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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6944 Posts
October 18 2019 11:08 GMT
#1381
Liverpools offense had really not a lot of injuries. I just checked and saw Sane missed 1 game, Salah 2 games and Firminho 5 games. That's pretty impressive!

I remember some of you guys were quite the Ole fans last season ... ^_^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8688 Posts
October 18 2019 12:10 GMT
#1382
ole went like 15 games undefeated when he came in. now were going like 15 games without scoring a goal so...
(im exaggerating but still)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2019 15:20 GMT
#1383
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 18 2019 16:28 GMT
#1384
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 18 2019 16:56 GMT
#1385
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 17:51:16
October 18 2019 17:49 GMT
#1386
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9674 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 17:57:19
October 18 2019 17:56 GMT
#1387
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 19:36:34
October 18 2019 18:51 GMT
#1388
ok that was wrong xD

edited
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2714 Posts
October 18 2019 18:51 GMT
#1389
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Where did you read it? I've not seen it in any place.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
October 18 2019 18:52 GMT
#1390
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


Professional volleyball wages are also quite low. let's force clubs to have those as well? And women are not "trying to cathch up", they are simply not great at the game. People don't want to watch players on TV that aren't much better than them, no matter their gender.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
October 18 2019 19:13 GMT
#1391
On October 19 2019 03:52 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


Professional volleyball wages are also quite low. let's force clubs to have those as well? And women are not "trying to cathch up", they are simply not great at the game. People don't want to watch players on TV that aren't much better than them, no matter their gender.

When was professional volleyball officially banned and fought on all levels by professional football?
And of course they are trying to catch up, all leagues were semi pro until recently, most still are.
How in the world are they supposed to remotely reach their potential if they can't even get medical crews for the top level games.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9674 Posts
October 18 2019 20:05 GMT
#1392
On October 19 2019 03:52 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


Professional volleyball wages are also quite low. let's force clubs to have those as well? And women are not "trying to cathch up", they are simply not great at the game. People don't want to watch players on TV that aren't much better than them, no matter their gender.


Would you say women are better now than they were 20 years ago?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 18 2019 21:17 GMT
#1393
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


Theres so many things wrong here the misogyny not withstanding I am not even going to bother. Hopeless case is hopeless. I see people are trying though. Godspeed to them.

From my part at the very least, disturbing is a rather exaggerated description
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
October 19 2019 09:39 GMT
#1394
On October 19 2019 05:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 03:52 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


Professional volleyball wages are also quite low. let's force clubs to have those as well? And women are not "trying to cathch up", they are simply not great at the game. People don't want to watch players on TV that aren't much better than them, no matter their gender.


Would you say women are better now than they were 20 years ago?


That's a very simple and shortsighted argument. For example the women' bundesliga has been around for close to 30 years, which means the best female players nowdays have been training in a professional environment all of their lives. Would you say they can compare to their male counterparts?
This is obviously a very controverse and highly theoretical discussion, what I am pretty sure of however is that enforcing is not the right way to increase the popularity of a sport.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9674 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-19 09:48:50
October 19 2019 09:45 GMT
#1395
On October 19 2019 18:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 05:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 03:52 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


Professional volleyball wages are also quite low. let's force clubs to have those as well? And women are not "trying to cathch up", they are simply not great at the game. People don't want to watch players on TV that aren't much better than them, no matter their gender.


Would you say women are better now than they were 20 years ago?


That's a very simple and shortsighted argument. For example the women' bundesliga has been around for close to 30 years, which means the best female players nowdays have been training in a professional environment all of their lives. Would you say they can compare to their male counterparts?
This is obviously a very controverse and highly theoretical discussion, what I am pretty sure of however is that enforcing is not the right way to increase the popularity of a sport.


Improvements aren't just made over one lifetime. They happen as infrastructure builds, and competition for places increases due to increased participation.
Why do you think people get better and better at every single sport over time? As long as they are allowed to play that sport.

I get what you're saying that forcing things won't necessarily work, but I think its a good thing because Champions League clubs get a HUGE amount of money just for participating and they generally already have the kind of infrastructure in place that could be really useful for the women's game.

Personally I think that any national FA that has ever banned women from playing should be forced to carry the cost of this kind of thing instead of the clubs, but a far as initiatives go this works too to some extent.
RIP Meatloaf <3
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-19 10:24:04
October 19 2019 09:59 GMT
#1396
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


If you want to do that, which is perfectly fine if you want to, offer incentives for clubs that have female teams. Dont force clubs to do such a thing in order to be allowed to play. That is just wrong.

