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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8711 Posts
August 03 2017 11:32 GMT
#121
all this shitstorm over a football player transferring clubs...
one neymar is enough to fund a highrise building development
oh how football has changed
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 11:35:51
August 03 2017 11:34 GMT
#122
I don't think Barça wants to be helped by la Liga in this case. They already gave up, now having him return to the team would be even worse that what happened. Stupid Tebas making a fool of himself once again. What if it was Real Madrid pulling the strings? La Liga doesn't accept the money until the very last minute, Barça can't buy anyone, gg.

I mean Tebas is pro-Madrid, everyone knows that. That's not too far fetched xD
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 03 2017 11:43 GMT
#123
On August 03 2017 20:21 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah Chelsea are not like that. City might have been paid by their owners self sponsoering them which is supposedly against the rules but again UEFA don't really care. FFP hasn't been followed properly, when they finally said to Man City your not following, all they did is fined them money and made them instead of have a 23 man Champions league only allowed to register 18 players lol

Chelsea are exactly like that.

Corrupted businessman buys oil companies for peanuts in Russia and makes billions.
King owns oil and makes billions.

Spend money on football a club, where is the difference????
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 03 2017 11:55 GMT
#124
Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making.
The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18476 Posts
August 03 2017 11:58 GMT
#125
On August 03 2017 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making.
The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol


How did Chelsea buy all those players early 2000s then?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 03 2017 11:59 GMT
#126


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
August 03 2017 12:00 GMT
#127
Qatar also sponsored Barcelona for a while, I mean, they're trying to promote their country and invest in sports. That's why they bought Paris, a TV channel, etc... Now I agree that the amounts for the sponsoring were too high for a club of PSG's standings, but now with Neymar, there's no real discussion. He's a sponsor magnet x) Plus they're starting to be a solid top 5-8 in Europe, the sponsoring deals make a lot more sense now.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 12:02:34
August 03 2017 12:00 GMT
#128
On August 03 2017 20:58 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making.
The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol


How did Chelsea buy all those players early 2000s then?


FFP rules didn't exist in the 2000s.

E`:

On August 03 2017 21:00 WillyWanker wrote:
Qatar also sponsored Barcelona for a while, I mean, they're trying to promote their country and invest in sports. That's why they bought Paris, a TV channel, etc... Now I agree that the amounts for the sponsoring were too high for a club of PSG's standings, but now with Neymar, there's no real discussion. He's a sponsor magnet x) Plus they're starting to be a solid top 5-8 in Europe, the sponsoring deals make a lot more sense now.

If Qatar was just sponsoring PSG there would be no problem at all, the problem is solely if they sidestep rules about sponsoring and just give Neymar 500m to buy out his own contract.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 12:12:16
August 03 2017 12:04 GMT
#129
On August 03 2017 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making.
The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol

The way I see it that is just a bunch of formalities but in the end it is pretty much the same. Oil billionaires spending on their vanity projects.

I dont think it is a bad thing btw. Sucks that those people got super rich by questionable means, but it is a good thing if they spend that money, especially if they do it in Europe (from a European pov).
Off-season = best season
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 03 2017 12:15 GMT
#130
On August 03 2017 21:04 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making.
The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol

The way I see it that is just a bunch of formalities but in the end it is pretty much the same. Oil billionaires spending on their vanity projects.

I dont think it is a bad thing btw. Sucks that those people got super rich by questionable means, but it is a good thing if they spend that money, especially when they do it in Europe (from a European pov).

From a football fan perspective, football is in a bad state imo. It would be so much better if the best players were playing in different teams and if CL games were interesting before the round of 8 or more than two clubs had a shot to be champion in a given championship.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 03 2017 12:25 GMT
#131
On August 03 2017 21:15 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 21:04 Redox wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making.
The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol

The way I see it that is just a bunch of formalities but in the end it is pretty much the same. Oil billionaires spending on their vanity projects.

I dont think it is a bad thing btw. Sucks that those people got super rich by questionable means, but it is a good thing if they spend that money, especially when they do it in Europe (from a European pov).

From a football fan perspective, football is in a bad state imo. It would be so much better if the best players were playing in different teams and if CL games were interesting before the round of 8 or more than two clubs had a shot to be champion in a given championship.

That uneven distribution has always existed though. Different clubs always have different resources. Bayern in the Bundesliga and Real/Barca in Spain are totally dominating and it is not because of outside investment. And the EPL which has the most outside investment is actually the most even league at the top.
Off-season = best season
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 03 2017 12:32 GMT
#132
On August 03 2017 21:25 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 21:15 nojok wrote:
On August 03 2017 21:04 Redox wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making.
The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol

The way I see it that is just a bunch of formalities but in the end it is pretty much the same. Oil billionaires spending on their vanity projects.

