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On September 22 2019 22:56 sneirac wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2019 22:54 Excludos wrote:
Who are all these people voting Vettel for Driver of the day? He's literally done nothing except be handed the position and victory. to be fair, is there anyone that stood out as really good today? I'd probably pick Gio for leading for a while
No I guess not. Norris maybe? He's being overshadow for consistently being in no-mans land, but he's much quicker than the rest of the midfield. Then again, maybe it's just the fanboy in me.
edit: I guess that remains to be seen between him and Gasly
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Well tbf Gasly did a fantastic job after second restart
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On September 22 2019 23:04 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Well tbf Gasly did a fantastic job after second restart
Agreed, Gasly has done very well this race. He's undoubtedly much more comfortable in the Toro Rosso
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This K Mag fastest lap haha
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Well either way a vote for Vettel certainly feels like the patronizing, "yay you didn't fuck up and did good!".
Also LeClerc will not be happy about this, lol
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lol
well, quite a dick move from Fers on Lecrlerc, but in line with their defending Seb as no.1
Very unusual to see Mercless podium
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On September 22 2019 23:15 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
lol
well, quite a dick move from Fers on Lecrlerc, but in line with their defending Seb as no.1
Very unusual to see Mercless podium
I wonder when was the last time that happened? Must be years?
edit: Hungary 2015? Or am I missing one?
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Austria when they both crashed out, 17 or 18 not sure
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Leclerc was in full crybaby mode for the entire race. He is acting like Vettel and his team should just let him win.
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On September 22 2019 23:22 Pr0wler wrote:
Leclerc was in full crybaby mode for the entire race. He is acting like Vettel and his team should just let him win.
disagree. Crybaby mode would have been if he would be asking team to swap positions with Seb. He was somply letting them know he knows what happened and its not cool with him. Don’t overreact. Seb himself didnt do anything to gain that lead.
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Constantly crying on the radio is not crybaby mode. Ok. Vettel entered the pit earlier. So actually he did something.
Should I remind you how Leclrec achieved his first win and what part Vettel played in that. Maybe he should watch the tape from that race again... I never expected Vettel to be the better team player, but I guess everything is possible.
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On September 22 2019 23:22 Pr0wler wrote:
Leclerc was in full crybaby mode for the entire race. He is acting like Vettel and his team should just let him win.
He consistently said "I'm going to keep my head down and do the right thing, I just want you to know how unhappy I am".
That's not really crybaby mode. And he had all the rights in the world to be pissed off after being fucked over like that.
On September 22 2019 23:31 Pr0wler wrote:
Constantly crying on the radio is not crybaby mode. Ok. Vettel entered the pit earlier. So actually he did something.
When you pit is not the driver's decision. not sure why you'd think Vettel or Leclerc had anything to do with when they pitted. it was a Ferrari strategy call, and after being quickest all weekend long, they placed him in second. That's pretty brutal to be fair.
On September 22 2019 23:31 Pr0wler wrote:
Should I remind you how Leclrec achieved his first win and what part Vettel played in that. Maybe he should watch the tape from that race again... I never expected Vettel to be the better team player, but I guess everything is possible.
Yes, do remind us. What did Vettel do in that race that handed Leclerc the victory?
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On September 22 2019 23:32 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2019 23:31 Pr0wler wrote:
Should I remind you how Leclrec achieved his first win and what part Vettel played in that. Maybe he should watch the tape from that race again... I never expected Vettel to be the better team player, but I guess everything is possible. Yes, do remind us. What did Vettel do in that race that handed Leclerc the victory?
Well, please watch the tape then. He didn't enter the pit in time and forced Hamilton to lose seconds behind him, while at the same time destroyed his own race. Hamilton had clearly the faster car, but didn't have time to overtake.
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On September 22 2019 23:41 Pr0wler wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2019 23:32 Excludos wrote:On September 22 2019 23:31 Pr0wler wrote:
Should I remind you how Leclrec achieved his first win and what part Vettel played in that. Maybe he should watch the tape from that race again... I never expected Vettel to be the better team player, but I guess everything is possible. Yes, do remind us. What did Vettel do in that race that handed Leclerc the victory? Well, please watch the tape then. He didn't enter the pit in time and forced Hamilton to lose seconds behind him, while at the same time destroyed his own race. Hamilton had clearly the faster car, but didn't have time to overtake.
A: I don't want to repeat myself, but again: The drivers do not choose when they get to pit. They are told. Vettel had nothing to do with that decision.
B: That was Ferrari fucking over their own race with bad strategy calls. Mercedes wasn't quicker, they just had a much better strategy.
C: Don't tell people to "watch the tapes". I watch it live every weekend. I asked you to remind us because I knew you'd get it wrong.
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Mecedess on mediums were clearly faster than Ferrari on Spa and Hamilton was faster than Leclerc at the end of that race. You know that there are multiple ways in which you can drive a slow car, right ? Vettel's job was not just to not enter pits, but to also keep Hamilton behind him as much as possible with old tyres. Also I didn't hear Vetter whining on the radio, while doing it.
e: I guess you need to watch it afterall
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i guess we redefined the terms "whining for 2 hours", "destroying his own race" and "pit stop strategy" in this thread.
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On September 22 2019 23:51 Pr0wler wrote:
Mecedess on mediums were clearly faster than Ferrari on Spa and Hamilton was faster than Leclerc at the end of that race. You know that there are multiple ways in which you can drive a slow car, right ? Vettel's job was not just to not enter pits, but to also keep Hamilton behind him as much as possible with old tyres. Also I didn't hear Vetter whining on the radio, while doing it.
e: I guess you need to watch it afterall
So Leclerc being faster than Vettel, and then Vettel and Leclerc being put on a bad strategy that requires Vettel to give up 2 positions is now akin to Leclerc being faster than Vettel, and Vettel being handed the position? Come on, this is just ridiculous now. Also Vettel complained plenty. He called out the bad strategy as it happened, and told them Hamilton would walk all over him, which they did. Are you watching the same sport as the rest of us?
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No, the situations are completely different. I'm not sure why are you comparing them, because I'm not.
Are we sure that Ferrari finishes at 1-2,if Vettel entered the pit after Leclerc ? Because I'm not. I think that it was pretty sound strategy, that granted them a double win.
At Spa, Vettel called out the strategy, because it was bad. Here Leclerc's jimmies are rustled, because his team decided, that his teammate should be in front of him. Quite different.
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On September 23 2019 00:23 Pr0wler wrote:
No, the situations are completely different. I'm not sure why are you comparing them, because I'm not.
On September 22 2019 23:31 Pr0wler wrote:
Constantly crying on the radio is not crybaby mode. Ok. Vettel entered the pit earlier. So actually he did something.
Should I remind you how Leclrec achieved his first win and what part Vettel played in that. Maybe he should watch the tape from that race again... I never expected Vettel to be the better team player, but I guess everything is possible.
I think we're done here.
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On September 23 2019 00:33 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2019 00:23 Pr0wler wrote:
No, the situations are completely different. I'm not sure why are you comparing them, because I'm not. Show nested quote +On September 22 2019 23:31 Pr0wler wrote:
Constantly crying on the radio is not crybaby mode. Ok. Vettel entered the pit earlier. So actually he did something.
Should I remind you how Leclrec achieved his first win and what part Vettel played in that. Maybe he should watch the tape from that race again... I never expected Vettel to be the better team player, but I guess everything is possible. I think we're done here.
I fail to see where I made the comparisson... I think I'm done, too.
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