My comment has nothing to do with woman......for the misogyny smartypants comment Rebs, you usually write from your very high horse but as often, failed to grasp the issue.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9674 Posts
October 19 2019 10:06 GMT
#1397
On October 19 2019 18:59 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


If you want to do that, which is perfectly fine if you want to, offer incentives for clubs that have female teams. Dont force clubs to do such a thing in order to be allowed to play. That is retarded.

My comment has nothing to do with woman......for the misogyny smartypants comment, you usually write from your very high horse but as often, failed to grasp the issue.


I haven't said anything about misogyny.

Why is it retarded to force clubs to have female teams?
RIP Meatloaf <3
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-19 10:15:33
October 19 2019 10:13 GMT
#1398
On October 19 2019 18:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 18:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 19 2019 05:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 03:52 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


Professional volleyball wages are also quite low. let's force clubs to have those as well? And women are not "trying to cathch up", they are simply not great at the game. People don't want to watch players on TV that aren't much better than them, no matter their gender.


Would you say women are better now than they were 20 years ago?


That's a very simple and shortsighted argument. For example the women' bundesliga has been around for close to 30 years, which means the best female players nowdays have been training in a professional environment all of their lives. Would you say they can compare to their male counterparts?
This is obviously a very controverse and highly theoretical discussion, what I am pretty sure of however is that enforcing is not the right way to increase the popularity of a sport.


Improvements aren't just made over one lifetime. They happen as infrastructure builds, and competition for places increases due to increased participation.
Why do you think people get better and better at every single sport over time? As long as they are allowed to play that sport.

I get what you're saying that forcing things won't necessarily work, but I think its a good thing because Champions League clubs get a HUGE amount of money just for participating and they generally already have the kind of infrastructure in place that could be really useful for the women's game.

Personally I think that any national FA that has ever banned women from playing should be forced to carry the cost of this kind of thing instead of the clubs, but a far as initiatives go this works too to some extent.


Obviously I agree with you that banning women from playing football was a horrible idea and the natural progression in every sport should be supported and girls should be encouraged to play whatever the feel like. I do not doubt that female football will be of a higher quality 50 years from now.

However, I see no reason to single women's football out compared to other sports just because its male counterpart is so popular or because it was banned for several decades. What's done is done and all that counts is that there are no restrictions anymore today. That does not mean that we should treat it differently to any other male or female sport.
I feel like we are living in a time where people are trying to force their views upon the rest of the populus way too much by claiming the moral highground.

You cannot and should not try to force a sport onto the public when the demand isn't there. That's the way I see it at least.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 19 2019 10:15 GMT
#1399
On October 19 2019 19:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 18:59 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


If you want to do that, which is perfectly fine if you want to, offer incentives for clubs that have female teams. Dont force clubs to do such a thing in order to be allowed to play. That is retarded.

My comment has nothing to do with woman......for the misogyny smartypants comment, you usually write from your very high horse but as often, failed to grasp the issue.


I haven't said anything about misogyny.

Why is it retarded to force clubs to have female teams?


It was not for you, sorry. Writting on the phone it was not easy to do multiple quotes.

Edited to "just wrong" retarded was harsher than intended. To me it is just wrong. Offer incentives and let the clubs chose if they want to go that route and if it makes sense for them or even if they can afford it. Forcing them to have anything is simply wrong in my view. I cant grasp how is it acceptable to force anyone to have those teams, regardless of how noble you think the cause is.

You cant fabricate interest in something, it has to grow, otherwise it will either fail with time or be a money sink to maintain.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9674 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-19 10:28:45
October 19 2019 10:19 GMT
#1400
On October 19 2019 19:13 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 18:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 18:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 19 2019 05:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 03:52 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


Professional volleyball wages are also quite low. let's force clubs to have those as well? And women are not "trying to cathch up", they are simply not great at the game. People don't want to watch players on TV that aren't much better than them, no matter their gender.


Would you say women are better now than they were 20 years ago?


That's a very simple and shortsighted argument. For example the women' bundesliga has been around for close to 30 years, which means the best female players nowdays have been training in a professional environment all of their lives. Would you say they can compare to their male counterparts?
This is obviously a very controverse and highly theoretical discussion, what I am pretty sure of however is that enforcing is not the right way to increase the popularity of a sport.


