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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18563 Posts
August 03 2017 04:01 GMT
#101
On August 03 2017 05:22 nayumi wrote:
I understand that he wants to surpass Messi and Ronaldo. But he chose PSG as the place to do that. I mean lol


No other club can afford to buy him off barca
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 03 2017 04:15 GMT
#102
On August 03 2017 13:01 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 05:22 nayumi wrote:
I understand that he wants to surpass Messi and Ronaldo. But he chose PSG as the place to do that. I mean lol


No other club can afford to buy him off barca


German clubs maybe, Man City? Obviously not Madrid as they are set and Barca would publicly crucify him
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 08:13:40
August 03 2017 08:12 GMT
#103
According to l'equpe, Mbappe wants to leave Monaco.

Gotta feel for Monaco fans..
Bernardo Silva, Bakayoko, soon Lemar
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
August 03 2017 08:50 GMT
#104
On August 03 2017 13:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 13:01 sharkie wrote:
On August 03 2017 05:22 nayumi wrote:
I understand that he wants to surpass Messi and Ronaldo. But he chose PSG as the place to do that. I mean lol


No other club can afford to buy him off barca


German clubs maybe, Man City? Obviously not Madrid as they are set and Barca would publicly crucify him


German clubs? What are you smoking? You are aware that the German transfer record (to a German team) is at less than 50m? Not even Bayern is interested in spending more.
And we aren't even talking about the wages. Bayern would be the only team who could probably afford Neymar wages, and they certainly would never do it, because it would destroy their entire team wage structure.
Just look at why the Alexis deal fell through, or why Kroos left back then.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
August 03 2017 08:59 GMT
#105
On August 03 2017 13:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 13:01 sharkie wrote:
On August 03 2017 05:22 nayumi wrote:
I understand that he wants to surpass Messi and Ronaldo. But he chose PSG as the place to do that. I mean lol


No other club can afford to buy him off barca


German clubs maybe, Man City? Obviously not Madrid as they are set and Barca would publicly crucify him


No way German clubs could afford Neymar. Other than PSG I think maybe City and Chelsea can afford him. United probably as well but don't think they want to spend this kind of money.

On another note, if you look at the top transfers Ronaldo has got to be the best value in terms of goals per dollar. Basically Neymar would have to score 3 times the number of goals to match Ronaldo's value. Just an interesting way to look at it :D
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
August 03 2017 09:05 GMT
#106
Not if you count inflation... And (sadly) you should count marketing value more than performance.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 03 2017 09:24 GMT
#107
On August 03 2017 17:12 brinepumps wrote:
According to l'equpe, Mbappe wants to leave Monaco.

Gotta feel for Monaco fans..
Bernardo Silva, Bakayoko, soon Lemar

Don't worry, they barely have fans, Monaco is just a fiscal heaven on a 2 sq km rock with 38k people on it.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 10:17:50
August 03 2017 10:14 GMT
#108
???




Edit: Confirmed.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 10:26:08
August 03 2017 10:23 GMT
#109
I hate that they are whining about this so much. Barca and Real get great players from other leagues all the time. Only that they pay way less because just their name has so much pulling power.
Basically what they are whining about is that they get compensated so well for losing a player, it is ridiculous. I am waiting for the day I am bullied by someone trying to give me 200 mio.
Off-season = best season
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
August 03 2017 10:25 GMT
#110
LaLiga is making a joke out of itself...

When the clubs are forced to put those release clauses in all contracts, stop bitching when somebody is really making use of it.
And don't even try to bring the FFP excuse... It is up to the UEFA to enforce this, and yes we know that they wont do it because they suck, but then LaLiga should go after the UEFA... And not go completely rogue here.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 10:47:39
August 03 2017 10:37 GMT
#111
Haha La Liga going to get the book thrown at them from UEFA lol

To add to this, UEFA already said yesterday or before that they will not stand in the way of this transfer. Also FFP will be investigated but they have 12 months from the transfer fee going into their accounts to balance the books. In that space of time they are free to compete in champions league etc etc.

Also watch out for a brand new sponsorship deal for PSG too


Oh and you think La Liga will mind when Real pay £150million plus for Mbappe? Come on La Liga
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
August 03 2017 10:47 GMT
#112
This makes no sense to me. How can La Liga block this? They have nothing to say about contracts and how they're enforced.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18563 Posts
August 03 2017 10:48 GMT
#113
So Barca and Real can go ahead and pay shit stupid money for players but other clubs can't? Way to go La Liga
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 03 2017 10:54 GMT
#114
On August 03 2017 19:48 sharkie wrote:
So Barca and Real can go ahead and pay shit stupid money for players but other clubs can't? Way to go La Liga

If PSG was paying for this it wouldn't be an issue untill FFP filings are due next year. The problem is the Qatar/Neymar business where PSG doesn't pay anything at all and just signs Neymar on a free transfer.
This won't work for LaLiga and it is stupid, because current rules don't prohibit it, but it is not about different standards for Spanish/non spanish teams.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18563 Posts
August 03 2017 10:58 GMT
#115
On August 03 2017 19:54 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 19:48 sharkie wrote:
So Barca and Real can go ahead and pay shit stupid money for players but other clubs can't? Way to go La Liga

If PSG was paying for this it wouldn't be an issue untill FFP filings are due next year. The problem is the Qatar/Neymar business where PSG doesn't pay anything at all and just signs Neymar on a free transfer.
This won't work for LaLiga and it is stupid, because current rules don't prohibit it, but it is not about different standards for Spanish/non spanish teams.


