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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17546 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-24 13:15:42
August 24 2020 13:13 GMT
#781
Paul George didn't have an ice pack on last night after the game.

The way things are going Alexander for PG13 in a one for one trade ... is a bad trade.

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Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
August 24 2020 22:35 GMT
#782
Pretty good for a weak ass white boy...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
August 25 2020 01:02 GMT
#783
On August 24 2020 10:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2020 07:09 zev318 wrote:
nick nurse winning is a no brainer, pretty much every preseason prediction had raptors around 500 and fighting for the bottom of the playoff seeds. but to point out, the coaches voted for budenholzer and donovan. i can see donovan but cant understand why ppl would vote for budenholzer this year. bucks did what they were expected to do. one theory was that the coaches didnt want to vote for nurse because they didnt like how casey was fired after winning the award

pacers/heat series is over, oladipo didnt play well, and MJ warren went back to playing like TJ warren.


The Raptors developmental framework was in place before Nurse took over as head coach.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2020 07:09 zev318 wrote:
pretty much every preseason prediction had raptors around 500 and fighting for the bottom of the playoff seeds.

...

The fact a Raptors coach has won COY two out of the last three years demonstrates this is more of an organization wide thing than Casey and/or NUrse being the best coach in the league.


Casey won the award primarily for being the head coach of a team that drastically changed their playstyle on offense (a change that was forced on him by Ujiri). An offense that Nurse designed and implemented. It could easily be argued that the year Casey won COTY he did on the back of Nurse's work on offense.

With Casey gone, it's also allowed Nurse to implement his defensive ideas and has made Toronto one of the best defending teams in the league as well. They've won games they had no business winning because of some of his defensive decisions. I never saw Casey pull rabbits out of his hat the way I've seen from Nurse the last 2 years.

Ya, the execs provide the players but they gave Casey players too and all that got us was swept by the Lebrons year after year (or the Wizards, lol).
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17546 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-25 01:43:07
August 25 2020 01:18 GMT
#784
The Raptors defense got better because they unloaded Derozan and JV. The #1 target for teams doing the PnR gimmick was to put Derozan and JV into that action. That was the #1 way to break down the Raptors defense during the Derozan years.
On August 25 2020 10:02 Nemireck wrote:
Ya, the execs provide the players but they gave Casey players too and all that got us was swept by the Lebrons year after year (or the Wizards, lol).

big difference between Kawhi and Derozan. Big difference between Gasol and JV.

Nurse is a good coach. He is probably one of the top 10 coaches in the NBA.
On August 25 2020 10:02 Nemireck wrote:
With Casey gone, it's also allowed Nurse to implement his defensive ideas and has made Toronto one of the best defending teams in the league as well. They've won games they had no business winning because of some of his defensive decisions. I never saw Casey pull rabbits out of his hat the way I've seen from Nurse the last 2 years.

You do notice that Lowry and VanVleet are permitted to adlib almost all game long right? Nurse and Casey both deserve credit for giving them that freedom. However, they earned that freedom by being brilliant decision makers.

The Raptors half court offense.. over which a coach can have more influence .. is the worst part of the team's over all game.
On August 25 2020 10:02 Nemireck wrote:
Ya, the execs provide the players but they gave Casey players too and all that got us was swept by the Lebrons year after year.

With Bizmack Biyombo as their starting center , a 35 year old Luis Scola at PF, and Derozan at SG ... Casey managed to get the Raptors to the ECF and play 6 games against the 2016 champion cavaliers. Casey is a good coach.. I'd say Nurse is a bit better.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
August 26 2020 01:18 GMT
#785
Jamal Murray was sensational tonight. Seems like we're getting an incredible solo performance every night lately. Now we're gonna watch Luka vs Kawhi, what a treat.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 04:19:13
August 26 2020 04:18 GMT
#786
I think these 2 LA blowouts are a result of early bubble offense being somewhat fools gold. A lot of people had been saying the product was good, which I kept disagreeing with, and this is why. People were not playing good defense at all, it was like mini all star games. Now sometimes we see a team able to play defense coordinated and in shape (this is likely a large part of the bad defense, its almost impossible to be in NBA shape without playing NBA games) they end up going on like 20-2 runs.

