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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 27 2020 17:25 GMT
#801
i'm all for the movement, but they should also demand better treatment from their own brothers and sisters and for the some of the more famous ones to set better examples.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 27 2020 18:09 GMT
#802
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14076 Posts
August 27 2020 18:21 GMT
#803
On August 27 2020 06:57 cLutZ wrote:
The 2023 CBA is going to be a bloodbath.

NBA has shown an ability to be surprisingly on the ball for everything that has come up so far. Adam silver has managed to thread the needle between player empowerment and a focus on the bottom line in a way that embarrasses the other leagues. They were sending memo's about the virus back in January and the owners have been fully supportive while the players have been and will probably continue to be supported in a way that the other leagues don't come close to. They have tons of currency on both sides of the CBA that I can't imagine will be anywhere near a problem that MLB will be facing or MLS when they finally get those national TV deals that are coming to them.

I think Lebron has suddenly realized that he grew up in and played for a team in ohio and that Giannis plays for a team in Wisconsin. Players shouldn't shut up and play but they should also shouldn't just shut up and not play. They have real power in America that black athletes, in particular, have been told to not use even by their fellow black athletes. Tom Brady would win any seat in the northwest that he wanted in November. Arnold Schwarzenegger won the governor race in California.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 27 2020 18:38 GMT
#804
On August 28 2020 03:21 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2020 06:57 cLutZ wrote:
The 2023 CBA is going to be a bloodbath.

NBA has shown an ability to be surprisingly on the ball for everything that has come up so far. Adam silver has managed to thread the needle between player empowerment and a focus on the bottom line in a way that embarrasses the other leagues. They were sending memo's about the virus back in January and the owners have been fully supportive while the players have been and will probably continue to be supported in a way that the other leagues don't come close to. They have tons of currency on both sides of the CBA that I can't imagine will be anywhere near a problem that MLB will be facing or MLS when they finally get those national TV deals that are coming to them.

I think Lebron has suddenly realized that he grew up in and played for a team in ohio and that Giannis plays for a team in Wisconsin. Players shouldn't shut up and play but they should also shouldn't just shut up and not play. They have real power in America that black athletes, in particular, have been told to not use even by their fellow black athletes. Tom Brady would win any seat in the northwest that he wanted in November. Arnold Schwarzenegger won the governor race in California.


I almost 100% disagree with your first paragraph. The Silver NBA has had lots of problems. Cap smoothing was an easy situation that they boggled. They were slower at bubbling than MLS even though they have dozens of times more resources (competent leadership would have been able to start in May, excellent leadership May 1st). Player empowerment still hasn't resolved itself in a positive direction, they haven't monetized social media attention successfully, etc.

When it comes to the race relations stuff, they've mostly had layups like Sterling, and these new controversies it seems they just gave the players almost 100% of what they wanted, not really to great effect. The slogan-names are distracting and add little, for example. And in spite of all this, and appearing to be a very player-friendly commissioner from the outside, its quite clear that the players and the union don't trust him/have faith in him at all.
Freeeeeeedom
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 19:03:17
August 27 2020 18:57 GMT
#805
On August 28 2020 03:38 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2020 03:21 Sermokala wrote:
On August 27 2020 06:57 cLutZ wrote:
The 2023 CBA is going to be a bloodbath.

NBA has shown an ability to be surprisingly on the ball for everything that has come up so far. Adam silver has managed to thread the needle between player empowerment and a focus on the bottom line in a way that embarrasses the other leagues. They were sending memo's about the virus back in January and the owners have been fully supportive while the players have been and will probably continue to be supported in a way that the other leagues don't come close to. They have tons of currency on both sides of the CBA that I can't imagine will be anywhere near a problem that MLB will be facing or MLS when they finally get those national TV deals that are coming to them.

I think Lebron has suddenly realized that he grew up in and played for a team in ohio and that Giannis plays for a team in Wisconsin. Players shouldn't shut up and play but they should also shouldn't just shut up and not play. They have real power in America that black athletes, in particular, have been told to not use even by their fellow black athletes. Tom Brady would win any seat in the northwest that he wanted in November. Arnold Schwarzenegger won the governor race in California.


I almost 100% disagree with your first paragraph. The Silver NBA has had lots of problems. Cap smoothing was an easy situation that they boggled. They were slower at bubbling than MLS even though they have dozens of times more resources (competent leadership would have been able to start in May, excellent leadership May 1st). Player empowerment still hasn't resolved itself in a positive direction, they haven't monetized social media attention successfully, etc.

When it comes to the race relations stuff, they've mostly had layups like Sterling, and these new controversies it seems they just gave the players almost 100% of what they wanted, not really to great effect. The slogan-names are distracting and add little, for example. And in spite of all this, and appearing to be a very player-friendly commissioner from the outside, its quite clear that the players and the union don't trust him/have faith in him at all.


and did you see how MLS's bubble started? i dont think the players have any beef about the NBA taking their time to make sure the bubble is actually safe for everyone and so far its working well.

im not a very big social media guy, so can you give me an example of someone "monetizing social media successfully"?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 27 2020 19:00 GMT
#806
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 27 2020 19:25 GMT
#807
On August 28 2020 03:57 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2020 03:38 cLutZ wrote:
On August 28 2020 03:21 Sermokala wrote:
On August 27 2020 06:57 cLutZ wrote:
The 2023 CBA is going to be a bloodbath.

NBA has shown an ability to be surprisingly on the ball for everything that has come up so far. Adam silver has managed to thread the needle between player empowerment and a focus on the bottom line in a way that embarrasses the other leagues. They were sending memo's about the virus back in January and the owners have been fully supportive while the players have been and will probably continue to be supported in a way that the other leagues don't come close to. They have tons of currency on both sides of the CBA that I can't imagine will be anywhere near a problem that MLB will be facing or MLS when they finally get those national TV deals that are coming to them.

