EPTbut judging fouls already starts with the question "what is a foul?"
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
but judging fouls already starts with the question "what is a foul?" | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4199 Posts
On October 28 2019 14:10 Greg_J wrote: This is nuts. (The 2 bundesliga incident.) Wow lol, that’s extremely harsh even if it’s a rule. That ball was obviously going out and the play did not interfere with play in any way. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
Clearly this should be refereed like professional fouls: - prevent a goal scoring opportunity = red and penalty - stop the ball going out too early = indirect fk and maybe a yellow for stupidity, depending on context Heres hoping that this is taken notice of and a common sense change to the laws is applied soon- However blaming the referee and var for not ignoring the rules is just annoying. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland2117 Posts
I just find it easier to keep the rule straightforward. I'm not particularly against having more room to pick the correct punishment, but the bottom line is that it never even should come to question whether a player outside the current 11 interfered with the play. Especially with the loud stadiums, mental pressure, time wasting and all that, we sometimes get really awkward stuff like Hazard vs the ballboy. I'd rather keep possibilities like that minimal whenever the more lax set of rules isn't making the game flow much better anyway. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
this explains so much, suddenly having a non football leaguer decide is gonna cause tons of pens | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On October 28 2019 17:53 sharkie wrote: can someone explain me why the Premier league has such huge problems with VAR? I know its not perfect anywhere but imo its the worst in England - whats different there? The premier league refs official governing body they have (PMGOL) stated they set the bar very high to overrule any decision in the game, if it is not an OBVIOUS error they said they would not get involved, that is why the calls are shit like they are even with VAR active. Now this weekend it looks like they relaxed them tenfold but still got some wrong, even though imo this weekend was way better. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Pretty nice Messi FK goal. Also Suarez / Messi <3 | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On October 30 2019 07:14 739 wrote: Nice, Barca demolished on Camp Nou as expected. Pretty nice Messi FK goal. Also Suarez / Messi <3 The way you wrote that made me think Barcelona lost badly at home. I had to check the result. | ||
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
I have a bad feeling about Barcelona when Messi retires. He has been carrying the team alone (with Ter Stegen) since Neymar left. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
https://streamja.com/OWme Also;
https://streamja.com/Aorn Assists: https://streamja.com/nlRA https://streamja.com/qlNV What a masterclass. He's simply incredible. Continues to astound, 15 years in a row. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On October 30 2019 14:49 haitike wrote: The difference between the beginning of the league without Messi and now with Messi is so huge (All victories since he is playing in form). I have a bad feeling about Barcelona when Messi retires. He has been carrying the team alone (with Ter Stegen) since Neymar left. It will be a couple of years, they have some time to work on their team. They're already bringing youngsters in the team like Frenkie de Jong. But yeah, they'll fall off but isn't that quite logical when the best player in the world retires? That would happen to any team. Look at what happened in Madrid :x | ||
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Savatage
Italy182 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
On October 30 2019 16:39 Savatage wrote: Every time i watch some Liga's highlights it baffles me how teams defend so badly, like no fucking marking by defenders, tons of space for every forward to control the ball, turn and go for the goal. The first goal of Barca's match is a perfect example And yet it is by far the strongest league, or at least was until the last season, where the Premiere League probably was better. Sometimes I feel exactly the same like you do, but maybe our perceptions are just flawed. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4199 Posts
On October 30 2019 16:02 Twisted wrote: I've just watched the highlights, both assists and goals were amazing. I was mostly in awe of his ball control again in his second goal (the 4-1). It looks so simple, yet the way he controls it with his upper leg and how it perfectly lines up for the shot, no-one else does that. Most people just try to control the ball and end up with their backs to the goal and play continues from there. Somehow he manages to control it in an 180 degree angle and grants himself the time to release a pitch-perfect missile. https://streamja.com/OWme Also; <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="nl"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">50 - Lionel Messi has scored his 50th direct free-kick goal in his proffessional career (44 for <a href="https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FCBarcelona</a> and six for Argentina🇦🇷). Genius. <a href="https://t.co/l0YXMcQNOD">pic.twitter.com/l0YXMcQNOD</a></p>— OptaJose (@OptaJose) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptaJose/status/1189285345982111749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29 oktober 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="nl"><p lang="ro" dir="ltr">🎯 - Most direct free-kick goals since the start of 2012/13 in Europe's top five leagues<br><br>27 - Lionel Messi (+1)<br>15 - Miralem Pjanic<br>12 - Hakan Çalhanoglu<br>11 - Andrea Pirlo<br>10 - Daniel Parejo<br>10 - Cristiano Ronaldo<br>10 - Aleksandar Kolarov<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bar%C3%A7aValladolid?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BarçaValladolid</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/For%C3%A7aBar%C3%A7a?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ForçaBarça</a></p>— Gracenote Live (@GracenoteLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/GracenoteLive/status/1189302493269954560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29 oktober 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> https://streamja.com/Aorn Assists: https://streamja.com/nlRA https://streamja.com/qlNV What a masterclass. He's simply incredible. Continues to astound, 15 years in a row. Yeah that second goal was pure class, the more I watched the more impressive it gets. Once he got the ball goal side you know it’s going in the back of the net. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2117 Posts
On October 30 2019 18:07 Malinor wrote: And yet it is by far the strongest league, or at least was until the last season, where the Premiere League probably was better. Sometimes I feel exactly the same like you do, but maybe our perceptions are just flawed. At least in terms of overall market value of players, Premier League is still way higher. Transfermarkt lists PL at 9 billion, La Liga at 6 billion. It's probably a horrible measure, for example Grenada is contesting the La Liga right now with total market value of some 35 million or something, but I can't really come up anything better to compare team strength past the top few that qualify to the European competitions. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On October 30 2019 19:18 Bacillus wrote: At least in terms of overall market value of players, Premier League is still way higher. Transfermarkt lists PL at 9 billion, La Liga at 6 billion. It's probably a horrible measure, for example Grenada is contesting the La Liga right now with total market value of some 35 million or something, but I can't really come up anything better to compare team strength past the top few that qualify to the European competitions. English football has a shitload of money but most clubs are managed poorly so a lot of the money goes to waste. Then there's inflated market values for English 'homegrown' players to account for as well. I think the rivalry between both leagues is exciting though, but this year I only see Barça threatening the English clubs (again). Atletico could grind out some results, but Real Madrid is very poor since after they lucked some CL's. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2117 Posts
On October 30 2019 19:43 Twisted wrote: English football has a shitload of money but most clubs are managed poorly so a lot of the money goes to waste. Then there's inflated market values for English 'homegrown' players to account for as well. I think the rivalry between both leagues is exciting though, but this year I only see Barça threatening the English clubs (again). Atletico could grind out some results, but Real Madrid is very poor since after they lucked some CL's. I think the homegrown bonus doesn't apply to transfermarkt directly, most homegrown players are just traded with way higher money than their listed value. I did some googling, but couldn't find much info on their calculation though, so I might be lost on this one. Otherwise I kind of agree, but I couldn't figure out any better even remotely objective metric than the transfermarkt overall. Something like poor management is really hard to assess - especially for bottom half of La Liga teams, which will get very little coverage most of the time. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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