I know the final scores were also influenced by injury, but those huge early game runs are just generally unheard of in playoff games. Sure, a 25-5 run happens, but not the first 15 points (right?) of the game. Its like when the Bulls held the Jazz to 22 pts in the second half. Its not supposed to be a real thing.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 26 2020 04:44 GMT
#787
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 26 2020 05:33 GMT
#788
They aren't THAT inconsistent. I mean, the final score, sure, but that run was implausible for a team tying in a playoff game, unless something was amiss. And something was, there were temporary shifts into real playoff basketball.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17546 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 17:37:08
August 26 2020 14:35 GMT
#789
If the Clippers are going to goon it up... i think its a bad idea. They can win just because they are better. They start doing this stuff and the 11th best player on another team might undercut Kawhi.

you goon it up when you are worse and you are trying to turn the series into a giant clusterfuck.

https://streamable.com/mglxo2
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17546 Posts
August 26 2020 20:40 GMT
#790
i wonder how many games will be boycotted?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/report-bucks-boycotting-game-5-series-vs-magic/
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 21:01:37
August 26 2020 20:46 GMT
#791
probably raptors celtics

okc rockets ain't happening either
© Current year.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 26 2020 21:11 GMT
#792
All games tonight are postponed.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 26 2020 21:57 GMT
#793
The 2023 CBA is going to be a bloodbath.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17546 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-26 23:42:03
August 26 2020 23:29 GMT
#794
The WNBA is also "strking" games. The WNBA might break even for the first time ever!

On August 27 2020 06:57 cLutZ wrote:
The 2023 CBA is going to be a bloodbath.

"fewer customers... less money.." it worked for Jerry Maguire.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 27 2020 02:10 GMT
#795
On August 26 2020 13:18 cLutZ wrote:
I think these 2 LA blowouts are a result of early bubble offense being somewhat fools gold. A lot of people had been saying the product was good, which I kept disagreeing with, and this is why. People were not playing good defense at all, it was like mini all star games. Now sometimes we see a team able to play defense coordinated and in shape (this is likely a large part of the bad defense, its almost impossible to be in NBA shape without playing NBA games) they end up going on like 20-2 runs.

I know the final scores were also influenced by injury, but those huge early game runs are just generally unheard of in playoff games. Sure, a 25-5 run happens, but not the first 15 points (right?) of the game. Its like when the Bulls held the Jazz to 22 pts in the second half. Its not supposed to be a real thing.


Both the Blazers and Mavs profile as teams with strong offenses with weak defenses. The Blazers were almost eliminated by a depleted Nets team. It took a heroic effort by Dame to get them to the playoffs. The Lakers aren't good offensively but even bad offenses can go off when the other team doesn't defend. The Blazers and Mavs are vulnerable to other teams going on huge runs because of their poor defense. The Clippers made something like 11 straight shots during their run the other night.

One of the announcers made a good point early on in the bubble. Defenses were behind at the start of the bubble because of the lack of conditioning and coordination. Offenses were ahead because the players couldn't practice anything but shooting for 4 months. Not to mention all those players who only shoot well in an empty gym but couldn't hit anything in a packed arena. Well, now they have an empty gym to shoot in.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23994 Posts
August 27 2020 02:42 GMT
#796
Seems discussions on the rest of the season are getting heated

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 03:42:46
August 27 2020 03:33 GMT
#797
espn a joke

SAS earlier this morning: these (raptors/celtics) players need to play

SAS now: I'm happy that these players aren't playing tonight

© Current year.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 27 2020 03:56 GMT
#798
It really is a strange sequence of thoughts to me. Like did players think there would be 3 months without an officer involved shooting? Do they think trying to leverage political pressure onto a prosecution is a good idea?
Freeeeeeedom
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
August 27 2020 04:54 GMT
#799
That is a lazy post. They aren't one group with the same thoughts and one single strategy. They are individuals who are affected in different ways by these events.

And for some of them, maybe after seeing yet another person get gunned down by cops, they just don't see basketball as the priority now.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17546 Posts
August 27 2020 06:01 GMT
#800
On August 27 2020 13:54 Manifesto7 wrote:
That is a lazy post. They aren't one group with the same thoughts and one single strategy. They are individuals who are affected in different ways by these events.

And for some of them, maybe after seeing yet another person get gunned down by cops, they just don't see basketball as the priority now.

he is prolly referring to the written statement george hill and sterling brown read when the Bucks announced they were not playing.

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