I think Lebron has suddenly realized that he grew up in and played for a team in ohio and that Giannis plays for a team in Wisconsin. Players shouldn't shut up and play but they should also shouldn't just shut up and not play. They have real power in America that black athletes, in particular, have been told to not use even by their fellow black athletes. Tom Brady would win any seat in the northwest that he wanted in November. Arnold Schwarzenegger won the governor race in California.


I almost 100% disagree with your first paragraph. The Silver NBA has had lots of problems. Cap smoothing was an easy situation that they boggled. They were slower at bubbling than MLS even though they have dozens of times more resources (competent leadership would have been able to start in May, excellent leadership May 1st). Player empowerment still hasn't resolved itself in a positive direction, they haven't monetized social media attention successfully, etc.

When it comes to the race relations stuff, they've mostly had layups like Sterling, and these new controversies it seems they just gave the players almost 100% of what they wanted, not really to great effect. The slogan-names are distracting and add little, for example. And in spite of all this, and appearing to be a very player-friendly commissioner from the outside, its quite clear that the players and the union don't trust him/have faith in him at all.


and did you see how MLS's bubble started? i dont think the players have any beef about the NBA taking their time to make sure the bubble is actually safe for everyone and so far its working well.

im not a very big social media guy, so can you give me an example of someone "monetizing social media successfully"?


No one really does monetize social media, but the league has embraced it as the key to its future. Its like one of those Step 1, Step 2 .... Step 3 Profit! Plans
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17204 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 21:33:51
August 27 2020 21:10 GMT
#808
i think Freddie nails it here and hints at the line of BS the players were fed to show up in "the bubble".

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/raptors-fred-vanvleet-jacob-blake-shooting-nba-players/5sh5f8kpxmae12zg12jf907hn

I'm just over the media aspect of it. It's sensationalized. We talk about it everyday. That's all we see, but it just feels like a big pacifier to me."


i'd say Fred VanVleet is one of the smartest NBA players both on and off the court. His BBIQ and his IQ were ignored by scouts. Scouts only looked at how tall he was and how high he could jump.

AGENTS/OWNERS RHETORIC: "ya guys i know this bubble sucks and everything but we're going to plaster `black lives matter` all over the place and it'll change to world"

I'd say FVV's success is a big FUCK YOU to the NBA establishment. When it comes to NBA scouts meetings.... I imagine a scene similar to Moneyball where the scouts sit around and talk about how good looking a player's gf is and all manner of other stupid crap when evaluating players. But, they always ignore intelligence.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-28 17:17:18
August 28 2020 17:16 GMT
#809
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 28 2020 22:40 GMT
#810
rip KP
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17204 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-29 19:29:18
August 29 2020 19:21 GMT
#811
NBA ratings in the USA are down. In Canada, Raptors ratings are up.
https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/toronto-raptors-television-sportsnet

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29766278/raptors-kyle-lowry-questionable-game-1-sprained-ankle
the Raptors are playing games with this injury. They didn't release the grade of ankle sprain. He is now "questionable".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 30 2020 01:31 GMT
#812
Round 1 in the east is over. Meanwhile, Lakers-Blazers could be the first series to be over.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 30 2020 01:35 GMT
#813
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17204 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-30 02:45:03
August 30 2020 02:40 GMT
#814
huh? i'll just take 1 year. 2017.

the 1st seeded Celtics are in a fight for their lives against the Bulls and the series turns when Rondo gets hurt. Otherwise, 1st seeded Boston gets eliminated. 3rd seeded Toronto ends up in a steel cage texas death match with the Bucks. The series turns when Norman Powell, a raw part time bench player at the time, gets put into a full time starter role by Casey. Powell at small forward goes a perfect 9 for 9 from 3. If Powell doesn't play absolutely out of his mind the Bucks probably win that series. 3 of Toronto's 4 wins are brutal slug fests.

you're over generalizing.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 30 2020 04:30 GMT
#815
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-30 14:49:18
August 30 2020 14:43 GMT
#816
cant forget all the injuries, i think they would have at least went 5-6 games every series if the injuries werent so one sided. every series, it was basically 100% healthy teams vs teams missing at least 1 starter

indiana might as well have been playing without 3 starters as oladipo and warren werent very effective in the playoffs
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 31 2020 01:12 GMT
#817
On August 30 2020 11:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
huh? i'll just take 1 year. 2017.

the 1st seeded Celtics are in a fight for their lives against the Bulls and the series turns when Rondo gets hurt. Otherwise, 1st seeded Boston gets eliminated. 3rd seeded Toronto ends up in a steel cage texas death match with the Bucks. The series turns when Norman Powell, a raw part time bench player at the time, gets put into a full time starter role by Casey. Powell at small forward goes a perfect 9 for 9 from 3. If Powell doesn't play absolutely out of his mind the Bucks probably win that series. 3 of Toronto's 4 wins are brutal slug fests.

you're over generalizing.



A few exceptions don't disprove the overall trend. For the past roughly 20 years or so, the bottom seeds in the East have just been generally weaker than the bottom seeds in the West.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
August 31 2020 05:24 GMT
#818
Nuggets/Jazz going to 7.

Luka, Kawhi and Jamal Murray were all sensational tonight, and Donovan Mitchell continues to be great too.

Jamal Murray though.... 50,42,50 in his last 3 playoff games. WTF, those are Michael Jordan numbers.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 31 2020 14:23 GMT
#819
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 31 2020 14:46 GMT
#820
lets hope he's not TJ warren, has some good games and then falls off a cliff.
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