I have heard and read from several places that both Real and Barca are supported by government through money or influence many times. Where is the difference there?
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 03 2017 11:04 GMT
#116
On August 03 2017 19:58 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 19:54 sneirac wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:48 sharkie wrote:
So Barca and Real can go ahead and pay shit stupid money for players but other clubs can't? Way to go La Liga

If PSG was paying for this it wouldn't be an issue untill FFP filings are due next year. The problem is the Qatar/Neymar business where PSG doesn't pay anything at all and just signs Neymar on a free transfer.
This won't work for LaLiga and it is stupid, because current rules don't prohibit it, but it is not about different standards for Spanish/non spanish teams.


I have heard and read from several places that both Real and Barca are supported by government through money or influence many times. Where is the difference there?

Yeah I read that too, see this: www.theguardian.com
However at least in some cases it appears to have been illegal and had to be repaid, so they didn't get away with it and why should Qatar/PSG?
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
August 03 2017 11:11 GMT
#117
The difference is what PSG is doing is legal. Against sports fair-play ? Yes. But not illegal. They won't be punished for that.

Also, apparently they're trying to sign another big name, this time with their own money. Mbappé or Sanchez. And again, they'll respect the FFP. The question is what will the UEFA do to fix the loophole? Forbidding buyout clauses? Because the players are allowed to make money the way they want (as long as they pay taxes ofc), so there's no stopping other clubs doing the same through third party companies.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 03 2017 11:14 GMT
#118
On August 03 2017 20:04 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 19:58 sharkie wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:54 sneirac wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:48 sharkie wrote:
So Barca and Real can go ahead and pay shit stupid money for players but other clubs can't? Way to go La Liga

If PSG was paying for this it wouldn't be an issue untill FFP filings are due next year. The problem is the Qatar/Neymar business where PSG doesn't pay anything at all and just signs Neymar on a free transfer.
This won't work for LaLiga and it is stupid, because current rules don't prohibit it, but it is not about different standards for Spanish/non spanish teams.


I have heard and read from several places that both Real and Barca are supported by government through money or influence many times. Where is the difference there?

Yeah I read that too, see this: www.theguardian.com
However at least in some cases it appears to have been illegal and had to be repaid, so they didn't get away with it and why should Qatar/PSG?

Because everyone got away with it : city, chelsea, milan, monaco, inter, leipzig etc etc
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 11:28:07
August 03 2017 11:16 GMT
#119
On August 03 2017 20:14 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:04 sneirac wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:58 sharkie wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:54 sneirac wrote:
On August 03 2017 19:48 sharkie wrote:
So Barca and Real can go ahead and pay shit stupid money for players but other clubs can't? Way to go La Liga

If PSG was paying for this it wouldn't be an issue untill FFP filings are due next year. The problem is the Qatar/Neymar business where PSG doesn't pay anything at all and just signs Neymar on a free transfer.
This won't work for LaLiga and it is stupid, because current rules don't prohibit it, but it is not about different standards for Spanish/non spanish teams.


I have heard and read from several places that both Real and Barca are supported by government through money or influence many times. Where is the difference there?

Yeah I read that too, see this: www.theguardian.com
However at least in some cases it appears to have been illegal and had to be repaid, so they didn't get away with it and why should Qatar/PSG?

Because everyone got away with it : city, chelsea, milan, monaco, inter, leipzig etc etc

They all had a country pay money directly to a player to buyout his own contract in order to avoid dealing with FFP?

E:
On August 03 2017 20:11 WillyWanker wrote:
The difference is what PSG is doing is legal. Against sports fair-play ? Yes. But not illegal. They won't be punished for that.

Also, apparently they're trying to sign another big name, this time with their own money. Mbappé or Sanchez. And again, they'll respect the FFP. The question is what will the UEFA do to fix the loophole? Forbidding buyout clauses? Because the players are allowed to make money the way they want (as long as they pay taxes ofc), so there's no stopping other clubs doing the same through third party companies.

I agree with this, I think LaLiga has no case, but I think it is okay that they question if this is a legal loophole and if it should be closed if it is.
And since there has never been a situation like this before and it isn't comparable to outside investors giving money to the club/creating stupid sponsorships, there is no double standard.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 03 2017 11:21 GMT
#120
Yeah Chelsea are not like that. City might have been paid by their owners self sponsoering them which is supposedly against the rules but again UEFA don't really care. FFP hasn't been followed properly, when they finally said to Man City your not following, all they did is fined them money and made them instead of have a 23 man Champions league only allowed to register 18 players lol
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