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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
April 19 2021 02:45 GMT
#981
He's bound to make accidents like that, although you are right in saying that they're not exactly helpful.
What I wonder though is whether or not they'd still want to bring on Russel if Hamilton is still in that number one seat. While I don't think Russel would be able to fully challenge Hamilton, I don't think anyone is capable of that, he could perhaps upset the balance of a clear number 1 and 2 in the team. We'll see I suppose.

I don't think you can outright say Bottas is gone next season, mostly because we're not exactly that deep into the current one.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
April 19 2021 03:23 GMT
#982
On April 19 2021 11:45 Nixer wrote:
He's bound to make accidents like that, although you are right in saying that they're not exactly helpful.
What I wonder though is whether or not they'd still want to bring on Russel if Hamilton is still in that number one seat. While I don't think Russel would be able to fully challenge Hamilton, I don't think anyone is capable of that, he could perhaps upset the balance of a clear number 1 and 2 in the team. We'll see I suppose.

I don't think you can outright say Bottas is gone next season, mostly because we're not exactly that deep into the current one.


I'd expect Russell to be Rosberg level or so. Close to Hamilton on a good day, and just as quick in 95% of scenarios. No doubt he's quick, and able to push Hamilton, but I don't see him overtaking Hamilton just yet.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 03:58:59
April 19 2021 03:53 GMT
#983
On April 19 2021 09:30 Nixer wrote:
If you think come to the conclusion Bottas was at fault for that incident between him and Russell, you need a proper look at it again or new glasses.

Yeah, upon seeing the onboards, the stewards' conclusion it was a racing incident seems reasonable. At first it looked like Bottas had moved over (Brundle even said as much during the broadcast), but seeing Bottas' onboard, it was obvious he was just sticking to the racing line. Several drivers watched the footage and also basically concluded the same or slightly blamed George for doing an overtake attempt that had little chance of working due to how wet most of the track was outside the racing line.

I must say, Bottas handled the aftermath, especially talking to the media, much better than Russell did. Russell went straight into conspiracy mode and said some pretty wild accusations while Bottas didn't even seem all that bothered. Bottas' explanation for what set the event up made sense. He was on new, cold tires while Russell was on a several lap old, fully warmed up set with a full straight worth of DRS. Given how ridiculously strong that DRS zone was, it's certainly plausible.

I think how Russell has handled the event and media has probably harmed his credibility. Toto Wolff's comments certainly suggest this. Wolff's quote that was basically "I told him if he drives well he'll be in a Mercedes next year, and if he drives poorly he'll be in a Renault Clio Cup. Right now he's closer to being in the Renault Clio Cup" cracked me up.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 04:14:50
April 19 2021 04:14 GMT
#984
His attitude today was very disappointing. Not much else to say from my end.

Great race today though. I'm always happy to see Lando on the podium.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
April 19 2021 07:43 GMT
#985
What an amazing race, start to finish!

Hamilton keeps proving that he's the luckiest man alive. That red flag just handed him like 1.5 minutes of racing time, allowing him not only to catch up, but also unlap himself.

George did not have the best race. Tho the first was Hamilton's own fault, and the second was pretty much a racing incident, it still doesn't look well for Toto Wolf's boy to take out both Mercedes's. I didn't catch him talking to the media after, so can't really comment on that.

But hey, Podium for my boy Norris! First place for my other boy Max! Hell yeah!
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-27 05:02:57
April 27 2021 05:00 GMT
#986
They're being trialed at 3 GP's this season. The European tracks are confirmed: Monza and Silverstone. The non-European one is Brazil according to rumors, but it's not confirmed.




I'm gonna start laughing if there are long SC breaks during the sprint race
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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
April 27 2021 07:34 GMT
#987
These sprint races don't sound particularly exciting to me.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
April 27 2021 16:59 GMT
#988
Well one way to make it interesting is to enable DRS from lap 2 onwards, and potentially add 100m or so to all DRS zones. You get a lot more DRS overtakes, and try to keep the field together. We'll see how it goes in F1 though, overtaking on-track is fairly hard at Silverstone, so not sure if there's going to be too much action.

I don't see Brazil going forward with their GP, even if the paddock is mostly immunized. The situation there isn't likely to get back under control any time soon.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
April 27 2021 17:52 GMT
#989
Can anyone TLDR this , why would I want to organize the grid for the race , by doing another race ? this just kills the "normal" qualifying no ? poor Charles , no more starting on the front of the grid for him , also are we expecting risk taking here ? seems like less action on track , as risking a place during a race is important (usually) , while risking it for a place on the grid seems way less attractive.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
April 27 2021 18:09 GMT
#990
On April 28 2021 02:52 bluzi wrote:
Can anyone TLDR this , why would I want to organize the grid for the race , by doing another race ? this just kills the "normal" qualifying no ? poor Charles , no more starting on the front of the grid for him , also are we expecting risk taking here ? seems like less action on track , as risking a place during a race is important (usually) , while risking it for a place on the grid seems way less attractive.

The structure is as follows:

Friday: 1 practice and normal qualifying Q1, Q2, and Q3 that sets grid for Saturday sprint race. The only tires available for qualifying are softs now, no mediums
Saturday: a practice session along with a 100km (so about 1/3 length) sprint race to set grid for Sunday.
Sunday: the normal race.

