Southgate going to be sacked after game 1 it seems lol he has started 2 right backs (1 of them at left back!), benched a leftback, not put jaden sancho in the SQUAD at all and started Sterling over Grealish/Sancho and Rashford for whatever reason xD
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 13 2021 12:39 GMT
#3053
On June 13 2021 21:14 Pandemona wrote:
Gareth Southgate going to be sacked after game 1 it seems lol he has started 2 right backs (1 of them at left back!), benched a leftback, not put jaden sancho in the SQUAD at all and started Sterling over Grealish/Sancho and Rashford for whatever reason xD


He belongs to the new age Pep school of coaching. And maybe has a data analyst who moonlights as an e-sports consultant (coming up with sniper builds).
gg no re thx
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 13 2021 12:49 GMT
#3054
Indeed he does, our biggest game of the group and he plays a crazy first 11, i was hyped for the Euros due to we have so much talent and i thought with 5 subs not even southgate could mess it up as you just can chop and change during the game so foden grealish sancho would all get plenty of minutes but it seems he can even mess that up haha.

Oh well. COME ON ENGLAND....ITS COMING HOME!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
June 13 2021 14:27 GMT
#3055
Croatia seems super weak today.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 13 2021 14:33 GMT
#3056
On June 13 2021 19:59 DropBear wrote:
Joao Cancelo has tested positive to covid. Diego Dalot has been called up to replace him.

Rest of the Portugal squad have been tested and come back negative.


Nooooo that guy is in my Fantasy team (actually he is in 25% of the fantasy teams^^)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 13 2021 14:53 GMT
#3057
Croatia will struggle to get out of this group, they were awful, Modric just walks around the pitch he is too old!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
June 13 2021 14:56 GMT
#3058
To be honest the whole game was boring except for starting 15 minutes All early matches seems like has same issue
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 13 2021 15:06 GMT
#3059
On June 13 2021 21:14 Pandemona wrote:
Gareth Southgate going to be sacked after game 1 it seems lol he has started 2 right backs (1 of them at left back!), benched a leftback, not put jaden sancho in the SQUAD at all and started Sterling over Grealish/Sancho and Rashford for whatever reason xD


This aged well.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
June 13 2021 15:09 GMT
#3060
On June 13 2021 23:56 Dav1oN wrote:
To be honest the whole game was boring except for starting 15 minutes All early matches seems like has same issue


Yes, so far, only Italy played up to par.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
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