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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7427 Posts
April 14 2020 11:22 GMT
#3401
On April 12 2020 01:03 Pandemona wrote:
There was full investigation into the German world cup bribes. A 4.9million fund set up is the claims etc, the offices were raided and what not.

https://www.dw.com/en/ex-fifa-official-confirms-payment-from-german-account-denies-world-cup-bribe/a-42138722

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/01/franz-beckenbauer-criminal-investigation-corruption-allegations-2006-world-cup-bid

Now im not saying they don't deserve to host it they have the infrastructure im just saying no matter wherever you look their is just bribery and dodgy issues.


You are seriously comparing the World Cup in Germany with a World Cup in Katar? Dafuq? I don't even
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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 14 2020 15:45 GMT
#3402
Nah he is saying that the WC2006 went to Germany because of bribes, which is just straight up facts.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
April 14 2020 16:07 GMT
#3403
^
Multiple things can both be undesirable, and to differing degrees. Qatar is just degrees above, and doesn’t really make sense even for FIFA for so many reasons, aside from people bloody dying

Either it’s in summer and I’m not alone in being skeptical we’ll see the best football we could. And a mooted winter switch would bring huge conflict with European Club football especially. When the World Cup is your sole real cash cow neither of these scenarios are particularly smart ones to bring about.

Back to more recent events I’m extremely intrigued at what we may or may not see if the Premier League goes down this route.

Are players going to be at peak condition? They’ll have an artificially induced break so will be rested but can they get back to peak sharpness?

This could be pretty interesting, teams really reliant on heavy pressing may be 5% off the intensity to make it work and we could see some weird results.

How about the psychology of the proposed setup and how that’ll impact players too? Talk to most players long enough and they’ll tell you about players who are great thru even ‘the best’ at a club in training, technically incredible and who just can’t do it in matches for whatever reason.

We might see some players play way above what you’re used to, conversely players who feed off the energy of the crowd maybe they drop off?

Jamie Vardy seems to be fuelled solely by the hatred of opposition fans.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
April 14 2020 16:50 GMT
#3404
a delay of Euro would be pretty good for Holland. Gives Depay some extra time to recover from his injury, and seeing how he's the only quality forward we have...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 14 2020 17:18 GMT
#3405
All i hope is that next season is not changed/shortened/cancelled. Euro 2021 and Olympics next summer is something nice and positive to look forward too and the start of new football season in August/September i hope happens, it might be a big ask but i just hope for it because we need something. Behind closed doors for a while even the whole season im ok with until a vaccine is created.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7427 Posts
April 15 2020 14:59 GMT
#3406
On April 15 2020 00:45 sneirac wrote:
Nah he is saying that the WC2006 went to Germany because of bribes, which is just straight up facts.


When I google "world cup 20xx bribe"

2022 Katar -> bribed
2018 Russia -> bribed
2014 Brazil -> bribed
2010 SA -> bribed
2006 Germany -> bribed
2002 Korea -> apparently here only the Refs were bribed, so all good


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2020 17:04 GMT
#3407
Yeah i am not saying its as bad as Qatar getting it and then on top of that killing workers with how much demand they are putting on them, but the response was saying everyone has a darkside that everywhere is corruption if you look hard enough.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
April 16 2020 09:44 GMT
#3408
well one thing that mustnt be forgotten is that is that the winners of the world cup hosts are the ones who bribed the BEST or do you guys think these are the only countries which bribed? Imo all of them did, some more successfully others less
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 16 2020 13:16 GMT
#3409
I would agree with that statement per se, yeah.
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
April 17 2020 00:10 GMT
#3410
Yep. That's just the way UEFA functions.

Another 3 weeks of lockdown in the UK is sounding pretty bad for finishing the season.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 17 2020 09:09 GMT
#3411
The consortium close to completing a takeover at Newcastle does not expect the Premier League’s owners’ and directors’ test to pose any problems but Amnesty International has raised concerns about Saudi Arabia’s involvement.

The Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia has joined forces with the Yorkshire-born financier Amanda Staveley and the UK-based Reuben Brothers to reach a £310m agreement with Mike Ashley to end his 13-year ownership of Newcastle. The group is undergoing mandatory Premier League background checks that should be completed within the month.

PIF, set to assume 80% control of the club, is one of the world’s wealthiest sovereign wealth funds and the investment tool of Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman.

Amnesty claims PIF’s move into English football is “glamorising” the kingdom’s “abysmal human rights record” and accuses PIF of using Newcastle as “a PR tool”.