I can't honestly give you a reason why they want to do this. I don't know if they've ever given a reason why other than "it's new and shiny, therefore we want to do it". The teams have accepted this likely because they have been given a financial incentive to participate. I can't see why they would have otherwise. They're just risking parts for a race that only pays a small amount of points and is much less reliable than normal qualifying for grid positioning.

It seems like the F1 people feel the need to change things up despite, if I remember right, their own polling suggested qualifying was quite popular as it was. Liberty seems so set on constantly changing things rather than waiting and seeing if their previous changes have worked at all. It's just silly.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
April 27 2021 18:28 GMT
#991
The reason is that they want action on all 3 days of a race weekend. Right now, there's very little advantage for a weekend pass vs raceday pass. This also reflects in viewership numbers where Sunday eclipses friday/Saturday by gigantic margins.

You'd have qualifying on Friday, sprint race Saturday and race Sunday. There's action throughout the weekend besides practices which should increase viewership. In other series, similar formats nearly doubles numbers compared to normal f1 schedules
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
April 27 2021 18:33 GMT
#992
It’s weird because I think they think it’s better for spectatorship, which it probably was when they were talking about doing reverse grid sprint races for qualifying, but then they took out the reverse grid part which was what made it exciting.

The changes might still be interesting strategically. If I understand the parc ferme changes correctly I think they’ll have a lot more freedom to have a different setup for qualifying and race conditions? But it seems like the sprint races would be even more prone to being parades with no overtaking than the normal race, no? I haven’t read the detailed changes too closely so maybe I’m missing something.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-27 19:51:03
April 27 2021 19:48 GMT
#993
On April 28 2021 03:33 ChristianS wrote:But it seems like the sprint races would be even more prone to being parades with no overtaking than the normal race, no? I haven’t read the detailed changes too closely so maybe I’m missing something.

Yeah my concern is that teams will want to emphasize not taking risks during the sprint race since they'd risk their starting position for the actual race that gives points. The only positions in the sprint race that provide points are first, second, and third, which give 3, 2 and 1 point respectively.

I'm keeping an open mind about this thing. There are a lot of questions they need to answer about how it's going to work though.

I guess one other thing to keep in mind is that this sprint race stuff will only be at 3 races this year, and they've indicated that, if they choose to continue with it in the future, it will also only be at certain races that are big events like Monza or Silverstone.
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Peplum
Profile Joined February 2021
2 Posts
April 27 2021 21:58 GMT
#994
At least in Monza's case, hopefully it helps with that whole messy traffic issue somehow by changing the mentality???
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
May 01 2021 21:04 GMT
#995
Kinda dull qualifying today. The wind took away any tension in Q3 because everyone's times jumped up by half a second or more. Good to see Vettel in Q3 again. Danny Ric had a bad day and it was easy to tell he was upset with himself over it. Verstappen has to be kicking himself over that mistake since he would have been on pole. Ferrari are starting to look decent again as are Alpine. Ocon beat Alonso pretty handily this time around.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-02 15:55:46
May 02 2021 15:47 GMT
#996
Well that was one boring one.

And ending with another round of track limit bullshittery where they've told the teams "We won't be checking track limits on these turns", and then removing Verstappen's fastest lap for going outside on one of those turns. These rules needs to change. Just check track limits on every turn, always. Stop with this bullshit of "not checking some turns unless we change our minds halfway through the race, so we can randomly to punish some people at random times"
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
May 02 2021 15:58 GMT
#997
Maybe that will happen when the FIA have the same set of stewards for a few races in a row...

The 20th placed driver (19th in the race so far) has annoyed 4 drivers so far. Just 15 more drivers to go. We may be able to see a black flag this season
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-02 17:29:13
May 02 2021 16:42 GMT
#998
Dull race. Not much to say other than okay recovery for Danny Ric and a decent performance for Alpine. Alonso looked slow for the first half but on the second set of tires he massively improved in pace.

In case anyone didn't notice, by the end of the race Mick Schumacher was either about to lap or was in the process of lapping his teammate. Mick had made a gap of over 70 seconds ahead of Mazepin a few laps from the end. That's a pace differential of over a second a lap. What a waste of a seat. People used to dunk on Stroll constantly, but at least he could at least somewhat keep pace with the field. Mazepin is literally putting in 1990s pay driver-level performances. And that's not even getting into his on-track conduct.

And yeah, what can even be said about track limits at this point that hasn't already been said. They need to stop with the inconsistency. Either police all the turns the same or don't at all. Don't suddenly start policing track limits half way through the race.

edit: Just realized Spain's the next race. Great. Fantastic.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
May 02 2021 18:05 GMT
#999
On May 03 2021 01:42 Ben... wrote:
edit: Just realized Spain's the next race. Great. Fantastic.



Look at the bright side. It is Monaco 2 weeks after Barcelona. Once we are done with Monaco, we go to Baku
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-02 18:41:05
May 02 2021 18:40 GMT
#1000
On May 03 2021 01:42 Ben... wrote:
And that's not even getting into his on-track conduct.


Or worse: His conduct off the track

On May 03 2021 03:05 LennX wrote:
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On May 03 2021 01:42 Ben... wrote:
edit: Just realized Spain's the next race. Great. Fantastic.



Look at the bright side. It is Monaco 2 weeks after Barcelona. Once we are done with Monaco, we go to Baku


I might just tune out of F1 for the next month then
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