EPTone neymar is enough to fund a highrise building development
oh how football has changed
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8929 Posts
one neymar is enough to fund a highrise building development oh how football has changed | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
I mean Tebas is pro-Madrid, everyone knows that. That's not too far fetched xD | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On August 03 2017 20:21 Pandemona wrote: Yeah Chelsea are not like that. City might have been paid by their owners self sponsoering them which is supposedly against the rules but again UEFA don't really care. FFP hasn't been followed properly, when they finally said to Man City your not following, all they did is fined them money and made them instead of have a 23 man Champions league only allowed to register 18 players lol Chelsea are exactly like that. Corrupted businessman buys oil companies for peanuts in Russia and makes billions. King owns oil and makes billions. Spend money on football a club, where is the difference???? | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol | ||
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sharkie
Austria18761 Posts
On August 03 2017 20:55 Pandemona wrote: Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making. The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol How did Chelsea buy all those players early 2000s then? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On August 03 2017 20:58 sharkie wrote: How did Chelsea buy all those players early 2000s then? FFP rules didn't exist in the 2000s. E`: On August 03 2017 21:00 WillyWanker wrote: Qatar also sponsored Barcelona for a while, I mean, they're trying to promote their country and invest in sports. That's why they bought Paris, a TV channel, etc... Now I agree that the amounts for the sponsoring were too high for a club of PSG's standings, but now with Neymar, there's no real discussion. He's a sponsor magnet x) Plus they're starting to be a solid top 5-8 in Europe, the sponsoring deals make a lot more sense now. If Qatar was just sponsoring PSG there would be no problem at all, the problem is solely if they sidestep rules about sponsoring and just give Neymar 500m to buy out his own contract. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 03 2017 20:55 Pandemona wrote: Your missing the point. The difference is with the FFP requirements. We are not sponsored by Roman Abramovich in our shirts, some part deal anywhere. PSG and Man City are thats the point im making. The other point being issued here is how abusive of the system it might be if the PSG owners give Neymar £220 million to buy himself out of his contract and PSG negate all FFP rulings or whatever lol The way I see it that is just a bunch of formalities but in the end it is pretty much the same. Oil billionaires spending on their vanity projects. I dont think it is a bad thing btw. Sucks that those people got super rich by questionable means, but it is a good thing if they spend that money, especially if they do it in Europe (from a European pov). | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On August 03 2017 21:04 Redox wrote: The way I see it that is just a bunch of formalities but in the end it is pretty much the same. Oil billionaires spending on their vanity projects. I dont think it is a bad thing btw. Sucks that those people got super rich by questionable means, but it is a good thing if they spend that money, especially when they do it in Europe (from a European pov). From a football fan perspective, football is in a bad state imo. It would be so much better if the best players were playing in different teams and if CL games were interesting before the round of 8 or more than two clubs had a shot to be champion in a given championship. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 03 2017 21:15 nojok wrote: From a football fan perspective, football is in a bad state imo. It would be so much better if the best players were playing in different teams and if CL games were interesting before the round of 8 or more than two clubs had a shot to be champion in a given championship. That uneven distribution has always existed though. Different clubs always have different resources. Bayern in the Bundesliga and Real/Barca in Spain are totally dominating and it is not because of outside investment. And the EPL which has the most outside investment is actually the most even league at the top. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On August 03 2017 21:25 Redox wrote: That uneven distribution has always existed though. Different clubs always have different resources. Bayern in the Bundesliga and Real/Barca in Spain are totally dominating and it is not because of outside investment. And the EPL which has the most outside investment is actually the most even league at the top. TV rights distribution in Spain is insane, 60% for Real and Barca, 40% for the other 18 teams but I believe it changed recently while Chelsea barely won more than the last team. Champion's league money should also be distributed more evenly. The thing is that football is normally a high variance sport and that even the best team should not win that often. It's no longer the case given the huge asymetry between the top teams and the rest. I believe a small drop of the quality of top teams could be enough to make everything more interesting and let variance do its work. | ||
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city42
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On the case though, from the laymen perspective I think la liga has no case. It is not up to them to decide if the cash PSG has raised is against FFP or not. As long as the cash is real, then they have no reason to reject despite the high quantum. It's a willing buyer capable of meeting the selling price. Uefa/FIFA would be the one who decides if and how PSG should be punished. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On August 03 2017 22:19 city42 wrote: What a pointless gesture by La Liga. This is exactly what Athletic Bilbao did when Bayern tried to pay Javi Martinez's buyout clause. Pretty sure it's different. La Liga accepted the money from Bayern to pay the buyout clause. | ||
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RCMDVA
United States708 Posts
Post a pic of it like Floyd Maywether does with his PPV checks. Then it's on Barcelona to beg La Liga to cash it for them. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On August 03 2017 21:00 WillyWanker wrote: Qatar also sponsored Barcelona for a while, I mean, they're trying to promote their country and invest in sports. That's why they bought Paris, a TV channel, etc... Now I agree that the amounts for the sponsoring were too high for a club of PSG's standings, but now with Neymar, there's no real discussion. He's a sponsor magnet x) Plus they're starting to be a solid top 5-8 in Europe, the sponsoring deals make a lot more sense now. Yes and now before all this drama Barcelona refused to sign an extension with Qatar for the sponsorship so another interesting fact, especially with rumours saying Neymar is going to be given a huge self sponsorship by Qatar to be the face of the 2022 world cup over there. Next minute he is in PSG shirt who the rich Qatari's own :D Anyway, all in all we should be agreeing that what La Liga doing right now is hurting, Barcelona more than anyone else. PSG are going to get Neymar, however Barcelona want their money so they can re invest it. Oh Ligue 1 replied to La Liga with a statement + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGT4E6nVwAAOs7S.jpg:large) | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8929 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On August 04 2017 00:22 evilfatsh1t wrote: well la liga representatives must have some sort of legal basis or information we dont know which justifies them doing this. you dont do this unless you know you actually have a legitimate chance for what you want to be upheld. the only other possibility is that la liga is just filled with a bunch of non-educated mentally handicapped idiots who are just having a hissy fit....and despite all the stupid things theyve done before i find it hard to believe theyre this stupid I like the conspiracy theory nojok mentioned that this is just a Real ploy to keep Barca from replacing Neymar this window. | ||
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