Sources close to the prospective new owners have a different view and are adamant the Premier League tests are a formality. The sources point to the consortium’s diverse composition and suggest the Saudis’ willingness to embrace outside involvement is indicative of a Gulf state demonstrating its desire to change and embrace 21st-century modernity.

Sources also point out the takeover includes plans to fund economic regeneration on Tyneside in addition to significant investment in club infrastructure and new players.

While Staveley’s Dubai-based company, PCP Capital Partners, is fronting the deal, Reuben Brothers has an impressive business pedigree. Jamie Reuben, the 32-year-old son of David Reuben and nephew of Simon, is, like Staveley, scheduled to take a seat on the board, although he would first need to resign his directorship at QPR.

According to the most recent Sunday Times Rich List, Reuben Brothers is controlled by the UK’s second richest family, worth £18.66bn, and it already has extensive property interests on Tyneside.

Amnesty is deeply concerned about the Saudis’ controlling stake and Felix Jakens, its UK head of campaigns, is fearful the coronavirus-induced economic emergency could result in the takeover receiving less scrutiny than might otherwise have been expected. “We still need to see it for what it is: Saudi Arabia attempting to use the glamour and prestige of Premier League football as a PR tool to distract from the country’s abysmal human rights record,” Jakens said. “With the world in crisis there’s a risk this deal could go ahead without the degree of scrutiny it should receive.

“Under the Mohammed bin Salman regime, Saudi human rights defenders have been subjected to a brutal crackdown, with numerous peaceful activists jailed – including Loujain al-Hathloul and other brave women’s rights campaigners.

“There’s been a blatant whitewash over Jamal Khashoggi’s grisly murder and the Saudi-led military coalition in Yemen has a disgraceful record of launching indiscriminate attacks on homes and hospitals.”

News of Ashley’s impending exit has left the majority of Newcastle fans exultant but Jakens urged supporters to examine Saudi Arabia’s human rights record and question whether this buyout is really about sports-washing.


Source
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
April 17 2020 11:40 GMT
#3412
Ashley on a purely sporting sense is almost as bad an owner as is possible to have. Sport is about the romance baby, so having an owner who tries to spend as little as possible to stay in the Premier League, has miscalculated even that at times. No cup runs or glamour and somehow manages to obtain a coach as good as Rafael Benitez who the fans love who leaves for the aforementioned reasons.

Newcastle fans aren’t expecting shooting for the stars and potentially dropping like a stone after overspending, merely shooting for something.

Plus the practices of his business empire leave a hell of a lot to be desired, to say the least.

So I entirely understand an almost anybody but Ashley view from those fans, but once more a venerable British social institution will end up in the hands of a foreign regime with an extremely dubious record on human rights, which is a shame.

The proposed regeneration scheme will benefit the local community, as we’ve seen over in Manchester at City.

The North-East certainly needs it, although why British industry/the state or indeed British billionaires can’t do this to help derived areas of the countries and it’s left to Gulf petrodollars as part of a PR push is a damning indictment on this country.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 17 2020 12:59 GMT
#3413
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 18 2020 14:27 GMT
#3414
On April 15 2020 01:50 Acrofales wrote:
a delay of Euro would be pretty good for Holland. Gives Depay some extra time to recover from his injury, and seeing how he's the only quality forward we have...


Will also be good for Germany to hopefully get Sule back.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 18 2020 22:13 GMT
#3415
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14215 Posts
April 19 2020 23:54 GMT
#3416
The Mexcian league has suspended Promotion and Regulation for 5 years. Does anyone else think this might be in preparation for a potential merger into a North American Superleague? Apparently Liga MX's biggest source of income is from American TV rights and together they would probably be able to negotiate a hell of a TV deal.
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
April 20 2020 00:15 GMT
#3417
For five years? That sounds crazy.

I don't know anything about Mexican football. But it sounds like if there is no relegation and promotion and you only have one league across such a large area that means not many clubs.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
April 20 2020 09:53 GMT
#3418
This is weird, I wonder how it is related to a massive football corruption in Mexico. Nation that almost constantly lives in football has so twisted scene and lack of international results all combined
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
April 20 2020 20:58 GMT
#3419
German politicians on their way for allowing league games starting may 9th
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 20 2020 21:08 GMT
#3420
Yep we have some footy soon!!! Germany have done very well with the covid-19 outbreak so far, hope they dont ruin it softening the lockdown to early, but i hope not! I want some footy to watch
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