I dont think it is a bad thing btw. Sucks that those people got super rich by questionable means, but it is a good thing if they spend that money, especially when they do it in Europe (from a European pov).

From a football fan perspective, football is in a bad state imo. It would be so much better if the best players were playing in different teams and if CL games were interesting before the round of 8 or more than two clubs had a shot to be champion in a given championship.

That uneven distribution has always existed though. Different clubs always have different resources. Bayern in the Bundesliga and Real/Barca in Spain are totally dominating and it is not because of outside investment. And the EPL which has the most outside investment is actually the most even league at the top.

TV rights distribution in Spain is insane, 60% for Real and Barca, 40% for the other 18 teams but I believe it changed recently while Chelsea barely won more than the last team.

Champion's league money should also be distributed more evenly.

The thing is that football is normally a high variance sport and that even the best team should not win that often. It's no longer the case given the huge asymetry between the top teams and the rest. I believe a small drop of the quality of top teams could be enough to make everything more interesting and let variance do its work.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
August 03 2017 13:19 GMT
#133
What a pointless gesture by La Liga. This is exactly what Athletic Bilbao did when Bayern tried to pay Javi Martinez's buyout clause.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 13:46:49
August 03 2017 13:42 GMT
#134
Pretty sure Chelsea in the 2000s would have fallen foul of FFP in some way. Now they're kinda self sufficient though. You could say it's not genuinely or organically grown, but I think you should give Chelsea credit for not depending on Roman's pockets forever. PSG/Man City though are still using their owner's money after so long, and don't seem to be changing anytime soon.

On the case though, from the laymen perspective I think la liga has no case. It is not up to them to decide if the cash PSG has raised is against FFP or not. As long as the cash is real, then they have no reason to reject despite the high quantum. It's a willing buyer capable of meeting the selling price. Uefa/FIFA would be the one who decides if and how PSG should be punished.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 03 2017 14:38 GMT
#135
On August 03 2017 22:19 city42 wrote:
What a pointless gesture by La Liga. This is exactly what Athletic Bilbao did when Bayern tried to pay Javi Martinez's buyout clause.

Pretty sure it's different. La Liga accepted the money from Bayern to pay the buyout clause.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
August 03 2017 14:41 GMT
#136
Neymar should just endorse the $220M buy-out check from Qatar/PSG and make it "Payable to La Liga" and tape it to the front door of their offices.

Post a pic of it like Floyd Maywether does with his PPV checks.

Then it's on Barcelona to beg La Liga to cash it for them.

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 14:43:39
August 03 2017 14:41 GMT
#137
On August 03 2017 21:00 WillyWanker wrote:
Qatar also sponsored Barcelona for a while, I mean, they're trying to promote their country and invest in sports. That's why they bought Paris, a TV channel, etc... Now I agree that the amounts for the sponsoring were too high for a club of PSG's standings, but now with Neymar, there's no real discussion. He's a sponsor magnet x) Plus they're starting to be a solid top 5-8 in Europe, the sponsoring deals make a lot more sense now.

Yes and now before all this drama Barcelona refused to sign an extension with Qatar for the sponsorship so another interesting fact, especially with rumours saying Neymar is going to be given a huge self sponsorship by Qatar to be the face of the 2022 world cup over there. Next minute he is in PSG shirt who the rich Qatari's own :D

Anyway, all in all we should be agreeing that what La Liga doing right now is hurting, Barcelona more than anyone else. PSG are going to get Neymar, however Barcelona want their money so they can re invest it.


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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 03 2017 15:03 GMT
#138
La Liga executives look like retards but I can guarantee you ours are not better. In fact I'm almost hoping for a war of words between the two so we can all have a good laugh.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8711 Posts
August 03 2017 15:22 GMT
#139
well la liga representatives must have some sort of legal basis or information we dont know which justifies them doing this. you dont do this unless you know you actually have a legitimate chance for what you want to be upheld. the only other possibility is that la liga is just filled with a bunch of non-educated mentally handicapped idiots who are just having a hissy fit....and despite all the stupid things theyve done before i find it hard to believe theyre this stupid
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 03 2017 15:32 GMT
#140
On August 04 2017 00:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
well la liga representatives must have some sort of legal basis or information we dont know which justifies them doing this. you dont do this unless you know you actually have a legitimate chance for what you want to be upheld. the only other possibility is that la liga is just filled with a bunch of non-educated mentally handicapped idiots who are just having a hissy fit....and despite all the stupid things theyve done before i find it hard to believe theyre this stupid

I like the conspiracy theory nojok mentioned that this is just a Real ploy to keep Barca from replacing Neymar this window.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
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