Improvements aren't just made over one lifetime. They happen as infrastructure builds, and competition for places increases due to increased participation.
Why do you think people get better and better at every single sport over time? As long as they are allowed to play that sport.

I get what you're saying that forcing things won't necessarily work, but I think its a good thing because Champions League clubs get a HUGE amount of money just for participating and they generally already have the kind of infrastructure in place that could be really useful for the women's game.

Personally I think that any national FA that has ever banned women from playing should be forced to carry the cost of this kind of thing instead of the clubs, but a far as initiatives go this works too to some extent.


Obviously I agree with you that banning women from playing football was a horrible idea and the natural progression in every sport should be supported and girls should be encouraged to play whatever the feel like. I do not doubt that female football will be of a higher quality 50 years from now.

However, I see no reason to single women's football out compared to other sports just because its male counterpart is so popular or because it was banned for several decades. I feel like we are living in a time where people are trying to force their views upon the rest of the populus way too much by claiming the moral highground.

You cannot a should not try to force a sport onto the public when the demand isn't there. That's the way I see it at least.


The demand is there.
You might not want to watch women's football but others do. The record attendance for women's games keeps being broken, the last women's world cup was far more watched than the one before.
Its growing, and a helping hand along the way is good.
I think you're trying to make this about politics, and I suppose it does have that element, but measures like this are not primarily political, it is an attempt to try and grow participation and opportunity in the women's game.

I don't see anyone trying to claim the moral high ground here, its a practical issue. The women's game doesn't have the money or infrastructure to be able to grow as fast as it could be growing, so some small measures are being put in place. You could feasibly look at this from a purely commercial point of view and it still makes alot of sense.

I really don't see what the big deal about this is to be honest. Even if I were to accept that this is not a good thing I still don't think its that much of a problem, especially given the paltry amount of money that most of these clubs will spend on their women's teams.

Also remember this: The US women's team dominated the World Cup again. If European teams are to keep up with them, maybe getting CL clubs involved could balance things out a little.

Maybe they could have done this another way, but I think the pros of this move outweigh the cons.

On October 19 2019 19:15 KobraKay wrote:
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On October 19 2019 19:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 18:59 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On October 19 2019 02:49 KobraKay wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:56 Rebs wrote:
On October 19 2019 01:28 KobraKay wrote:
I've read the most disturbing thing today. It seems UEFA will force clubs that are on the CL to have a womans team as well.

Wtf....

Anyone seen anything regarding this? From the reports it even seems it is to be implemented quite soon as well.


Why is that disturbing ?


Forcing clubs to have unrelated squads is not disturbing? Forcing clubs to stress their already tight budget to have a squad that will have zero impact on the team's perfomance in that competition is normal?

It's roughly the same as saying that next year you need a cycling team to be able to take part in CL.

This is not the same as having youth squads from the same sport that can actually have an impact in the team in the present or future. Unless football becomes a mixed sport, this is a disturbing rule.


If you want to grow the women's game and be able to offer female footballers better opportunities and wages in the future this is a fantastic rule.

Remember women are still trying to catch up having been banned from playing competitive football for decades.


If you want to do that, which is perfectly fine if you want to, offer incentives for clubs that have female teams. Dont force clubs to do such a thing in order to be allowed to play. That is retarded.

My comment has nothing to do with woman......for the misogyny smartypants comment, you usually write from your very high horse but as often, failed to grasp the issue.


I haven't said anything about misogyny.

Why is it retarded to force clubs to have female teams?


It was not for you, sorry. Writting on the phone it was not easy to do multiple quotes.

Edited to "just wrong" retarded was harsher than intended. To me it is just wrong. Offer incentives and let the clubs chose if they want to go that route and if it makes sense for them or even if they can afford it. Forcing them to have anything is simply wrong in my view. I cant grasp how is it acceptable to force anyone to have those teams, regardless of how noble you think the cause is.

You cant fabricate interest in something, it has to grow, otherwise it will either fail with time or be a money sink to maintain.


Maybe football needs a money sink

I think clubs should also be forced to invest in grassroots programs if I'm being perfectly honest. The sheer amount of money in the men's pro game is staggering and just reinvesting all of that into top level football creates boring national leagues with fewer competitive teams and huge gaps in skill.
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